New undetectable immobiliser.

[larrylamb]

I have seen somebody advertising a new canbus immobiliser on FB that is undetectable so even if a thief has stolen your keys he won't be able to start the Cali.

"New product just in. We now have a can bus immobiliser. The interface is impossible to detect once installed. Even if the keys are present the vehicle will not start without a preset sequence of dash or steering control buttons being pressed first. Perfect if your keys are stolen. Can't be beaten by any cloning software.

This is a game changer in the security industry.

Fitted for £349.99 in Skipton."

Sounds interesting if security is your thang.

 

[WelshGas]

Useful when you take your Cali in for service!

 

[larrylamb]

The chap is Peter Preston at Skipton Car Radio, 01756794850. Sounds great in theory, he says the product has been developed by a can bus specialist he deals with, works with T5.

 

[larrylamb]

Useful when you take your Cali in for service!

It has a selectable "valet" mode.

 

[campandfly]

larrylamb


@larrylamb
"I have seen somebody advertising a new canbus immobiliser on FB"

Do you have link please?

 

[larrylamb]

larrylamb


@larrylamb
"I have seen somebody advertising a new canbus immobiliser on FB"

Do you have link please?

No link, i cut and pasted what they were saying in my first post and also posted his contact details above, cheers. I have no links/interest to this person or product btw.

 

[estresao]

Interesting

 

[larrylamb]

If i am allowed to mention it the Facebook forum/group is,
VW T5 FORUM
lots of owners, pics and interesting posts but also a lot of waffle, worth perusing though.

 

[WelshGas]

Personal Opinion. If I lived in Skipton fine, but if some distance away and a fault developed then you would have a problem in getting it fixed unless there was a nationwide fitting/repair service.
The thefts mentioned on the Forum involved theft of keys from the owners house. What is to stop a professional stealing the keys and using the threat of violence to get the unlock code.
Obviously at present the theft of the vehicle has been dependant on the keys, so the vehicle would seem to be fairly resilient to NON key theft already.

 

[snowy55]

The immobiliser/alarm on a Harley Davidson I used to own was armed/disarmed by a sequence of indicator button presses, so that sounds to be similar.

 

[Rob H]

Until recently I thought modern vehicle immobiliser modules interfacing with the ecu were pretty thief proof ...
I'm led to believe Key coding / immobilizer interrogating to allow bypassing, via our vehicles OBD11 port, on the fly, is the growing preferred method of the modern tea leaf, believe this takes about three minutes once forced entry effected and armed with laptop and chinese encoders for sale on e bay.
As well as physical deterents, Additional electronic methods to increase security, that don't raise a fault code, are of interest to me.
Anyone know, which of the sixteen OBD11 port pins (and its wire colour code), connects via the VW immobilizer module > engine ECU ?

Rob H.

 

[estresao]

We could hide the actual OBD11 and install a fake one with 220v in each pin

Seriously, I think "professionals" just mount vans onto a tow truck.

 

[rookeryview]

Someone needs to obtain actual evidence of van thefts, regarding methods used rather than speculating. Do they get lifted onto a lorry, do they get hacked by OBD port, has anyone used violence to get the keys, that sort of thing. All other events can be prevented fairly easily.

 

[benArrayx]

This product sounds awesome to me, however I am pretty concerned about it affecting the warranty, messing about with the CANBUS can't be supported surely?

 

[T6 CFO]

Someone needs to obtain actual evidence of van thefts, regarding methods used rather than speculating. Do they get lifted onto a lorry, do they get hacked by OBD port, has anyone used violence to get the keys, that sort of thing. All other events can be prevented fairly easily.

I agree. Still seems to me that they are getting targeted on driveways then break in for keys. From experience (Nope not a vehicle thief) High value vehicles are also stolen for immediate export by container. Caravans and the like can get similar treatment or are more often moved to a different part of the country and sold 2nd hand after some serial number removal etc.
It therefore depends to a large extent on personal circumstances. So if mine was my 2nd vehicle and I left it on the driveway I would be parking it nose in with steering lock on at the very least. Same applies if you are parking it on the road. If someone can just hitch it up and tow away or onto a low loader it is vulnerable. Mine when I get it is going to be pretty secure in a very tight spot under the flats where I live. They are going to have to be pretty damned good to get in and low loader it away. What I'm trying to say is that everyone has to have a think about how vulnerable there particular vehicle is and take sensible precautions. I don't however believe in letting the risk ruin my life. We pay insurance for a reason.
I have tried my best to get stats on thefts and all I can find is that in general thefts are down for all the obvious reasons. However, high value thefts which includes California's are up. They are being targeted and these people are good. They will though still take the easiest pickings so make yours a bit harder. I.e. At the supermarket by all means stick it somewhere quiet where it's less likely to get scratched but be a bit anal and park it nose in with front wheels angled and steering lock on.
Guy at our gym had high value BMW stolen recently. Followed to the Gym, followed in, broke into his locker and stole keys while he was at Yoga. Guys caught on CCTV but faces covered and vehicle never recovered.
Merry Christmas all