I wonder if this is why the Beach 6.1 is not on sale in the UK

[Lightning]

Carmakers could pull models from the UK, the automotive industry has warned, as the British taste for polluting vehicles clashes with the difficulty of meeting post-Brexit carbon dioxide limits.
Under new EU rules, average carbon dioxide emissions of almost all cars sold in 2020 and 2021 across the single market, including the UK, must fall below 95g per kilometre, with major fines for those carmakers who miss individual targets designed to meet the goal.
That means that the heavier, fuel-guzzling SUVs favoured by Britons are offset by the smaller, less polluting cars preferred in countries such as Italy. After Brexit, when the UK plans to copy EU rules, this will no longer be the case, making a UK-only limit harder to hit.

 

[Lightning]

Carmakers could pull models from the UK, the automotive industry has warned, as the British taste for polluting vehicles clashes with the difficulty of meeting post-Brexit carbon dioxide limits.
Under new EU rules, average carbon dioxide emissions of almost all cars sold in 2020 and 2021 across the single market, including the UK, must fall below 95g per kilometre, with major fines for those carmakers who miss individual targets designed to meet the goal.
That means that the heavier, fuel-guzzling SUVs favoured by Britons are offset by the smaller, less polluting cars preferred in countries such as Italy. After Brexit, when the UK plans to copy EU rules, this will no longer be the case, making a UK-only limit harder to hit.

The title was meant to be ‘I wonder if this is why the Beach 6.1 is not on sale in the UK’

 

[Loz]

If you were a VIP member you would have the ability to edit it...

 

[soulstyledevon]

How will under EU rules affect a country that’s no longer part of the EU...?
Surely the new British, two finger rule applies.

 

[Lightning]

How will under EU rules affect a country that’s no longer part of the EU...?
Surely the new British, two finger rule applies.

Here is the rest of the article. The UK plans to copy EU rules.
Carmakers could pull models from the UK, the automotive industry has warned, as the British taste for polluting vehicles clashes with the difficulty of meeting post-Brexit carbon dioxide limits.
Under new EU rules, average carbon dioxide emissions of almost all cars sold in 2020 and 2021 across the single market, including the UK, must fall below 95g per kilometre, with major fines for those carmakers who miss individual targets designed to meet the goal.
That means that the heavier, fuel-guzzling SUVs favoured by Britons are offset by the smaller, less polluting cars preferred in countries such as Italy. After Brexit, when the UK plans to copy EU rules, this will no longer be the case, making a UK-only limit harder to hit.
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Mike Hawes, chief executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), the car industry lobby group, said: “[Carmakers] will have to look at their model mix […] you’ve got to see whether that’s economic. The fines are going to be severe and all of them will do everything they can to avoid that.
“It could be that you see a reduction in consumer choice through the removal of higher-emitting vehicles from not just the top end, but particular segments.”
While having to pull models from sale would be a blow to the car industry, the rules could prove to be environmentally effective if they reduce car sales of the most polluting models. Cars account for just over 18% of UK emissions, according to government figures, and action in the transport sector is seen as crucial to cutting emissions to 51% of 1990 levels by 2025 and to reach net zero by 2050.
Carbon dioxide emissions of cars sold to British consumers rose for the third year in a row in 2019, underlining the scale of the challenge for the industry as it tries to meet the new EU limits.
However, the prospect of an imminent Brexit at the end of January will force carmakers to make choices before the end of 2020, when the implementation period is scheduled to end and the UK-only limits kick in. That could include choosing to sell electric cars in the EU rather than the UK if they judge Europe to be a more important market.
Volkswagen to hit 1m electric cars milestone two years early
Carmakers are rushing to bring to market new electric cars with zero tailpipe emissions – including Volkswagen’s ID.3, Vauxhall’s Corsa-e and an electric Fiat 500this year – but production will initially be limited as factories gear up. At the same time, they are keen to hang on to their profitable but polluting sales of internal combustion engines.

 

[soulstyledevon]

That won’t happen...

Personally, I hope it does.
I hate SUVs. Really don’t see the point of them. Smaller inside, less economical and don’t perform as well as a decent estate car.

 

[Bellcrew]

Here is the rest of the article. The UK plans to copy EU rules.
Carmakers could pull models from the UK, the automotive industry has warned, as the British taste for polluting vehicles clashes with the difficulty of meeting post-Brexit carbon dioxide limits.
Under new EU rules, average carbon dioxide emissions of almost all cars sold in 2020 and 2021 across the single market, including the UK, must fall below 95g per kilometre, with major fines for those carmakers who miss individual targets designed to meet the goal.
That means that the heavier, fuel-guzzling SUVs favoured by Britons are offset by the smaller, less polluting cars preferred in countries such as Italy. After Brexit, when the UK plans to copy EU rules, this will no longer be the case, making a UK-only limit harder to hit.
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Mike Hawes, chief executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), the car industry lobby group, said: “[Carmakers] will have to look at their model mix […] you’ve got to see whether that’s economic. The fines are going to be severe and all of them will do everything they can to avoid that.
“It could be that you see a reduction in consumer choice through the removal of higher-emitting vehicles from not just the top end, but particular segments.”
While having to pull models from sale would be a blow to the car industry, the rules could prove to be environmentally effective if they reduce car sales of the most polluting models. Cars account for just over 18% of UK emissions, according to government figures, and action in the transport sector is seen as crucial to cutting emissions to 51% of 1990 levels by 2025 and to reach net zero by 2050.
Carbon dioxide emissions of cars sold to British consumers rose for the third year in a row in 2019, underlining the scale of the challenge for the industry as it tries to meet the new EU limits.
However, the prospect of an imminent Brexit at the end of January will force carmakers to make choices before the end of 2020, when the implementation period is scheduled to end and the UK-only limits kick in. That could include choosing to sell electric cars in the EU rather than the UK if they judge Europe to be a more important market.
Volkswagen to hit 1m electric cars milestone two years early
Carmakers are rushing to bring to market new electric cars with zero tailpipe emissions – including Volkswagen’s ID.3, Vauxhall’s Corsa-e and an electric Fiat 500this year – but production will initially be limited as factories gear up. At the same time, they are keen to hang on to their profitable but polluting sales of internal combustion engines.

Car makers cannot make anyone buy their vehicles, if they appeal to the market then they will sell otherwise they will go to the wall. Second hand reliable cars will increase in value and if the manufactures want to hold vehicles from the UK market I am sure the rest of the world will fill the void.

 

[MattBW]

It doesnt really make sense, otherwise they would stop the ocean as well by the logic in that article? Or maybe cutting the range is a way of reducing the "fines"?

I suspect its probably more likely they just dont sell as many as they would like.

 

[Ocean Spirit]

So in a nut shell.....
British limits will be more stringent ruling out the imports from abroad or manufacturers start making cars to suit UK limits?

Yeah ok.....
We'll be roughly in lne with everyone else. A bit behind here a bit ahead there maybe but no significant 'out of step' changes.

 

[toeknee]

So in a nut shell.....
British limits will be more stringent ruling out the imports from abroad or manufacturers start making cars to suit UK limits?

Yeah ok.....
We'll be roughly in lne with everyone else. A bit behind here a bit ahead there maybe but no significant 'out of step' changes.

Not really. There is one limit across the EU. It some countries use up less of that limit and some more. If we match EU limits post Brexit then we will be breaking them since right now countries like Italy offset our taste for SUVs with their little Fiats.

 

[Perfectos]

It doesnt really make sense, otherwise they would stop the ocean as well by the logic in that article? Or maybe cutting the range is a way of reducing the "fines"?

I suspect its probably more likely they just dont sell as many as they would like.

I would suspect it comes down to profit margins, and streamlining manufacturing process, and simplifying the U.K. spec possibilities and build set up at the factory, the CaliO commands a higher ticket price and achieves good sales in the U.K. market.
I suspect VW will see how the new beach sells through Europe and if the demand in the U.K. for beach configuration affects sales of CaliO before offering the beach in UK format.
If the beach is truly discontinued in the U.K. the Beach will become a sought after classic that will command a premium in the second hand market.

 

[PeterS]

Here is the rest of the article. The UK plans to copy EU rules.
Carmakers could pull models from the UK, the automotive industry has warned, as the British taste for polluting vehicles clashes with the difficulty of meeting post-Brexit carbon dioxide limits.
Under new EU rules, average carbon dioxide emissions of almost all cars sold in 2020 and 2021 across the single market, including the UK, must fall below 95g per kilometre, with major fines for those carmakers who miss individual targets designed to meet the goal.
That means that the heavier, fuel-guzzling SUVs favoured by Britons are offset by the smaller, less polluting cars preferred in countries such as Italy. After Brexit, when the UK plans to copy EU rules, this will no longer be the case, making a UK-only limit harder to hit.
AdvertisementHide

Mike Hawes, chief executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), the car industry lobby group, said: “[Carmakers] will have to look at their model mix […] you’ve got to see whether that’s economic. The fines are going to be severe and all of them will do everything they can to avoid that.
“It could be that you see a reduction in consumer choice through the removal of higher-emitting vehicles from not just the top end, but particular segments.”
While having to pull models from sale would be a blow to the car industry, the rules could prove to be environmentally effective if they reduce car sales of the most polluting models. Cars account for just over 18% of UK emissions, according to government figures, and action in the transport sector is seen as crucial to cutting emissions to 51% of 1990 levels by 2025 and to reach net zero by 2050.
Carbon dioxide emissions of cars sold to British consumers rose for the third year in a row in 2019, underlining the scale of the challenge for the industry as it tries to meet the new EU limits.
However, the prospect of an imminent Brexit at the end of January will force carmakers to make choices before the end of 2020, when the implementation period is scheduled to end and the UK-only limits kick in. That could include choosing to sell electric cars in the EU rather than the UK if they judge Europe to be a more important market.
Volkswagen to hit 1m electric cars milestone two years early
Carmakers are rushing to bring to market new electric cars with zero tailpipe emissions – including Volkswagen’s ID.3, Vauxhall’s Corsa-e and an electric Fiat 500this year – but production will initially be limited as factories gear up. At the same time, they are keen to hang on to their profitable but polluting sales of internal combustion engines.

VW has never had problems with creative solutions to emission levels!

 

[Moakesy]

If this was the case, then why would they replace the Beach model with the Coast? VW are still offering two models of the Cali in the UK, just like before.

There must be another reason for dropping the Beach from the UK, although I’m blowed if I can work out what it is. Ocean + Beach makes much more sense to me that Ocean + Coast.