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Lowering Springs - how much should they cost?

Bobajob

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At the same time as getting a service done, I have decided to get the 30mm lowering springs fitted to our T6 (to improve the cornering capability), but am intrigued by what price I should be paying. Have read a few posts on here, but can’t find any from anyone who’s had it done in the last 6 months.
Looking online, the VWCV accessories brochure says it should cost FROM £465 including fitting and VAT. When I asked Wooburn Green, they quoted me £569 inclusive.
I thought I would give SMG Cowfold a call - as VIP forum members are listed as qualifying ,for a 10% discount. Interestingly, they told me that they are no longer offering this discount from 2020. However, they said that they would like to help on this occasion and would offer me 20% discount on the parts and 10% off the Labour for the fitting of the springs only (not the service). However, they said this would be £500 + VAT (so £600 all in). Doesn’t seem like a great discount!
Anyone else had this done at a VW Van Centre recently? Interested to know how much you paid.
 
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Not recently but I got mine done 18months ago at £480 if I remember at Liverpool Vw. You won’t remove the roll with these, reduce it slightly yes but if this is what you are going for I would advise on anti roll bar addition, or like I did, replace the whole lot with eibach coilovers which reduces the roll significantly.
hope this helps some.
 
pjm-84

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SMG's Cowfold did mine back in May 19 for £455.40 inc VAT.

I would have note the issue I had with the front anti roll bar drop link that cost me £98+VAT two month later after it failed its MOT.
 
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Had these fitted 3 months ago. Had the steering wheel realigned to the rack (see separate threads on here re. steering alignment) and full tracking/geometry done at same time, and I have ACC which has to be realigned when lowering springs fitted. Paid £600 give or take a few pence IIRC all in.
 
ArunAlec

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At the same time as getting a service done, I have decided to get the 30mm lowering springs fitted to our T6 (to improve the cornering capability), but am intrigued by what price I should be paying. Have read a few posts on here, but can’t find any from anyone who’s had it done in the last 6 months.
Looking online, the VWCV accessories brochure says it should cost FROM £465 including fitting and VAT. When I asked Wooburn Green, they quoted me £569 inclusive.
I thought I would give SMG Cowfold a call - as VIP forum members are listed as qualifying ,for a 10% discount. Interestingly, they told me that they are no longer offering this discount from 2020. However, they said that they would like to help on this occasion and would offer me 20% discount on the parts and 10% off the Labour for the fitting of the springs only (not the service). However, they said this would be £500 + VAT (so £600 all in). Doesn’t seem like a great discount!
Anyone else had this done at a VW Van Centre recently? Interested to know how much you paid.
Worth getting a quote from Tom .... https://www.clcsussex.com/ just down the road from SMG. He sorted out my dodgy front strut and is a VW specialist.
 
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Very interesting that Wooburn Green quoted you £569! I called them just before Christmas to make an appointment for exactly the same thing and wanted to clarify price as I too couldn't find anything recent on here. I made the booking (that will take place in 10 days time) on the basis they'd come with clarification on pricing. I told them I'd expect £465 inc VAT as that's what's in the brochure. They called back to confirm it would be £465.40 .... Maybe I got cheaper deal because I made the appointment before the New Year and prices have gone up in Jan...?

I'm not sure exactly what's going to get done (although they expect it to take 4 hours - which meant I wasn't going to wait around on the day for them to complete the job.) Reading above, I'm not sure if that involves any steering/geo realignment, or not, as part of the standard job spec? Would be interested to hear if anyone knows the answer to that. Also interested to hear if it's is really necessary to also get geometry re-done after springs? My van only has 1600 miles on it so I'm not expecting anything to be out of spec' at this point.
 
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Had mine checked by a third party following the installation and it was all within tolerance. He did, however, adjust the steering wheel which he offset slightly and subsequently had to correct.

Had mine done more so because I put a new set of 18in wheels and tyres on. The rear had previously lost alignment which I understand is quite common
 
B J G

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I'd go for H&R ARB's (anti-roll-bars) as a first option as they will give a noticeable reduction in body roll. Best option is to have both springs and ARB's done in one go.
Various Independent suppliers will give a good deal for supply & fit.
 
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Yes, tracking on mine was needed anyway - uneven front tyre wear - and the steering rack alignment is a separate issue; would have been adjusted under warranty if I had raised in first 6mths but it wasn’t bad enough. Just niggled over time so got it done at same time.
 
Bobajob

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Thanks for all of the replies. Not 100% sure what to do for the best if I’m honest. Went back to SMG this morning and asked if this wasn’t a mistake, but they said it wasn’t, explaining that VW insist that when doing this job that the dealer has to replace all associated parts (so anything removed as part of fitting the springs) such as top mount nuts, strut to hub nuts, bottom ball joint nuts and bolts, anti roll bar nuts and bolts, rear shock absorber nuts and bolts etc. (seems a bit over the top on a van thats only done 12k miles). I would have thought that this would be the same for all dealers - and if it is required, why quote a ‘fitted’ price in the brochure that excludes it?
In the end I’m not looking to transform the handling of the van (it is a leisure vehicle after all) just make it a bit less wallowy - so I can’t justify spending £2k+ going down the Eibach route.
Still got 3.5 years on the warranty at present so don’t want to go to non-approved garage (but thanks for the suggestion Alec).
BJG - do you know how much it costs to replace the anti roll bars? I suspect I would be then getting into the same cost bracket as the Eibach option.
 
Bobajob

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Had these fitted 3 months ago. Had the steering wheel realigned to the rack (see separate threads on here re. steering alignment) and full tracking/geometry done at same time, and I have ACC which has to be realigned when lowering springs fitted. Paid £600 give or take a few pence IIRC all in.
What are your thoughts on the result - much difference?
 
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I had a lowering kit fitted on our new Beach pre delivery for £300 plus vat in May.
Van has always had a problem with the steering wheel being slightly off set which is annoying.
Went back to correct, but was never really sorted.
Had alignment checked and adjusted still within tolerance to try and correct off set however it never made much difference.
Is steering rack alignment something different?
 
pjm-84

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Nah.... that's a load of waffle.

The issue I had (another one with SMG) is whether the axle to struct bolts are stretch and need to be replaced. Breeze thought they were and included the cost of replacement bolts / SMG said they the undertook the works in accordance with the requirements so reused the old bolts / VWCS confirmed that they were not stretch bolts. So in this instance, SMG was correct.... and Breeze overcautious
 
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The Cali is suspectable to road camber. Some people will say no, the steering wheel will be straight.

Agree it will, but not when the road has a 1:30 camber to the kerb.
 
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I had a lowering kit fitted on our new Beach pre delivery for £300 plus vat in May.
Van has always had a problem with the steering wheel being slightly off set which is annoying.
Went back to correct, but was never really sorted.
Had alignment checked and adjusted still within tolerance to try and correct off set however it never made much difference.
Is steering rack alignment something different?
Ruled out camber, opposite camber just lessened effect. Went with advice given to you previously. Sorted it completely, now runs exactly as you would expect taking camber into account.
 
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What are your thoughts on the result - much difference?
Fitted them for exactly same reason as you ie. to make van less wallowy. Which is exactly what it did. I'm very happy, #1 son (who really wasn't happy, not good a good traveller) even happier. Looks better too, imho. You'll get lots of opinions on here re. ARB vs springs etc. but for me springs alone did exactly what I wanted.

No idea about nuts/bolts etc. Cost above was VW main dealer but included the other work detailed.
 
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Jon A

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Since this topic came up I've read a couple of other threads and I'm left with an open question about the standard pricing of ~£465 :
Other threads have mentioned that after lowering the ACC (adaptive cruise control) needs to be re-calibrated and this can be 1-2 hrs of work. My van is booked in for the standard job in 10 days time, has the ACC function and I've been quoted £465.
Should i expect ACC to be re-calibrated within this work/price? I assume so, since it is meant to be a fixed price job and ACC is a pretty common option for the California. Has anyone had lowering with ACC done at the std price?
Shouldn't matter, but maybe worth noting, that I'm having the work done at a different place than the supplying dealer for practical logistics.


@Bobajob - You last note suggests you're hesitating after people have commented about anti-rollbars and other options. I've driven an ocean with and without the std lowering springs and I noticed a big difference. On motorway and straight A roads less so. However on B roads and around town, where you are changing direction a lot, it is very very noticeable that the vehicle changes direction faster, is quicker to steer and with less body roll. The feeling of "driving on bendy stilts" is gone, it feels planted and frankly safer. As you said - it's a leisure vehicle - not a sports car. I believe the std lowering springs is a "good enough" and "reasonable value" improvement for most people to move to a more enjoyable drive and not get seasick!
 
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I was gonna get some coil overs fitted next month, but might just get the VW lowering springs after reading some of the comments here.
I did want to go lower, but I’ve hit a few off road places lately and was thankful the van wasn’t lowered...
 
pjm-84

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Just one point to note. Ride at the front can be a bit "trashy" over the bumps. If the coil overs provided all the benefits and removed this issue I would have gone with the coil overs up to say 3x cost of the lowering springs
 
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