New Ford Transit

[CaliforniaPhil]

I have just been out in a new Ford Transit custom. My cousin said its just been released, he has had it on order for about 6 months.

Is this the one VW are going to badge?

Think he said its around 140bhp, it seemed nippy enought but it was empty, so probably below 2 tonne. It's max weight is around 2800kg. The ride is so much better than my Cali on 18" rims, its more like a car. The Ford has the optional 17" rims with 215 tyres. My cali suspension rattles through the van when going over our lovely uk roads. He said its a lot better than his 2 year old transit he is replacing.

The wheels on it have 6 stud now! I was wondering if I went down to 17" rims with bigger side walls, how much would it improve my ride.

 

[WelshGas]

I have just been out in a new Ford Transit custom. My cousin said its just been released, he has had it on order for about 6 months.

Is this the one VW are going to badge?

Think he said its around 140bhp, it seemed nippy enought but it was empty, so probably below 2 tonne. It's max weight is around 2800kg. The ride is so much better than my Cali on 18" rims, its more like a car. The Ford has the optional 17" rims with 215 tyres. My cali suspension rattles through the van when going over our lovely uk roads. He said its a lot better than his 2 year old transit he is replacing.

The wheels on it have 6 stud now! I was wondering if I went down to 17" rims with bigger side walls, how much would it improve my ride.

Significantly.

 

[TripleBee]

Does that new Transit still have a fixed rear axle, or is it separate?
Also, 600kg of California makes a lot of difference in driving experience.
And the bigger the rims, the less bounce you have in your tyres.
If I put 2,8 bar pressure on my 16" wheels, the ride is immensely smooth, but the tyre wear will be significantly worse. So I put them to 3.5 bar, and deal with a harsher ride.

 

[CaliforniaPhil]

Does that new Transit still have a fixed rear axle, or is it separate?
Also, 600kg of California makes a lot of difference in driving experience.
And the bigger the rims, the less bounce you have in your tyres.
If I put 2,8 bar pressure on my 16" wheels, the ride is immensely smooth, but the tyre wear will be significantly worse. So I put them to 3.5 bar, and deal with a harsher ride.

I'll get under it next week and see if it's a fixed rear axle.

I though there were posts on here saying the Cali is less noisy when loaded.

My parmestons (don't know how you spell it, I hope I'm close) look great, a pain to clean though. If I swap them, it's an expensive exercise if it doesn't make much difference. I'll keep an eye out for californias in the area and see if I can get a ride to compare.

I'll have a look at pressure as well.

Edit, tyre pressures between loaded and unloaded are not that different at about 2 psi. So I can't see that changing much. Interesting to see the narrower 17" tyre pressure is around 10 psi more. You'd think what you gain in side wall bouncyness would be reduced by the higher pressure.
I take it your 16" should be around 50psi.



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[CaliforniaPhil]

Significantly.

Would that be 17" with the 215 or 235's. As I said the 215 run at 10psi higher than the 235.

I'll keep a look out for some 7J 17"

 

[CaliforniaPhil]

Does that new Transit still have a fixed rear axle, or is it separate?
Also, 600kg of California makes a lot of difference in driving experience.
And the bigger the rims, the less bounce you have in your tyres.
If I put 2,8 bar pressure on my 16" wheels, the ride is immensely smooth, but the tyre wear will be significantly worse. So I put them to 3.5 bar, and deal with a harsher ride.

Old one has the fixed rear, new one is like the T6.1

 

[B J G]

I have just been out in a new Ford Transit custom. My cousin said its just been released, he has had it on order for about 6 months.

Is this the one VW are going to badge?

Think he said its around 140bhp, it seemed nippy enought but it was empty, so probably below 2 tonne. It's max weight is around 2800kg. The ride is so much better than my Cali on 18" rims, its more like a car. The Ford has the optional 17" rims with 215 tyres. My cali suspension rattles through the van when going over our lovely uk roads. He said its a lot better than his 2 year old transit he is replacing.

The wheels on it have 6 stud now! I was wondering if I went down to 17" rims with bigger side walls, how much would it improve my ride.

The Ford - VW van is the T7 but VW using the Multivan for California replacement.

 

[CaliforniaPhil]

The Ford - VW van is the T7 but VW using the Multivan for California replacement.

It will be interesting to see what the converters do with it, always an option if you want to keep below 5m. The cabin looks really good. Its auto and the gear selector is on the side of the steering column, so great for 3 up front (builders van). my nephew went with the bigger media display. It's got all the toys you want, adaptive cruise etc. He even spect it with and inverter to charge his tools.

 

[TripleBee]

I'll get under it next week and see if it's a fixed rear axle.

I though there were posts on here saying the Cali is less noisy when loaded.

My parmestons (don't know how you spell it, I hope I'm close) look great, a pain to clean though. If I swap them, it's an expensive exercise if it doesn't make much difference. I'll keep an eye out for californias in the area and see if I can get a ride to compare.

I'll have a look at pressure as well.

Edit, tyre pressures between loaded and unloaded are not that different at about 2 psi. So I can't see that changing much. Interesting to see the narrower 17" tyre pressure is around 10 psi more. You'd think what you gain in side wall bouncyness would be reduced by the higher pressure.
I take it your 16" should be around 50psi.

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I put mine on 3,5 bar, so around 50 psi. This is what my sticker says.
For MOT I put them on 2.8bar, for the suspension test. When I then drive around, it's much more comfortable, but as I said, worse for tyre wear.
And as I drive on cargo tyres, they are much harder already than car tyres.

 

[hansendenmark]

The Ford - VW van is the T7 but VW using the Multivan for California replacement.

 

[hansendenmark]

It's a bit confusing, but T7 = Multivan. The new VW Ford Transit-based Transporter is simply called New Transporter and will not be part of the Tx legacy

 

[sbmcd]

New ford transit also has a wet cam belt, not a great idea from my prospective, not sure if you'd get that with the hybrid.

 

[TripleBee]

I saw a new Transit a few days ago. It looks very low and wide in comparison to the "real" Transporters.
Is this correct?

 

[adamsteele2802]

A van with a bulkhead is also quieter and more refined than the big open space of the cali.

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[Corradobrit]

It's a bit confusing, but T7 = Multivan. The new VW Ford Transit-based Transporter is simply called New Transporter and will not be part of the Tx legacy

The Tx legacy ended with the T6.1....... for now.

 

[Corradobrit]

A van with a bulkhead is also quieter and more refined than the big open space of the cali.

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No complaints from my driving seat. Total silence from behind. It's refined too even compared to car based chasis, with 235 tyres and stiffer ARB's.

 

[adamsteele2802]

No complaints from my driving seat. Total silence from behind. It's refined too even compared to car based chasis, with 235 tyres and stiffer ARB's.

Not a complaint just a fact, the transit I drive at work is noticeably quieter than my cali due to the bulkhead and being sat in a smaller space.

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[Wannabecamperman]

It will be interesting to see what the converters do with it, always an option if you want to keep below 5m. The cabin looks really good. Its auto and the gear selector is on the side of the steering column, so great for 3 up front (builders van). my nephew went with the bigger media display. It's got all the toys you want, adaptive cruise etc. He even spect it with and inverter to charge his tools.

I assume it was the hybrid petrol with Vehicle to Load option. This is why the new Ford Nugget currently has my attention. Saves carrying a separate powerbank. The Nugget also has 330w of solar as well as the optional V2L access from the hybrid traction battery. I'm just waiting to see if this becomes an option with the new Cali multivan...

 

[jts46]

New ford transit also has a wet cam belt, not a great idea from my prospective, not sure if you'd get that with the hybrid.

Not that easy to replace either

 

[sbmcd]

Not that easy to replace either

Engine apart so a very big job, problem with the belts in oil is they deteriorate, particles of belt end up in the oil distribution system which can block jets resulting in engine failure as a result of lubrication issues.

The recommendation for belts used to be replace it they have oil contamination, now running them in a oil bath is supposed to be ok?

BBC Watchdog shines light on Ford EcoBoost wet belt problem

The problems associated with Ford EcoBoost engines have been well documented over recent years. Customers have been left with big bills and without a car due to damage caused by premature failure of the wet

garagewire.co.uk

 

[CaliforniaPhil]

I assume it was the hybrid petrol with Vehicle to Load option. This is why the new Ford Nugget currently has my attention. Saves carrying a separate powerbank. The Nugget also has 330w of solar as well as the optional V2L access from the hybrid traction battery. I'm just waiting to see if this becomes an option with the new Cali multivan...

It's a diesel, it's a builders van with a bulk head.

 

[flying banana]

That wet belt idea,wtf? The best way ever to drive the valves is with gears. End of. Even timing chains are snapping due to poor design of the plastic guides

 

[66tim99]

Like the new tow bar and roof bar designs.
Don’t understand why the new Transporter is not the T7…strange move?
https://youtu.be/oLk_e8-xesY?si=eB8-g0-lqU0Ou1Qn

 

[soulstyledevon]

Saw this post on the Crosscamp Official website and thought it looked decent.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

I'll get under it next week and see if it's a fixed rear axle.

I though there were posts on here saying the Cali is less noisy when loaded.

My parmestons (don't know how you spell it, I hope I'm close) look great, a pain to clean though. If I swap them, it's an expensive exercise if it doesn't make much difference. I'll keep an eye out for californias in the area and see if I can get a ride to compare.

I'll have a look at pressure as well.

Edit, tyre pressures between loaded and unloaded are not that different at about 2 psi. So I can't see that changing much. Interesting to see the narrower 17" tyre pressure is around 10 psi more. You'd think what you gain in side wall bouncyness would be reduced by the higher pressure.
I take it your 16" should be around 50psi.

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Thread hijack - I shall soon have some new Woodstock 17” on brand new 235 profile tyres available. PM if of interest.

Back on topic - 17” ride a lot less crashy than 18”. 235 profile much more comfortable than commercial spec 215 profile tyres.