Campervan VED Increases

[Mark Best]

Hi All - somebody told me today that from Sept 2019 VED for newly registered campervan/motor homes has increased almost ten-fold and there are year-on-year huge increases for following 5 years. Is this true ?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Have you looked here?

Vehicle tax rates

Tables showing the rates for vehicle tax for different types of vehicle.

www.gov.uk

 

[B J G]

No such category as a Campervan. There was/is Motor Caravan but California no longer qualifies in this category and now classed as an MPV.

Motor Homes I believe are now being subjected to the over £40K tax which is pushing them up. Californias have been subject to this since introduced in April 2017.

 

[Jabberwocky]

My interpretation for a van (MyCali) with CO2 emissions of between 191 and 225g/km and cost (the published price before any discounts) more than £40k. This is for new registrations since April 2017.

 

[westfalia]

Not sure if you can open this--
It was in the sunday times yesterday.

Tax hike ‘means the end of the road for camper vans’

A tax rise that adds nearly £1,900 on to the price of a new camper van should be reversed because it threatens the future production of such vehicles, a group of MPs have argued.Fifty-five MPs joined campaigners last week in calling for Boris Johnson to rethink the 705% increase in the cost of a bu

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[pjm-84]

My interpretation for a van (MyCali) with CO2 emissions of between 191 and 225g/km and cost (the published price before any discounts) more than £40k. This is for new registrations since April 2017.
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145 for year 6 onwards

 

[Jabberwocky]

145 for year 6 onwards

THis is from Gov web site in link posted above.


So the additional £320 + the std £146 makes the figure of £465 as shown above. This payment is due for each of the five years following first VED payment making year 7 when it reverts to the std £145 p.a.

 

[pjm-84]

Yes, you're correct. Always known as 5years but checking again it states after first year licence.So the reality is its not until year 7 that you pay the lower VED

 

[Kedaw]

You're correct the £145 after 5 years but presume that will also increase as the government tries to force us all to electric and leave our 'dirty diesels'.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Sorry but it's after 6 years. 1 + the emissions tax in year 1, then 5 + the std rate of £145 + price list tax of £320 for the next five years, by which time it will be 6 years of tax and thus the 7th year before it goes to the std rate of £145.

 

[2into1]

Isn’t this all old news? It all seems to have been stirred up with a feature in The Times, but this has been the situation since 2017.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Isn’t this all old news? It all seems to have been stirred up with a feature in The Times, but this has been the situation since 2017.

Yes, old news but still confusing/unsettling for some.

 

[Bellcrew]

Isn’t this all old news? It all seems to have been stirred up with a feature in The Times, but this has been the situation since 2017.

Up to September 2019 whilst California's had been taxed as if they were cars, most if not all conversions/motorhomes avoided the enhanced road fund tax/£40000+ supertax by dint of the manufacturers using a loophole in the regulations.
If they did not notify the tax authorities of the original vans CO2 emissions when registering the were just taxed as private goods vehicles.
Unfortunately someone at the inland revenue noticed and decided to insist that all these conversions would be assumed to be private passenger vehicles and subject them to the same taxation regime that expensive cars had to pay.

 

[Calimili]

Up to September 2019 whilst California's had been taxed as if they were cars, most if not all conversions/motorhomes avoided the enhanced road fund tax/£40000+ supertax by dint of the manufacturers using a loophole in the regulations.
If they did not notify the tax authorities of the original vans CO2 emissions when registering the were just taxed as private goods vehicles.
Unfortunately someone at the inland revenue noticed and decided to insist that all these conversions would be assumed to be private passenger vehicles and subject them to the same taxation regime that expensive cars had to pay.

Is that for the big white motorhomes as well?

 

[Calimili]

That‘s moronic sorry. So you get a bunch of people that like to go camping most likely in the UK and pay local fuel, camping fees, restaurant and bars. It all stays in the country, including the taxes on all the above. But because the motorhome due to weight and size pollutes a bit more than a car the govt thinks they should get $(rewd. Would we be then better off if such bunch of people would then instead jump on a way more polluting flight overseas and spend their money there?

Sorry for the rant

 

[WelshGas]

That‘s moronic sorry. So you get a bunch of people that like to go camping most likely in the UK and pay local fuel, camping fees, restaurant and bars. It all stays in the country, including the taxes on all the above. But because the motorhome due to weight and size pollutes a bit more than a car the govt thinks they should get $(rewd. Would we be then better off if such bunch of people would then instead jump on a way more polluting flight overseas and spend their money there?

Sorry for the rant

Not quit correct. ALL cars, and the California is registered as a M1 Diesel Car in the U.K., that cost over £40,000 are taxed at this special rate for 6 years.

 

[Bellcrew]

Is that for the big white motorhomes as well?

Yes, lots of of these big whites were preregistered before September and a number of dealers are absorbing the increased on the road charges for the moment. Any ones guess how this will play out.

 

[Calimili]

Not quit correct. ALL cars, and the California is registered as a M1 Diesel Car in the U.K., that cost over £40,000 are taxed at this special rate for 6 years.

Well it‘s difficult to understand the rationale of treating a Campervan the same as a sport car or big SUV.
Although using the Cali as a first of second car, you end up polluting more on those journeys you would have otherwised driven a normal, less polluting car.
I remain a big fan of CO2 tax certificates.

 

[Outanbout]

Ok...very confused here, sorry.
What is the VED for a second hand 2017 VW California Ocean, 204ps, valued above £40k.

Chris.

 

[Soton Campers]

Ok...very confused here, sorry.
What is the VED for a second hand 2017 VW California Ocean, 204ps, valued above £40k.

Chris.

Depends on when it was registered. I think anything post September 2017 was hit with the new charge.

 

[2into1]

Depends on when it was registered. I think anything post September 2017 was hit with the new charge.

The ‘depends’ bit is correct but I think the cutoff was more like April or May 2017.

 

[Lightning]

Ok...very confused here, sorry.
What is the VED for a second hand 2017 VW California Ocean, 204ps, valued above £40k.

Chris.

Check tax rates for new unregistered cars

Use the online tool to find the tax rate for new unregistered cars

www.gov.uk

 

[Outanbout]

Likely it’s pre sept 2017.
Does that put it into the £145 VED?

Many thanks for helping.

Chris.

 

[Outanbout]

Likely registered pre sept 2017.
Does that put it into the £145 VED ?

Many thanks for helping.

Chris.

 

[Lightning]

Likely registered pre sept 2017.
Does that put it into the £145 VED ?

Many thanks for helping.

Chris.

On or after 1st of April 2017 puts it into the £465 VED rate according to the table in the above link.