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Hi everyone,

I’m looking at installing a Clayton power unit in my 600. It requires a D+ connection wire to trigger the units built in Batt-Batt charger when the vehicle starts.

Would anyone know, or have even installed a Clayton unit and found a D+ connection. I’m assuming either under the passenger seat or engine bay fuse boxes?

Jason
 
D+ is the small wire from your alternator. It controls the battery warning light on your dash and the split charge relay.
 
Thanks for the info. Rather than wiring all the way to the alternator, there must be a termination point in a fuse/relay box on the crafter?
Anyone an idea….
 
you need a wiring diagram then. Log on to Erwin for an hour and download it.
 
D+ on a caddy didn't go any where near a fusebox, I had to run a wire from near the Alternator, it disappeared into the Engine / Battery management System ECU
 
I’m doing exactly this also and hoping someone can point us both in the right direction.im told you piggy back a fuse but finding the d+ fuse is proving difficult
 
I’m doing exactly this also and hoping someone can point us both in the right direction.im told you piggy back a fuse but finding the d+ fuse is proving difficult
You can use an Ignition On input in place of the Alternator D+ feed.

Yes, in many cases, an ignition-switched 12V feed can be used as a substitute for the alternator's D+ signal to activate a DC-to-DC charger. The D+ signal is traditionally used to indicate that the engine is running and the alternator is charging, but a switched ignition feed provides a similar function, ensuring the charger only operates when the vehicle's engine is running.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • D+ and Ignition Feed:
    Both the alternator's D+ terminal and a switched ignition feed provide a voltage signal when the engine is running (or the ignition is on).

  • DC-DC Charger Activation:
    DC-DC chargers typically require a signal to indicate when the engine is running, so they can safely charge the leisure battery from the starter battery.

  • Using Ignition Feed:
    If you can't easily access the D+ signal on your vehicle (which can sometimes be difficult), using a switched ignition feed is a viable alternative.

  • Considerations:
    Some DC-DC chargers are designed to work with a switched ignition feed directly, while others might require a relay to handle the current draw from the charger.

  • Smart Alternators:
    Some newer vehicles have "smart alternators" that regulate voltage more dynamically. In these cases, using a relay and potentially a voltage sensing relay is recommended to ensure proper charging.

  • Benefits of Ignition Feed:
    Using a switched ignition feed can be easier than finding and connecting to the D+ wire, especially if you are not familiar with your vehicle's wiring diagram.

  • Installation:
    When using an ignition feed, it's crucial to ensure it's a reliable and switched source that only provides power when the engine is running.
 
You can use an Ignition On input in place of the Alternator D+ feed.

Yes, in many cases, an ignition-switched 12V feed can be used as a substitute for the alternator's D+ signal to activate a DC-to-DC charger. The D+ signal is traditionally used to indicate that the engine is running and the alternator is charging, but a switched ignition feed provides a similar function, ensuring the charger only operates when the vehicle's engine is running.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • D+ and Ignition Feed:
    Both the alternator's D+ terminal and a switched ignition feed provide a voltage signal when the engine is running (or the ignition is on).

  • DC-DC Charger Activation:
    DC-DC chargers typically require a signal to indicate when the engine is running, so they can safely charge the leisure battery from the starter battery.

  • Using Ignition Feed:
    If you can't easily access the D+ signal on your vehicle (which can sometimes be difficult), using a switched ignition feed is a viable alternative.

  • Considerations:
    Some DC-DC chargers are designed to work with a switched ignition feed directly, while others might require a relay to handle the current draw from the charger.

  • Smart Alternators:
    Some newer vehicles have "smart alternators" that regulate voltage more dynamically. In these cases, using a relay and potentially a voltage sensing relay is recommended to ensure proper charging.

  • Benefits of Ignition Feed:
    Using a switched ignition feed can be easier than finding and connecting to the D+ wire, especially if you are not familiar with your vehicle's wiring diagram.

  • Installation:
    When using an ignition feed, it's crucial to ensure it's a reliable and switched source that only provides power when the engine is running.
Thanks so much welshgas!!!
as ever a weather of knowledge
 
Just be careful, the D+ is for Smart Alternators especially if vehicle has start/stop technology.
 
Worth noting that, whatever charging system is in place at the moment, there will be a D+ signal there. So find your current charging unit and there you will find what you need…….maybe.
 
Thankyou guys much appreciated
I may try the switched live?
I’ll call Clayton and see what they say
 
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