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Headlight replacement query for continental driving

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Merton, Oxforshire
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T5 SE 180
I haven't posted on here for a number of years but in the past have found the community extremely helpful, so I wonder if I could get some advice regarding a query that I have.

Our vehicle (Frank) is a late 2011 reg' and my query relates too the fact that we have just moved to Germany. We have moved here for 2 years in the first instance, however depending on a few factors (such as me getting a job) it is likely that we will remain for longer. Last week I took Frank for a TUV test (German equivalent of MOT). Being a little naive, I completely forgot the fact that the headlight orientation of a RHD vehicle would ensure it failed, (it did fail) and of course the temporary sticker/deflectors that we had fitted are just that, i.e. temporary, and won't help it to get through the test. However the test centre were very understanding and offered to test it again free of charge if I could get the lights corrected and brought it back within a couple of weeks. I drove to three Volkswagen garages near Munich to see if they could assist, all were really busy, however one of the larger places offered to book it in for the work to take place in a couple of weeks. What really surprised me was the cost, I was quoted approx' 1,500 Euros for the work to be carried out and was told that they would need to have the vehicle for two days, as in undertaking the work they would need to remove some of the front parts of the vehicle. *Please note that this was for a straightforward replacement i.e. remove and replace with a standard headlight LHD unit. I did query that because this was quite expensive whether it would be worth me having a more modern unit Xenon? as I understand that these are both RHD and LHD compliant and if I drove the vehicle back to the UK I would be able to use these more modern units without having to switch/change again, however I could tell that there was a clear reluctance to fit this partly owing to a more complicated fix and also because the additional cost (I wasn't told how much more) would make it somewhat prohibitive. So my questions are.

Has anone else had this dilemma and if so how did they resolve it?

Does this work seem particularly expensive?

Are there any other options that would see our vehicle pass the TUV (similar to first question)

Some things to consider, whilst I am competent at DIY I am not in the least bit competent when it comes to mechanics & vehicles, so really wouldn't be keen to try and undertake this myself. At the moment I am also considering whether as a temporary measure get in insured via a specialist scheme that offers a policy for UK registered cars for annual use in the EU without a time limit.

Thank you in advance for any thoughts that you might have, and sorry for the very long post.

Fin
 
I haven't posted on here for a number of years but in the past have found the community extremely helpful, so I wonder if I could get some advice regarding a query that I have.

Our vehicle (Frank) is a late 2011 reg' and my query relates too the fact that we have just moved to Germany. We have moved here for 2 years in the first instance, however depending on a few factors (such as me getting a job) it is likely that we will remain for longer. Last week I took Frank for a TUV test (German equivalent of MOT). Being a little naive, I completely forgot the fact that the headlight orientation of a RHD vehicle would ensure it failed, (it did fail) and of course the temporary sticker/deflectors that we had fitted are just that, i.e. temporary, and won't help it to get through the test. However the test centre were very understanding and offered to test it again free of charge if I could get the lights corrected and brought it back within a couple of weeks. I drove to three Volkswagen garages near Munich to see if they could assist, all were really busy, however one of the larger places offered to book it in for the work to take place in a couple of weeks. What really surprised me was the cost, I was quoted approx' 1,500 Euros for the work to be carried out and was told that they would need to have the vehicle for two days, as in undertaking the work they would need to remove some of the front parts of the vehicle. *Please note that this was for a straightforward replacement i.e. remove and replace with a standard headlight LHD unit. I did query that because this was quite expensive whether it would be worth me having a more modern unit Xenon? as I understand that these are both RHD and LHD compliant and if I drove the vehicle back to the UK I would be able to use these more modern units without having to switch/change again, however I could tell that there was a clear reluctance to fit this partly owing to a more complicated fix and also because the additional cost (I wasn't told how much more) would make it somewhat prohibitive. So my questions are.

Has anone else had this dilemma and if so how did they resolve it?

Does this work seem particularly expensive?

Are there any other options that would see our vehicle pass the TUV (similar to first question)

Some things to consider, whilst I am competent at DIY I am not in the least bit competent when it comes to mechanics & vehicles, so really wouldn't be keen to try and undertake this myself. At the moment I am also considering whether as a temporary measure get in insured via a specialist scheme that offers a policy for UK registered cars for annual use in the EU without a time limit.

Thank you in advance for any thoughts that you might have, and sorry for the very long post.

Fin
I presume you have the standard H7 Halogen Headlights. So you would have to buy 2 x LHD lights and the fitting process involve removing the front bumper and grill.
Fitting Zenon or LED headlights would be 2 or 3 times more expensive as there are more electronics involved as well as Automatic Self Levelling etc:
The cost seems about right from VW as replacement headlights LHD are probably £ 700 GB.

Might be cheaper fitting aftermarket replacements and checking out a VW specialist NOT a Dealership.
 
VW would be the most expensive, you could try a car body repair place
and walk in with a pair of these under your arms ;)

They are for the T5 pre facelift model and won't fit
 
They are for the T5 pre facelift model and won't fit
On the scroll down menu where it asks which vehicle, i entered from 2010.
It could be that they have the facelift ones without a picture.
I would call them first.
 
Thanks to everyone for the replies, really appreciate the help and support of the forum. After much thought and deliberation, we have put things on hold and insured it through Stuart Collins (Swansea) who were brilliant and who insure UK vehicles abroad. This will give us time to consider our options.
 
In the UK an MOT tester will pass any vehicle which is legal at the actual time of the test, ie temporary fittings are acceptable, even if they fall off five minutes after leaving the test centre.

My son wired a fog light to his vehicle, ran the wires through the car interior, into the boot and out of gap between the boot lid and double sided it to the rear of the car. It worked, so it passed. He took it off when he got home.

Wouldn't the perspex deflectors be sufficient in Germany? They are semi permanent.

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In the UK an MOT tester will pass any vehicle which is legal at the actual time of the test, ie temporary fittings are acceptable, even if they fall off five minutes after leaving the test centre.

My son wired a fog light to his vehicle, ran the wires through the car interior, into the boot and out of gap between the boot lid and double sided it to the rear of the car. It worked, so it passed. He took it off when he got home.

Wouldn't the perspex deflectors be sufficient in Germany? They are semi permanent.

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Not acceptable I'm afraid. The German TUV is much stricter than our very lax, by comparison, MOT.
 
Not acceptable I'm afraid. The German TUV is much stricter than our very lax, by comparison, MOT.

Not even the semi-permanent perspex versions?
 
The perspex covers with the stick on bits only cut off the part of the beam that lights up the left hand side of the road here in the UK. ie they completely flatten the beam, they do not bend the beam to the right hand side which is what would be needed for a continental test.
 
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