Italy - Grand Tour

tim batten

tim batten

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Anyone else heading off to Italy in the next couple of weeks?
We set off at the end of next week and will be exploring for three and a half weeks. Heading down via Florence, across to the east coast, down as far as Lecce, back up the west coast. Watch out for a blue UK Cali.
 
Hey lucky you! We've had a fab year for trips but note the past tense - zilch in prospect! ... Must remedy that :)
 
Hi Tim,

We did 6 weeks last year starting off around the 6th. Similar sort of round trip although we stayed around Annecy for a week or so on the way.

One thing to be aware of is that campsites close for the season quite early down south. We had a few occasions where we aimed for sites we thought would be open but it turned out they had all closec, so a few nights wild camping. Which is ok so long as you are prepared for it.

On your way back up the west coast stop at Paestum. Amazing ruins with huge temples. The Camping Villagio dei Pini was great and open late in the season. Great restaurant.

The only open campsite we found on the instep was an agritourism. Very nice but out in the wilds.

Anyway, hope you have a great time.
 
Hi Tim,

We did 6 weeks last year starting off around the 6th. Similar sort of round trip although we stayed around Annecy for a week or so on the way.

One thing to be aware of is that campsites close for the season quite early down south. We had a few occasions where we aimed for sites we thought would be open but it turned out they had all closec, so a few nights wild camping. Which is ok so long as you are prepared for it.

On your way back up the west coast stop at Paestum. Amazing ruins with huge temples. The Camping Villagio dei Pini was great and open late in the season. Great restaurant.

The only open campsite we found on the instep was an agritourism. Very nice but out in the wilds.

Anyway, hope you have a great time.

Thanks for this advice. We were looking for a site around this area, so will definitely stay at this one. We are using mainly ACSI sites. Not pre-booking most so we have flexibility. It's hard to understand why most sites in Italy close at the end of September!
 
Good luck Tim. Let us know how you get on. Hope you don't aim for too many sites that turn out to be closed when you arrive.

The worst places we found this were down the east coast around Bari and south of Paestum at the bottom end of the national park at Marina di Cameroti.

There are good sites on the north side of lake Trasimeno which are within easy striking distance of the places everyone wants to see. Also on the way back there's a council run site at Lucca which I think is open all year. Lucca is well worth a visit.

Have fun, load up the van with goodies for the cold winter months when you get back here.m
 
Reading the news over the last week and wondering how you are getting on with the earthquakes. Has the van been rocking and rolling?

Although I see from the flag by your avatar that you are in Portugal, so maybe you gave up on Italy earlier on.
 
We stayed at a couple of interesting sites in Italy earlier this year (we also used ACSI) one is Camping Belsito at Montecatini Alto (its listed as being at Montecatini Terme the larger town but it's a couple of miles out at Alto)

https://goo.gl/maps/vmWTQMQyCTJ2

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Location is almost equidistant between Florence and Pisa/Sienna via the mountainside "funicolare" railway and a 20 min walk to the main station (about €5 to Florence!). Means you can leave the Cali at the site to do some exploring. The site is up in the hills and Montecatini Alto village itself has been restored with a brace of eateries well worth a wander in the evening.

Another nice one we stayed at was Camping Fusina just across the lagoon from Venice.

https://goo.gl/maps/t9nsmLApFnu

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Bit bigger site, but nice and green and a 5 min walk to the hourly ferry service. Again you can leave things set up and wander around on foot.

Both sites also speak English which was a bonus despite my honest best efforts at Italian!

*edit* I just saw you posted this back in September but figured I'd leave my ramblings in here for anyone else - Doh!
 
Reading the news over the last week and wondering how you are getting on with the earthquakes. Has the van been rocking and rolling?

Although I see from the flag by your avatar that you are in Portugal, so maybe you gave up on Italy earlier on.
Hi Bramco. Thanks for asking, and thanks for your previous advice, which we followed. We did 3 weeks touring around Italy, in a (roughly) clockwise direction. We decided to skip the northern lakes, and Venice, which we will do at a later date. We entered Italy through the Frejus tunnel. We used ACSI campsites almost everywhere ( good value using the discount card), but we thought the standard of sites was fairly poor. Someone could make a killing out of selling toilet seats in Italy! We spent a couple of days in Florence - there is a very good campsite close to the centre - camping Firenze. You can cycle or get a bus into the centre. Florence is a very buy place, full of American and Japanese tourists, but certainly worth the visit. We then do the very scenic route through the Chianti region and Val D'Orcia, visiting Siena (we liked it better than Florence!), Pienza, Montepulciano, then camped at Castiglione Del Lago on the west side of Lake Tasimeno. This was a great campsite, Badiaccia, which has superb facilities but was closing the following day! We were one of only 2 camper vans on the site. This is a great area for cycle rides. Next was Perugia, and Assisi, Terni, Reti and L'Aquila. This route skirted the region which has been badly affected by the earthquake about 3 weeks earlier. Some roads were still closed. We then headed across to the east coast, and down to the National Park of Gargano, which we had read was very scenic and an essential place to visit. This was a disappointment - really slow, poor roads, untidy, and we picked up 2 punctures in 24 hours! Then down past Bari to Monopoli. This is a really nice place, with a campsite by the beach. Greenpeace Rainbow Warrier was in the marina, and we had a tour of the ship. We then visited the incredible Trulli houses of Alberetto, then the amazing town of Matera. Both world heritage sites, and not to be missed. Heading west via Potenza, we next stayed at Paestum at your recommended Del Pini site - very nice private beach. The Amalfi coast came next; an exciting drive on narrow cliff edge roads with tourist coaches coming the other way. Amalfi, Positano, Sorrento - all very attractive, but very difficult to park to explore. Next came Pompeii - no signs to find it, scruffy area, lots of Americans and Japanese, and a very very large site - but fascinating! We then planned to climb to the rim of Mount Vesuvius. Great, but the cloud then descended as we were climbing up (more crowds!) so when we got to the top, we couldn't see more than 3 or 4 metres ahead of us, and certainly nothing inside the volcano! We skipped Naples and Romes as we had been there before, so we blasted up the Autostrada, heading north, and in our quest for toilet seats, we decided to have a night in a B&B in Ceveteri. Amazing value and great breakfast. The California had a rest overnight. Further along the east coast, we stayed at a site which had also been recommended on this forum, Maremma Sanssouci at Castiglione della Pescaia - a very busy site in a pine forest by the beach, at which we must have seen about 50 Californias of all nationalities. It has an excellent restaurant. Pisa was our next stop. Great to see the leaning tower again after 45 years. The guide books rave about Cinque Terre - 5 small towns linked by a railway. We stayed nearby for 2 nights, and spent the days exploring. This was a big disappointment. Really busy, stuffed full of souvenir shops and cafes. Standing room only on the trains, and expensive tickets. I!m sure these towns look great from one of the many tourist boats, but our advice is give it a miss. By now the weather had turned and we had some rain and colder nights. We high tailed out of Italy, via the south of France, across Spain, and down the our favourite place - Praia da Luz in the Algarve. We are still here. Overall, we were a bit disappointed with Italy. The country seems to be disorganised and untidy. Lots of litter, and terrible road surfaces. They have fantastic historical sites, which they don't make the best of, and we didn't find the people to be very friendly. However, their food is superb, their ice creams are the best ever (apart from Dixons in Huddersfield) and the cost of eating out is very reasonable. We are very glad we did the trip, but won't be taking the California back there. As expected the Cali performed superbly, and emerged unscathed.
We have loads of photos (still on the camera) if anyone want more detail of any of these places.
 
Jeez Tim, how many kms is that all told?

Wonder how you ever got to sightsee with all the driving. Agree with you about the main tourist traps in Italy. Full of americans, Japanese etc. and not pleasant. However there are some great alternatives which are equally interesting.

I'm assuming the van is now packed to the gunnels with Italian and Spanish wine?
 
By the time we arrived in the Algarve, we had done about 4000 miles. We did see a lot, but there was a lot of driving, and we didn't stay more than 2 nights at any location. Not the most relaxing trip, we we wanted to do as much as we could in 3 weeks. As you know, the Cali is a very comfortable and quick means of transport, so the mileage was no problem. Re the wine, no, we prefer Portuguese wine, so we load up here to take home.
 

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