Patio Gas Or. Propane Gas ??

[Little owl1963]

From my research both Green Patio Gas , and Red Propane bottle are both Propane hence work better in winter , so don't think any difference between the 2 bottles ??
Do members have any preference to use either patio gas or Propane ??

But I often wonder why they don't bring out a ISO Butane / propane mix which is far superior in winter below freezing conditions .
Iv used the Small Red primus Power Gas, which is ISO Butane / propane MIX , NEVER ever let you down ..

 

[Little owl1963]

Patio Gas or Propane , for outside camper van ??

 

[Little owl1963]

Patio Gas or Propane , for outside camper van ??

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To confirm primus power gas is 50% butane 25% iso butane and 25% Propane,
Why can't calor gas do a iso butane bottle ???????
Just sent calor email asking why they can't do a Iso / butane bottle will keep you posted

 

[Little owl1963]

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Have you ever tried shaking a 11Kg gas bottle?

 

[Little owl1963]

Have you ever tried shaking a 11Kg gas bottle?

11kg ?? Iv not mentioned that size ??
I refer to calor propane 3.9 kg
Or patio gas in 5 kg .
The post is about doing Iso Butane bottle not bottle size ?
Not for inside camper , but when used outside of van , I do lot winter fishing , some places cannot get camper right to edge water , so also use a tent

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Good, Gases cannot be mixed in refillable containers without the vessel being flushed and pressure tested prior to refilling, this would make it prohibitively expensive for domestic use.
Mixed gases for domestic use are sold in disposable small volume containers.
If you want mixed gas then look at a cadac dual Pak. Mixed gases separate when stood hence "shaking"

 

[KevH]

I prefer to cart around a second Campingaz 907 as it serves ad a reserve for the fixed bottle ad well ad running my outside Cadac.
So the question of which gas to use doesn’t arise.

 

[Little owl1963]

Good idea , exactly what I do at present .
Only problem arises is if weather cold , say below 4 degrees think struggle get heat .
That why looking into iso / butane gas performs excellent in extreme conditions

 

[Little owl1963]

Good, Gases cannot be mixed in refillable containers without the vessel being flushed and pressure tested prior to refilling, this would make it prohibitively expensive for domestic use.
Mixed gases for domestic use are sold in disposable small volume containers.
If you want mixed gas then look at a cadac dual Pak. Mixed gases separate when stood hence "shaking"

Interesting I will look into that, makes sense that though

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

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[Little owl1963]

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Tried those, rubbish in cold weather .
Only one anygood is Primus Red bottle Power Gas

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

In really cold weather you need unleaded or meths in a trangia

 

[Little owl1963]

I agree got single an double Coleman unleaded stoves , very good just bit messing all the pumping up ha ha

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

The only other alternative is a folding titanium log burner

 

[Little owl1963]

Or a twig foldable aluminium burner 6 x 6 inch square
Coleman unleaded double verygood , only down side is pan supports , like ice skating ring .
Have hold on tightly to handles , lethal !!

 

[RockinNRollin]

I’ve camped in just below freezing temps and had no issues with gas pressure. The gas cylinder is inside and while the gas cabinet isn’t as warm as the main living area, a fair bit of heat will bleed in there. Your water will freeze before the temp becomes an issue for butane…..