sycamore gap tree felled

[sidepod]

It's a sign of the times we live in now. I went to post a letter few days ago and the old post box that's been there for decades has been nicked

Agreed but thought this was worth a chat as it usually involves camping to get to. I stayed at the twice brewed Inn. Interesting village called 'once brewed' if you drive in from one direction and ' twice brewed'from the other. Story is that the Romans whined about the beer being weak whilst building the wall so they made the brewers brew it again but stronger,hence the name, twice brewed.
As for the news sidepod, also don't watch it or read papers even tho i'm often accused on here of reading the daily mail.saw this due to lindisfarne festival mentioning it on their page.
Meanwhile I'm in the lakes again for a week
Glenridding

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How bizarre! I was just plotting a Lake District mission. We’ve only been back a week from a three week Euro trip. The van is turned around, cleaned, detailed. New tyres. Oil changed. I’m desperate to head off again.

 

[Borris]

Don't worry the perpetrator will feel the full force of the UK justice system when caught, so they can expected to attend at least 6 sessions with a Councillor to deal with their 'anger issues'

And I'm guessing, let off with a couple of hours "community service" for nicking a chainsaw!

 

[Anthony1]

gutted is an understatement. here is my pic of the stunning sycamore gap tree on hadrians wall,heres whats left of it after some utter absolute scroat (stronger words needed really) felled it last night ,what a country we now live in. i bet there were loads of vape pens and red bull cans left at the scene. irreplacable.

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It looks like a professional bit of tree felling. Not sure a 16 year old could do that alone.

 

[Corradobrit]

It looks like a professional bit of tree felling. Not sure a 16 year old could do that alone.

Yes the cut looks professionally done. Certainly no hack job

 

[The Tall Luthier]

How very mind boggingly sad!

Such an iconic view destroyed for absolutely no good reason.

 

[Dean Kennett]

gutted is an understatement. here is my pic of the stunning sycamore gap tree on hadrians wall,heres whats left of it after some utter absolute scroat (stronger words needed really) felled it last night ,what a country we now live in. i bet there were loads of vape pens and red bull cans left at the scene. irreplacable.

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I’m so saddened by this. What a complete misguided tool. What I wouldn’t give to just have five minutes with this idiot.

 

[Steve1]

It looks like a professional bit of tree felling. Not sure a 16 year old could do that alone.

Latest news says they have arrested a 60 year old too now.

 

[sdes]

It would seem we might have jumped to MSM conclusions about “youff”….a man (of course) in his 60s now arrested re the same crime against nature.

Sycamore Gap: Man in his 60s held after Hadrian's Wall tree cut down

Police make a second arrest over the cutting-down of the world-famous Hadrian's Wall tree.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DavidofHook]

Nope - smacking is banned !

devastated to hear about this. It was a lovely spot for a walk we visited a year ago.

a chainsaw to cut down a tree that size would be pretty heavy, I know I have a few. So must have used a quad bike or had help.

Highly unlikely a 16 year old did this on his own. They say they’ve now arrested a 60 year old man. Idiots. Grrrr!

 

[soulstyledevon]

As sad as this is, and I genuinely mean that.
Our lovely politicians sanctioned the culling of thousands of trees of ancient woodlands to build a high speed train track…..

 

[BlueyCalifornia64]

downed with a chainsaw too,where did the track suit wearing bell end get that from ?

We should cut his heart out with a spoon. (One for all the angry film buffs out there)

 

[Hawthorn37]

Maybe this lad had one of these nicked chainsaws

Nottinghamshire Police find 200 chainsaws in stolen van https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-66952568

 

[Autumn]

Agree. Just read 16 yr old being held. What have we become? Scroat doesn’t do it!!

I can't see how a 16 year old could do that alone

 

[soulstyledevon]

Paul Tavernor Art

 

[Gina-B]

I just hope the National Trust does something to replace the irreplaceable. A fully grown tree could be planted and treated well, will survive. Won't ever be the same but it would be something.

 

[Gina-B]

Paul Tavernor Art
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Beautiful!

 

[The Tall Luthier]

I just hope the National Trust does something to replace the irreplaceable. A fully grown tree could be planted and treated well, will survive. Won't ever be the same but it would be something.

I’ve literally just joined the national trust so as I can vote in their AGM. They’re under attack from a far right libertarian bunch of absolute tools who want to wrestle control and save the organisation from the ‘Wokerati’. NT is run by grown ups and should stay that way.

If anyone else is in a position to do the same it would be very useful for them.

 

[Lee.Van.Cleef]

I just hope the National Trust does something to replace the irreplaceable. A fully grown tree could be planted and treated well, will survive. Won't ever be the same but it would be something.

That seems to be a popular suggestion. The issue with that is that the tree was growing along the line of Hadrian's Wall, which is a scheduled monument and therefore legally protected (unlike the tree). Any excavation to plant a semi-mature tree would likely require excavation in advance, plus removal of residual roots, all of which would damage any archaeology within the footprint of the new tree. Plus, the wall is built along the whinstone crag in that location; it's likely the existing tree has grown around the underlying rock in a way that couldn't easily be replicated.

The assumption at the moment is that it will grow back, slowly, as a coppice.

 

[yossarian]

far right libertarian bunch of absolute tools

I know you're good at arguments but I'll bite: here's the the current Wikipedia's (I know but it's convenient) contributor:

The term right-libertarianism is used to distinguish this class of views on the nature of property and capital[8] from left-libertarianism, a type of libertarianism that combines self-ownership with an egalitarian approach to natural resources.[9] In contrast to socialist libertarianism,[3] right-libertarianism supports free-market capitalism.[1] Like most forms of libertarianism, it supports civil liberties,[1] especially natural law,[10] negative rights,[11] the non-aggression principle,[12] and a major reversal of the modern welfare state.[13]

Here it sounds like something a lot of people who own an expensive campervan might be keen on.

So what's so bad about far right libertarians? Happy to be educated.

 

[The Tall Luthier]

I know you're good at arguments but I'll bite: here's the the current Wikipedia's (I know but it's convenient) contributor:



Here it sounds like something a lot of people who own an expensive campervan might be keen on.

So what's so bad about far right libertarians? Happy to be educated.

I’m not ignoring you, and I love reading/talking about political ideologies. In this case that would throw the thread way off topic, poor tree.

 

[flying banana]

Is my thread heading for the same route as ozzy Pete? No ones mentioned the colour of the tree so far so we should be OK.

 

[CaliforniaSeb]

Is my thread heading for the same route as ozzy Pete? No ones mentioned the colour of the tree so far so we should be OK.

Nor the fact that it was a none binary tree.

 

[flying banana]

Nor the fact that it was a none binary tree.

People sssume the tree was green. which is wrong these days

 

[Gina-B]

That seems to be a popular suggestion. The issue with that is that the tree was growing along the line of Hadrian's Wall, which is a scheduled monument and therefore legally protected (unlike the tree). Any excavation to plant a semi-mature tree would likely require excavation in advance, plus removal of residual roots, all of which would damage any archaeology within the footprint of the new tree. Plus, the wall is built along the whinstone crag in that location; it's likely the existing tree has grown around the underlying rock in a way that couldn't easily be replicated.

The assumption at the moment is that it will grow back, slowly, as a coppice.

Such a shame. A coppice is better than nothing I suppose. I wonder how far away they would be able to plant a tree without causing the Wall to be compromised and still create a comparable vista.

 

[California_Ocean]

... say no more.