Dec17/Jan18 Production 'Emissions Issue' Register of Those Affected

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Hi Everyone

Given the other thread that is running regarding the production issues and the stop registration of new diesel M1 class vehicles from Volkswagen Commercial, I thought we could start a thread where we have a bit of a register of who's affected on here - more for morale support than anything.

I'll start (just copy and paste the list in to your replies as you go, so it is up-to-date)

(format - username, engine+model, order date, build week, current status)

1. Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
 
1. Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.
2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there
3.
4.
5.
6.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.
2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there
3. 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany
4.
5.
6.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.
2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there
3. 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany
4. 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.
5.
6.
 
Just tidying up with names added;

1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5.

6.

7.

8.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6.

7.

8.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7.

8.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean, ordered 31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currently held at the factory in Germany

9.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean, ordered 31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currently held at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10.

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1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean, ordered 31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currently held at the factory in Germany

9.JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2nd Jan. Held at dealership
 
Quick tidy up as we had two no 9s..

1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean, ordered 31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currently held at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2nd Jan. Held at dealership
 
11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered mid Sep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it is stuck at the factory
 
Oops, adding the rest of the list

1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived at Dealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion. Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle is built ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered 31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build but suspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered 13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean, ordered 31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currently held at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2nd Jan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered mid Sep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it is stuck at the factory
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived atDealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion.Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle isbuilt ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual. Ordered31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build butsuspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered13/09/17, Build week ?, Delivered early December and pick-up date organised for Dec 27th but now held at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived at Dealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean, ordered31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currently held at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2ndJan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered midSep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it isstuck at the factory

12. Jo ho ho, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 30th October 2017, build week 5, not yet built.
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived atDealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion.Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle isbuilt ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual.Ordered31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build butsuspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered13/09/17,Build week ?, Delivered early December andpick-up date organised for Dec 27th but nowheld at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived atDealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California,Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean,ordered31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currentlyheld at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2ndJan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered midSep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it isstuck at the factory

12. Jo ho ho, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 30th October 2017, build week 5, not yet built

13. Grant5, 150 DSG Ocean, ordered mid Sep 17, build week 45, collection arranged for 22 Dec 17. Vehicle still sat in the dealers.
 
Grant5 said:
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived atDealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion.Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle isbuilt ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual.Ordered31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build butsuspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered13/09/17,Build week ?, Delivered early December andpick-up date organised for Dec 27th but nowheld at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived atDealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California,Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean,ordered31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currentlyheld at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2ndJan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered midSep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it isstuck at the factory

12. Jo ho ho, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 30th October 2017, build week 5, not yet built

13. Grant5, 150 DSG Ocean, ordered mid Sep 17, build week 45, collection arranged for 22 Dec 17. Vehicle still sat in the dealers.
Click to expand...

14. Jenko, 150 Manual Beach, ordered mid September, build week 48, collection arranged for 1st March 2018. Held in UK, told it has to be returned to Germany and we will be issued a replacement DSG model with a build slot of week 7.
 
Just tidying up - thanks everyone for contributing. There is certainly quite a few of us caught up in this!

1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived atDealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion.Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle isbuilt ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual.Ordered31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build butsuspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered13/09/17,Build week ?, Delivered early December andpick-up date organised for Dec 27th but nowheld at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived atDealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California,Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean,ordered31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currentlyheld at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2ndJan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered midSep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it isstuck at the factory

12. Jo ho ho, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 30th October 2017, build week 5, not yet built

13. Grant5, 150 DSG Ocean, ordered mid Sep 17, build week 45, collection arranged for 22 Dec 17. Vehicle still sat in the dealers.

14. Jenko, 150 Manual Beach, ordered mid September, build week 48, collection arranged for 1st March 2018. Held in UK, told it has to be returned to Germany and we will be issued a replacement DSG model with a build slot of week 7.
 
itguy said:
Hi Everyone

Given the other thread that is running regarding the production issues and the stop registration of new diesel M1 class vehicles from Volkswagen Commercial, I thought we could start a thread where we have a bit of a register of who's affected on here - more for morale support than anything.

I'll start (just copy and paste the list in to your replies as you go, so it is up-to-date)

(format - username, engine+model, order date, build week, current status)

1. Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
Click to expand...
itguy said:
Hi Everyone

Given the other thread that is running regarding the production issues and the stop registration of new diesel M1 class vehicles from Volkswagen Commercial, I thought we could start a thread where we have a bit of a register of who's affected on here - more for morale support than anything.

I'll start (just copy and paste the list in to your replies as you go, so it is up-to-date)

(format - username, engine+model, order date, build week, current status)

1. Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
Click to expand...
el-felipé France 150 TDI DSG Ocean ordered 15/05/17 build Week 5 Not yet built
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived atDealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion.Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle isbuilt ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual.Ordered31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build butsuspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered13/09/17,Build week ?, Delivered early December andpick-up date organised for Dec 27th but nowheld at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived atDealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California,Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean,ordered31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currentlyheld at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2ndJan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered midSep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it isstuck at the factory

12. Jo ho ho, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 30th October 2017, build week 5, not yet built

13. Grant5, 150 DSG Ocean, ordered mid Sep 17, build week 45, collection arranged for 22 Dec 17. Vehicle still sat in the dealers.

14. Jenko, 150 Manual Beach, ordered mid September, build week 48, collection arranged for 1st March 2018. Held in UK, told it has to be returned to Germany and we will be issued a replacement DSG model with a build slot of week 7.

15. el-felipé, France 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 15/05/17, build Week 5, Not yet built
 
Hello everyone, ordered 204 dsg august 17, build week 4 and checked livechat last night and they think it has been built, hopefully !
 
1.Itguy, 204 TDI DSG Ocean California, Ordered 20th October, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

2. Jans2, 204 DSG 4Motion Ocean California. Ordered 21/8/17, Build Week 44, Arrived atDealership 28/11/17. Still there

3. Richard Brown, 204 TDi DSG 4Motion.Ordered 30/10/17, Build week 50. Vehicle isbuilt ,but suspended and held in Germany

4. Cwtch_twt, 150 TDi Manual.Ordered31/10/17. Build week 49. Vehicle is build butsuspended and held in Germany.

5. CarrieCali, 150 TDi DSG, Ordered13/09/17,Build week ?, Delivered early December andpick-up date organised for Dec 27th but nowheld at dealership.

6. Properjob, 204 DSG Ocean California, Ordered 30/09/17, Build Week 46, Arrived atDealership early Dec. Still there

7. Audio2, 204 DSG Ocean California,Ordered 30/10/17, Build Week 4, Not yet built.

8. California7, 204 TDi DSG Ocean,ordered31/10/17, Build Week 49, Currentlyheld at the factory in Germany

9. LadySmiff, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 27/10/17, Build Week 51, built & held at the factory in Germany

10. JudeT, 150 TDI Manual ordered 07/08/17 Build week? Received at dealership early December & pick up date arranged for 2ndJan. Held at dealership

11. Podge, 150 TDI DSG Beach, ordered midSep/2017, Build week 50, last I heard it isstuck at the factory

12. Jo ho ho, 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 30th October 2017, build week 5, not yet built

13. Grant5, 150 DSG Ocean, ordered mid Sep 17, build week 45, collection arranged for 22 Dec 17. Vehicle still sat in the dealers.

14. Jenko, 150 Manual Beach, ordered mid September, build week 48, collection arranged for 1st March 2018. Held in UK, told it has to be returned to Germany and we will be issued a replacement DSG model with a build slot of week 7.

15. el-felipé, France 150 TDI DSG Ocean, ordered 15/05/17, build Week 5, Not yet built

16. Caminante. Belgium. 150 Tdi 4mo Dsg, Ocean, Ordered 06/05/17, build ?, supposed to be delivered by 30/11/17, on hold in Brussels?? Now passing extra 25% of delivery time...
 
I hate to spoil the fun , but those "not yet built " how can they be affected ?
It's like : i won the lottery ...witch will take part next week ...
 
Jay586 said:
Erm, because they've ordered, got plans, have no timescale for a fix...
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How can a car thats not even build cause emmissions ?
Where do they fill up , Tesco or premium brands?
If it's a list of Cali's orderd and not yet deliverd the title needs change , it's about making a list with Cali's on hold due the emmission problems ...
 
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