Multiple Error Warnings

[Aidy P]

Has anyone else had this combination of error warnings…
- Error - Start Stop
- Tyre Pressure Loss Indicator Currently Not Available
- Error: ABS / stabilisation control (ESC)

Lights on dash as photo.

Van driving ok.

 

[WelshGas]

Has anyone else had this combination of error warnings…
- Error - Start Stop
- Tyre Pressure Loss Indicator Currently Not Available
- Error: ABS / stabilisation control (ESC)

Lights on dash as photo.

Van driving ok.

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99% certain faulty ABS sensor. Commonly a rear one but need a code reader to identify.
it could be some debris upsetting sensor.

 

[capt kirk]

How strange, i have exactly the same fault appeared this morning. Im gonna check it out monday morning

 

[Aidy P]

Thanks. I thought probably a sensor as the van drives fine and there hadn’t been any obvious incidents on the road to cause damage. I had covered a lot of miles so the debris suggestion could be relevant.

 

[WelshGas]

Thanks. I thought probably a sensor as the van drives fine and there hadn’t been any obvious incidents on the road to cause damage. I had covered a lot of miles so the debris suggestion could be relevant.

You might well get some symptoms if it is intermittent, from the 4Motion. I did.

 

[Aidy P]

You might well get some symptoms if it is intermittent, from the 4Motion. I did.

It has been intermittent. Anything I can do to clear this at home @WelshGas ? Thanks

 

[WelshGas]

It has been intermittent. Anything I can do to clear this at home @WelshGas ? Thanks

Mine was intermittent then became permenant. During the intermittent phase there were occasions where pulling away seemed as if the brakes were on. I believe this was due either to the ABS or Haldex responding to an abnormal sensor output. Once the lights were on permanently the drive was fine.
Carista showed N/S rear sensor. I checked for any debris, the wiring harness - all fine.
When in for its service VW were unable to confirm the diagnosis as their computer system requires a connection to a VW mainframe. Anyway I told them to replace both rear ABS sensors, although Carista said only one was faulty. Contrary to others who have said it’s a simple 5 minute job, both sensors were well and truely immovable and basically had to be removed piecemeal. Took a few hours by my garage. I changed both as it seem when 1 rear fails the other soon will and I’m off to Norway in 5 weeks.

 

[Aidy P]

Mine was intermittent then became permenant. During the intermittent phase there were occasions where pulling away seemed as if the brakes were on. I believe this was due either to the ABS or Haldex responding to an abnormal sensor output. Once the lights were on permanently the drive was fine.
Carista showed N/S rear sensor. I checked for any debris, the wiring harness - all fine.
When in for its service VW were unable to confirm the diagnosis as their computer system requires a connection to a VW mainframe. Anyway I told them to replace both rear ABS sensors, although Carista said only one was faulty. Contrary to others who have said it’s a simple 5 minute job, both sensors were well and truely immovable and basically had to be removed piecemeal. Took a few hours by my garage. I changed both as it seem when 1 rear fails the other soon will and I’m off to Norway in 5 weeks.

Thanks for the info. I’ll get it booked in to the garage.

 

[Aidy P]

@WelshGas. Back from the garage. ABS sensor as you predicted. Waiting for a quote. How much did you get charged please?

 

[WelshGas]

@WelshGas. Back from the garage. ABS sensor as you predicted. Waiting for a quote. How much did you get charged please?

Mines not a true comparison, it took 3 hrs to get both out whereas it should be literally a 30 minute job as the sensor is unplugged, locking bolt removed, sensor out , new one in, locking bolt and plug in. Obviously the vehicle is jacked up and wheel removed and replaced.
So mine was 4 hrs Labour in total + 2 sensors. I was charged £450 or so.

 

[Ch1pbutty]

@WelshGas. Back from the garage. ABS sensor as you predicted. Waiting for a quote. How much did you get charged please?

£95 incl diagnostic, fit new sensor, test drive at our local garage.

They also tried cleaning the old one first, reset error & then test drove…but new one was needed.

 

[capt kirk]

still trying to sort mine, seems to be a shortage of bits about in my area, ended up geting them from germany and they aint arrived yet, supposed to be here tommorow. fingers crossed

 

[Mike Jenkins]

I had same scenario as WelshGass. Replaced one myself, never again. Also, once one goes other 3 seem to go within the year. I was charged £80 to replace two, but that was in Anglesey

 

[capt kirk]

i just done mine, both rears and cost 32.00, took about an hour, hardest part was getting the wheels off.

 

[MarmiteBoy321]

Hi, although I have a 2014 Ocean (T5.1) and not a T6, I have had same combination of warning lights several times recently (intermittently). They seem to be a relatively common combination (all 3 lights together). Always the wheel sensor each time. Unfortunately, I am past the stage of tackling this kind of thing myself these days, so down to my local (non-VW) garage each time I'm afraid. £250 per visit to replace sensor etc. Front OS and then left rear ABS wheel sensors went within 2 months of each other. Now it's the turn of the rear right sensor, according to my Carista diagnostic plug in (v useful for this sort of thing). No discernible effects on driving, but I'll get it sorted in next few weeks I expect. Only one more to go after that! Advice to do all 4 at same time may be sound in the long run. I love my VW, but it sure ain't a cheap ride!!

 

[Baldrick]

Same happened to me this Xmas and whilst driving in the cross wind of a really bad storm. The combination of lights indicated that the wheel speed indicator and from that the stability control has failed, apparently (worth knowing in advance, dear reader) anyway, I was half way into the next carriageway before I recovered it and took more of an old school grip on the steering wheel. Fortunately there was no one there at that moment. VanTech independent VW specialist in Uckfield replaced the day after New Years within the hour for £200 ish - whilst I waited. I could have kissed 'em.

As an aside I found these guys on this forum and I've started using them only because the service side of our local VW Van centre (who shall remain nameless) had an absolute horror of a Service Consultant there for a couple of years. Combined with that, every time I detailed additional jobs I'd like done with the MOT and Service when they called, they took the full two days and not once had time for any of the requested jobs.
Got to love a good independent garage, same with our Disco 4 owned since new, we've used RCV in East Peckham for a decade. Welded up its four year old exhaust (a known issue with the model, to then anyway) after 12 months of me taking it back to the main dealer repeatedly, idiots. No more headaches - literally... Same exhaust, still. Sorry, I'm ranting.

 

[MarmiteBoy321]

Yup, similar to me in 2014 T5 Cali. In January faults lights showed, continued to drive for a week or two. Was front o/side ABS sensor. Month later, rear n/side went. Couple months later a third time so I got both remaining sensors replaced. All fine ever since. Someone had said in another thread that once one goes, quite often the other ABS sensors can go soon after (get all done in one go to save time/costs a little?).

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Quite a simple job to do yourself, pattern sensors available for around £15-£20 each, Takes about an hour a wheel, if you clean everything as you go, good opportunity to service brakes at same time

 

[WelshGas]

Quite a simple job to do yourself, pattern sensors available for around £15-£20 each, Takes about an hour a wheel, if you clean everything as you go, good opportunity to service brakes at same time

Not simple if the sensors are corroded in. Quit an involved job actually to carefully remove the sensor piecemeal and avoid damage to the hub.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Sensors are plastic casing around a hall effect resistor, hub is metal, corrosion isn't a problem just use a heat gun

 

[WelshGas]

Sensors are plastic casing around a hall effect resistor, hub is metal, corrosion isn't a problem just use a heat gun

And that shows your lack of knowledge regarding changing these sensors that don’t just pop out.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

And that shows your lack of knowledge regarding changing these sensors that don’t just pop out.

Oh My apologies...How many have you actually changed...what lack of knowledge do you perceive.

If they are broken, you break them off, drill a small hole, use an "easy out" to loosen them and apply a gentle heat to break the studlock glue VW like using and then gently tease them out with long nose pliers, hence the 1 hour per wheel. If you are stupid enough to pay your professional for more than an hours labour that is your choice! Metal corrosion does not affect plastic sensors. If they "pop out" then all four can be changed in an hour. That is my Lack of Experience.

 

[WelshGas]

Oh My apologies...How many have you actually changed...what lack of knowledge do you perceive.

If they are broken, you break them off, drill a small hole, use an "easy out" to loosen them and apply a gentle heat to break the studlock glue VW like using and then gently tease them out with long nose pliers, hence the 1 hour per wheel. If you are stupid enough to pay your professional for more than an hours labour that is your choice! Metal corrosion does not affect plastic sensors. If they "pop out" then all four can be changed in an hour. That is my Lack of Experience.

Like I said above. True, corrosion doesn’t affect the sensor per se. I’ve done a few, some easy some very definitely not, and not everyone has your obviously superior knowledge or capabilities.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Like I said above. True, corrosion doesn’t affect the sensor per se. I’ve done a few, some easy some very definitely not, and not everyone has your obviously superior knowledge or capabilities.

If you are enjoying life why are you so Grumpy?

 

[Mike Jenkins]

I’ve replaced just one of these - never again. I have moderate DIY skills (do all home repairs, built a kit car back in the day) but the sensor was very difficult to remove, the new one didn’t insert smoothly and I didn’t feel at all confident that I’d done it properly. Three years later and it’s still working; the other three died within six months of the first and the local indi replaced them. I guess the more you do the better and more confident you get. Personally I have better things to do.