Sliding window security

[Robinho_19781]

Reading a lot about cali's the are being broken into and however you take all your valuables with you it's no fun to come back to your car and see some body broken into your car even if you have an alarm.
I don't know if the alarm work when somebody pops out the sliding windows.
But my GF is a little freaked out about all of this and we seaching on the internet for some kind of a solution we found this https://wolfshund-camping.de/produkt/einbruchschutz-fenstersicherung-vw-t6-1/
I don't know the company and haven't seen any reviews about it, but in the you tube videos that I found from them it seems to work, but still for 2 sliding windows ist still alot of money.
Does anybody over here has any expericans with this item and the company or do you guys have an alternative that I could not find on the internet?
Thank you very much!!

 

[ArunAlec]

Reading a lot about cali's the are being broken into and however you take all your valuables with you it's no fun to come back to your car and see some body broken into your car even if you have an alarm.
I don't know if the alarm work when somebody pops out the sliding windows.
But my GF is a little freaked out about all of this and we seaching on the internet for some kind of a solution we found this https://wolfshund-camping.de/produkt/einbruchschutz-fenstersicherung-vw-t6-1/
I don't know the company and haven't seen any reviews about it, but in the you tube videos that I found from them it seems to work, but still for 2 sliding windows ist still alot of money.
Does anybody over here has any expericans with this item and the company or do you guys have an alternative that I could not find on the internet?
Thank you very much!!

I agree that the side windows are a potential weak point but I don’t think these security bars would really make much difference to a determined thief. It won’t stop them just using a small crowbar to force the window or smashing the glass.
If you have an internal alarm that would be activated if they get in through windows.
Interested to hear others experiences.

 

[WelshGas]

Reading a lot about cali's the are being broken into and however you take all your valuables with you it's no fun to come back to your car and see some body broken into your car even if you have an alarm.
I don't know if the alarm work when somebody pops out the sliding windows.
But my GF is a little freaked out about all of this and we seaching on the internet for some kind of a solution we found this https://wolfshund-camping.de/produkt/einbruchschutz-fenstersicherung-vw-t6-1/
I don't know the company and haven't seen any reviews about it, but in the you tube videos that I found from them it seems to work, but still for 2 sliding windows ist still alot of money.
Does anybody over here has any expericans with this item and the company or do you guys have an alternative that I could not find on the internet?
Thank you very much!!

The internal alarm is triggered if anything moves within the vehicle. Even a fly can trigger the alarm. Of course the Internal alarm has to be on for that to work.
Also, I believe in some European countries the alarm is an Optional Extra on new vehicles, unlike the U.K.

 

[Robinho_19781]

The internal alarm is triggered if anything moves within the vehicle. Even a fly can trigger the alarm. Of course the Internal alarm has to be on for that to work.
Also, I believe in some European countries the alarm is an Optional Extra on new vehicles, unlike the U.K.

Hello WelshGas, we took the option for the extra alarm but it only is for the drivers cabin not the back, you don't have the option for the back anymore.

Volumetric cab alarm with back-up horn and towing protection
382.36 Tax incl. 1
The recommended retail prices listed in the configurator are inclusive of VAT (or exclusive of VAT if specifically mentioned).
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Alarm system with interior monitoring in the driver's cabin, back-up horn and towing alarm
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Central locking with radio remote control, interior operation and safe-keeping

 

[dspuk]

Reading a lot about cali's the are being broken into and however you take all your valuables with you it's no fun to come back to your car and see some body broken into your car even if you have an alarm.
I don't know if the alarm work when somebody pops out the sliding windows.
But my GF is a little freaked out about all of this and we seaching on the internet for some kind of a solution we found this https://wolfshund-camping.de/produkt/einbruchschutz-fenstersicherung-vw-t6-1/
I don't know the company and haven't seen any reviews about it, but in the you tube videos that I found from them it seems to work, but still for 2 sliding windows ist still alot of money.
Does anybody over here has any expericans with this item and the company or do you guys have an alternative that I could not find on the internet?
Thank you very much!!

When you say “reading a lot” do you mean general posts or security firms posting fear, undertainty and doubt? If as many people posted “I’ve not had anything happen” as posted “OMG, guess what happened to me” you would never find the latter so numerous would be the former.

All these outfits have something to sell, which for 99.99% of the time you do not nead and statistically in your lifetime will never need. From window bars to wheel clamps to secret alarms. The fact remains you are statistcially more likely to have an airplane drop on your head than your Cali stolen or broken into. I made that up, but still, we don’t all walk around with crash helmets on and I bet I’m not far wrong.

IMHO - Chill, enjoy your adventures and don’t fret what will likely never happen.

In the meantime

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[dspuk]

Hello WelshGas, we took the option for the extra alarm but it only is for the drivers cabin not the back, you don't have the option for the back anymore.

View attachment 97792Volumetric cab alarm with back-up horn and towing protection
382.36 Tax incl. 1
The recommended retail prices listed in the configurator are inclusive of VAT (or exclusive of VAT if specifically mentioned).
-
Alarm system with interior monitoring in the driver's cabin, back-up horn and towing alarm
-
Central locking with radio remote control, interior operation and safe-keeping

That’s very likely a misnomer and error in the description. That is not how interor alarms work where they detect movement. Car alarms protect your interior of your vehicle by using interior sensors known as ultrasonics or a microwave sensor. These sensors work by detecting a change in area pressure or breaking the invisible electronic field. Once the sensor is tripped the alarm will sound. Unless it was a “van” (where the description likely cut and pasted from) with a partition, the sensor on the roof will protect the whole interior.

 

[ArunAlec]

Hello WelshGas, we took the option for the extra alarm but it only is for the drivers cabin not the back, you don't have the option for the back anymore.

View attachment 97792Volumetric cab alarm with back-up horn and towing protection
382.36 Tax incl. 1
The recommended retail prices listed in the configurator are inclusive of VAT (or exclusive of VAT if specifically mentioned).
-
Alarm system with interior monitoring in the driver's cabin, back-up horn and towing alarm
-
Central locking with radio remote control, interior operation and safe-keeping

I would be inclined to get clarification on the monitoring only being in the drivers cabin. Sounds like it’s referring to a Transporter with a bulkhead between the cargo area and front seats. I would have thought any movement of air within the beach would be picked up by the sensor/s.

 

[Meoncoast]

Having locked our van and returning from the shower block before my other half and having left the keys with her I put my hand it the sliding window to open the side door! The second my hand went in off went the alarm. Happy to only wake up a few caravan owners.

 

[Robinho_19781]

Having locked our van and returning from the shower block before my other half and having left the keys with her I put my hand it the sliding window to open the side door! The second my hand went in off went the alarm. Happy to only wake up a few caravan owners.

Just to know what version of Cali do you have and what year?
Because what you did we tried

 

[Robinho_19781]

When you say “reading a lot” do you mean general posts or security firms posting fear, undertainty and doubt? If as many people posted “I’ve not had anything happen” as posted “OMG, guess what happened to me” you would never find the latter so numerous would be the former.

All these outfits have something to sell, which for 99.99% of the time you do not nead and statistically in your lifetime will never need. From window bars to wheel clamps to secret alarms. The fact remains you are statistcially more likely to have an airplane drop on your head that your Cali stolen or broken into. I made that up, but still, we don’t all walk around with crash helmets on and I bet I’m not far wrong.

IMHO - Chill, enjoy your adventures and don’t fret what will likely never happen.

In the meantime

JSP EVO2 Mid Peak Slip-Ratchet Vented Safety Helmet Yellow - Screwfix

Order online at Screwfix.com. Modern shell style helmet with 3-point height adjustment on rear of harness, and 2-point adjustment on front. Fitted with ventilation holes and inner adjustable harness to aid comfort. For low to moderate risk environments. One size fits all. FREE next day delivery...

www.screwfix.com

I know there are more bad experiences on forum than good. maybe I just have to stop reading forum posts

 

[Meoncoast]

Just to know what version of Cali do you have and what year?
Because what you did we tried

T6 2016, did it work for you or not

 

[Poodlehat2222]

The internal alarm is triggered if anything moves within the vehicle. Even a fly can trigger the alarm. Of course the Internal alarm has to be on for that to work.
Also, I believe in some European countries the alarm is an Optional Extra on new vehicles, unlike the U.K.

I can vouch for the fact that anything in the van will set the alarm off. Mine went off 2 nights in a row after our last trip. Eventually found a small moth flying about......obviously only came out when it got dark.

 

[two-saabs]

The internal alarm is triggered if anything moves within the vehicle. Even a fly can trigger the alarm. Of course the Internal alarm has to be on for that to work.
Also, I believe in some European countries the alarm is an Optional Extra on new vehicles, unlike the U.K.

Confirmed, optional extra in Switzerland (I added it after reading some stories here, and my dealer still couldn’t understand why)

 

[kurienp]

Well, you have sufficient feedback on the motion sensor/alarm.

Now if you really want to beef up security look at the following:
1. Rear door Window/Glass - usually that is where we dump any of our general use "stuff" such as laptops etc when at a campsite. The rear door window - if it has the cycle rack attached, makes breaking the glass and taking things from inside the van a bit more cumbersome. So not very easy.

2. The two side windows after the C pillar.
2a The one on the passenger side (UK) opens into the rear cupboard, where we do store items. If that glass is broken, they do get direct access to the rear cupboard. To secure, you weld a piece of metal inside to the body so that access is restricted.
2b the one on the drivers side, again, you can protect the rear area by welding a piece of metal sheet to the body. The standard transporter panel van comes with a solid body at that place.

3. The two windows after the B Pillar - nothing much you can do about this other than keep all items well away from prying eyes so that you can prevent the opportunist thief from a performing a break in. This is very similar to that in a car. Nothing much you would do to your car to increase security of the windows.

4. The front driver and passenger windows - again, you would not do much to these ...

... what you could though do is ... to darken the windows to keep prying eyes away from the inside of the van ... and the window tint/film will make breaking the glass that much more difficult.

Enjoy the van.

 

[kave]

Confirmed, optional extra in Switzerland (I added it after reading some stories here, and my dealer still couldn’t understand why)

Here in Sweden most security firms never order the standard alarm system in their cars but third party alarms instead because it is supposedly harder to trick.

 

[pcevanrulo]

Here in Sweden most security firms never order the standard alarm system in their cars but third party alarms instead because it is supposedly harder to trick.

Same in The Netherlands. The standard alarm isn't in the list for insurance companies. They want you to have a bearlock and OBD-vault in stead of an alarm..

 

[Lambeth Cali]

I don't recall reading many stories on this forum of vans being broken into or thefts in general.

Where I live, thefts from cars was a frequent problem in the 1990s. I had a car have its windows smashed twice. I haven't left anything valuable in a car or our van since. My wife bans ipads etc from our camping holidays. I have sympathy for people who need laptops.

I can only say what I've said many times before - in 13 years camping in our California, we have only ever had 1 tea light holder disappear. I suppose we camp in fairly nice campsites.

 

[pluc99]

I'm not impressed by this Wolfshund device. In one of their videos they make visibly less effort to demonstrate a break in with the device installed than they did without, which smacks of dishonesty. Regardless of that, in my opinion, installing such a device will only increase the damage to the vehicle when a thief does decide to break in.

 

[andrew bazeley]

I agree that you rarely hear of Calis being broken into.Admittedly, there is a bit of a fear if you're camping with the roof raised, and need to go out, then you have to switch off the interior alarm. But then on most of these occasions, you are on a campsite, and you rarely hear of break-ins on a campsite. I had my jacket stolen with my wallet in it once. But then I was camping in a very remote little private blues festival site in the Welsh Valleys, and didn't lock the doors! Some local kids invaded in the middle of the night, and nicked things from all of the tents and vans!

 

[WelshGas]

On site with roof up, I just lower the roof bed, close the hatch and leave the interior alarm On. Never had a problem. Tested by Leaving roof up on drive at home for 3 days. No Alarm.

 

[andrew bazeley]

On site with roof up, I just lower the roof bed, close the hatch and leave the interior alarm On. Never had a problem. Tested by Leaving roof up on drive at home for 3 days. No Alarm.

Ooh - thanks for that. I've always fancied testing that, but didn't want to risk it!

 

[ejmoore]

On site with roof up, I just lower the roof bed, close the hatch and leave the interior alarm On. Never had a problem. Tested by Leaving roof up on drive at home for 3 days. No Alarm.

We just leave the roof up & generally bed pushed up & lock the van as normal, & go out for the day. Alarm has never gone off in either van over ten years. Wonder if it even works - however, am not about to test it on the campsite, though someone else's alarm was going off repeatedly this morning.

 

[WelshGas]

We just leave the roof up & generally bed pushed up & lock the van as normal, & go out for the day. Alarm has never gone off in either van over ten years. Wonder if it even works - however, am not about to test it on the campsite, though someone else's alarm was going off repeatedly this morning.

I've left the van on the drive with roof and bed up and not had the alarm go off. I have a suspicion that possibly the interior alarm may be disabled when the roof is up. I haven't been bothered to test that hypothesis.

 

[ejmoore]

I think it can go off when the roof is up, because one time on a campsite years ago we arrived late at night & I was paranoid about the alarm going off, so I was playing about trying to work out how to set the deadlock without the alarm, and the bloody thing went off. Luckily we were in the late arrivals area outside the campsite. I don't know why I was doing it as I know better than to put the deadlock on from inside the van - always lock it with the rocker switch on the driver's door! Actually we seldom lock it at night anyway.

 

[ejmoore]

I think it can go off when the roof is up, because one time on a campsite years ago we arrived late at night & I was paranoid about the alarm going off, so I was playing about trying to work out how to set the deadlock without the alarm, and the bloody thing went off. Luckily we were in the late arrivals area outside the campsite. I don't know why I was doing it as I know better than to put the deadlock on from inside the van - always lock it with the rocker switch on the driver's door! Actually we seldom lock it at night anyway.

I'll test it out sometime when we're in a remote location.