T1 for sale at auction

[GrumpyGranddad]

Spotted this nice looking T1 up for grabs. Current bid is £20,500
Very unusual interior layout.

 

[Hawthorn37]

If that was on sale now, as a new van, I’d be first in the queue! Unbelievably beautiful, and practical. I guess VW designers have both a great back catalogue, and at the same time, massive pressure to improve !

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Love a splittie. Miss mine.

Having rented one last year and a bay window, I decided my vintage bus days were in the past and plumped for a T6.1

Much more practical. But so much less charm

 

[KevH]

Oozes soul, love it.
Sadly our Cali will never match that aspect of the old buses.

 

[willwander]

Pretty, but couldn’t afford the bills

 

[KevH]

5 hours remaining and still only £22k offered.
Looks like somebody may get a bargain
Can’t help but think this is a lousy time to sell your beloved bus at auction

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Wi

5 hours remaining and still only £22k offered.
Looks like somebody may get a bargain
Can’t help but think this is a lousy time to sell your beloved bus at auction

Worst time. Vintage VW bus market had been ahead of the curve of the already declining classics market.

I had my eye on a Splittie or Bay before admitting defeat & ordering an Ocean. They are a long way off their peak and still dropping.

 

[KevH]

Wi

Worst time. Vintage VW bus market had been ahead of the curve of the already declining classics market.

I had my eye on a Splittie or Bay before admitting defeat & ordering an Ocean. They are a long way off their peak and still dropping.

Totally agree.
I sold a 1969 Bay in 2018 for £17k, but would easily have got £20k had I sold 12 months earlier. Then again, the market went bonkers during the lockdown period but I’d have been deemed mad to predict that coming.
It is the cost of upkeep that dents the wallet, the battle with rust being a constant.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Totally agree.
I sold a 1969 Bay in 2018 for £17k, but would easily have got £20k had I sold 12 months earlier. Then again, the market went bonkers during the lockdown period but I’d have been deemed mad to predict that coming.
It is the cost of upkeep that dents the wallet, the battle with rust being a constant.

The lockdown boom was crazy. I saw very ordinary splitties selling for £40-60k

Like you say, keeping them on the road and the rust at bay is a constant battle.

I drove a couple of bays around the full coast of Australia and owned a 66 split for years. But the prices went bonkers and having rented one recently, I decided I couldn’t live with the unreliability & slow pace on family trips.

We tried a water-cooled Brazilian Bay, but it just didn’t tick the vintage charm nor modern reliability boxes.

 

[Corradobrit]

Like you say, keeping them on the road and the rust at bay is a constant battle.

Wouldn't a good underseal treatment address that problem? Once and done?

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Wouldn't a good underseal treatment address that problem? Once and done?

Lots of work is hacking off old under seal applied on rusty chassis. Hiding a multitude of sins.

Lots of poorly prepped resprays out there too,tons of bubbling around seams & seals.

Lower doors rot. Replacement body parts are expensive & decent body shops are ££££

 

[KevH]

Lots of work is hacking off old under seal applied on rusty chassis. Hiding a multitude of sins.

Lots of poorly prepped resprays out there too,tons of bubbling around seams & seals.

Lower doors rot. Replacement body parts are expensive & decent body shops are ££££

Yes, it isn’t necessarily only the floor/underside that rots, its the light surrounds, door bottoms, around the windscreen, etc.
Fact is, steel bodies rust despite whatever you throw at them. Would be cheaper to cover them in new plastic tenners

 

[JuanVecino2023]

This is a rather ambitious price, but looks well finished. The 1776cc & IRS will make a much more useable prospect.

I like laying the kitchen unit out along the bulkhead as it’s not a walkthrough van.

But for an aftermarket conversion that is a coveted Westfalia, Devon etc, it’s a huge price.

That pop top is IMHO one of the better arrangements as it lets in tons of light and creates a really useable space.

Look at this post on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/share/CTgU4ZAsxxTnYsHo/?mibextid=79PoIi

 

[Leevelknievel]

This is a beauty it's been up for sale recently
It didn't reach reserve at what I think was £45k at the last bid

 

[sdes]

It’s a T2 btw, a type 1 is a beetle.

 

[Corradobrit]

It’s a T2 btw, a type 1 is a beetle.

Actually a T1 is also a Bus. (Bulli)

 

[sdes]

Really?

VW Type System Designations Explained -

Understanding the VW Type System will assist you to communicate with fellow Aircooled VW enthusiasts, and to decipher classic Volkswagen part numbers.

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[Corradobrit]

Really?

VW Type System Designations Explained -

Understanding the VW Type System will assist you to communicate with fellow Aircooled VW enthusiasts, and to decipher classic Volkswagen part numbers.

www.aircooled.net

Yep

Per Wikipedia
The VW T1, more precisely VW Type 2 T1, also called Bulli

So GG was correct calling it a T1 but if he had called it a Type 1 he would have been incorrect. Nobody refers to these Buses as Type X.

 

[sdes]

Better not tell the type 2 owners club then!

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[Corradobrit]

VW's naming and numbering is crazy. Best not to think too much about it. After all people are calling the MV Cali Concept the T7 FFS.

 

[sdes]

Hmnn, I stand corrected. So if that is the Type 2 T1, then what is the earlier Type 2, the “barn door” version with the big engine bay door called?
Is that a T0?

 

[aeicalifornia]

It’s a T2 btw, a type 1 is a beetle.

Type 1 - beetle
Type 2 - van
T1........T7 - subcategories of Type 2 (T coming from Transporter and first used with T4 and then applied retrospectively.

 

[aeicalifornia]

Hmnn, I stand corrected. So if that is the Type 2 T1, then what is the earlier Type 2, the “barn door” version with the big engine bay door called?
Is that a T0?

the T1 designation of Type2 applies for production years 1950-1967, so the barn door is also a T1, sometimes called T1a.

 

[sdes]

Ah, thank you.
So they used a character to distinguish the early variants of similar body and then switched to a decimal point and numeral in more recent models - just to keep it confusing!