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Van theft - a cautionary tale

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You’ve got to layer up security.
Make life as hard as possible. Obstacles, quality locking and alarms systems.
Finally, good insurance...

Don’t bother with trackers and cameras.
Complete waste of money.
My thoughts are, once it’s gone, I don’t want it back.
It’s tainted...

It’s about putting them off or making it difficult. If they’re determined enough. Whatever they have their eye on, is going...
What do you use @soulstyledevon?
I read mention of VIN chips above. £35 sounds worth considering, but 10 highly visible labels stuck around the van isn’t ideal
 
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What’s the common thread here WG? Oh, it’s you! ;)
The common thread is " Don't depend on others for security". The fact you have a tall fence, a gate and security guards helps but if you take your vehicle out? You can become very complacent about security.
 
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The common thread is " Don't depend on others for security". The fact you have a tall fence, a gate and security guards helps but if you take your vehicle out? You can become very complacent about security.

Of course the risk increases if you leave your house but the underlying theme of this thread was theft from your home while parked on the drive.


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I agree, but 12ft high walls, steering locks, CCTV, guard dogs whatever aren't taken with you when you leave the house, so you need a system to minimise risk of theft wherever you are. Professional car thieves will wait for an opportune moment, wherever.
You can only really mitigate against the opportunist/joy rider. I don't think many Californias are the subject of opportunistic /joyrider thefts.
 
GrumpyGranddad

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You’ve got to layer up security.
Make life as hard as possible. Obstacles, quality locking and alarms systems.
Finally, good insurance...

Don’t bother with trackers and cameras.
Complete waste of money.
My thoughts are, once it’s gone, I don’t want it back.
It’s tainted...

It’s about putting them off or making it difficult. If they’re determined enough. Whatever they have their eye on, is going...
If you mean dashcams are a waste of money I have to disagree. Slightly off topic but a member on here recently got t-boned at a junction and his dashcam footage was invaluable in his insurance claim.
 
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What do you use @soulstyledevon?
I read mention of VIN chips above. £35 sounds worth considering, but 10 highly visible labels stuck around the van isn’t ideal
The window labels are very subtle. Not noticeable unless you look hard. They have your personal reference number on them. The only ‘highly visible’ label is in the windscreen and includes a QR code for police scanning.
 
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If you mean dashcams are a waste of money I have to disagree. Slightly off topic but a member on here recently got t-boned at a junction and his dashcam footage was invaluable in his insurance claim.

Soon after I bought my van I had someone scrape the near side by undertaking shortly before a bus lane. He claimed I was responsible- I won’t go into the details now, but it is fully documented in another thread. No dashcam.

Then just under six months into ownership in the Polish town of Swidnica white van man reversed into me at red lights to try to extort cash from me, claiming I had rear ended him. Try to prove what happened without a dashcam! (The Polish police -bless ‘em- found CCTV footage and not only did the driver have to pay for the damage to Amarillo but was prosecuted and found guilty of dangerous driving.)

Soon after that second crash I had a dashcam fitted. Apart from a puncture, Amarillo has suffered no damage since.

Proof, if proof is needed, that dashcams do work, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
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Good morning,

That must have been a terrible experience for the lady getting her van stohlen.

We live in the country as well. From day one I actually feel saver than in the town we use to live (have I said that it was there very save). We have an electric gate and on purpose ensured that there is no high growing plants blocking the view from the house to the road and neighbours. This has the advantage that I would pick up if somebody is hanging around (even at night, expect they hide in black cloth in the dark, of course).

I always have an eye out because dogs get stohlen out of the gardens and because of this I don't like people "hanging around" at the fence / gate. Our Bison Frise is our "baby".

Have I said all that, I see two other problems. If the camper gets stohlen it is not only a terrible experience, but has many other implications.
First I don't want to even know how much I will get from the insurance company. Certainly it won't be enought to buy a replacement. I woulnd't be able to afford to finance a 4 or 5 digit figure on top of the insuranc money to replace the California. That would be then end of this.
Second, we all know that there is a shortage not only on Californias but on all campers. Even if I had enough money, would I get a replacment halfway in the way I like it? I doubt that.

Also there is the security not only at home, but when we are out and about (well, when the lockdown is lifted). I am far more nervous to park on a quite car park and go for a hike for 4 or 5 hours. We all try to go where it is remote, quite and only a few (or no) people. If I would be a thief I would target those places (and not homes).

I believe Ghost is the best alternative (maybe Pandora Pro Car Alarm). I have to look into it. Beside the price what stops me is that it might cause to much inconvinience during normal day-to-day use.

Save and secure California,
Eberhard
 
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Now you see I'm just going round and round in circles with security. I'd gone off the idea of a tracker for the reason you gave but if my friend had a tracker surely she would have located the van sooner rather than the 'luck' she had that someone spotted suspicious activity in a church car park??
Again with ghost keys I'm going round in circles and currently put off with the idea of waking up to someone in my room demanding the key code :sad
Good point.
Ive settled on getting the Disclok & have hopefully disguised my brand new van with a 5 year old number plate.
I can see its only going to get worse tbh
Also I do online Ocado shopping!!
 
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We park Amarillo on an open driveway in S. London (Lewisham/Greenwich border). We don’t take any special precautions.
Same for us, we live in a hammerhead cul-de-sac and our security is Mrs L at nr. 29, Mrs R at nr. 9, Mrs S at nr. 19 and Mrs F at nr. 25. Couldn't ask for better.
We once arrived home from a long European trip at 2.00 a.m. and Mrs F was round to investigate before we had been able to unlock the front door!

Physical deterrents like clamps and steering locks are not going to prevent the type of theft described by the OP.
 
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Same for us, we live in a hammerhead cul-de-sac and our security is Mrs L at nr. 29, Mrs R at nr. 9, Mrs S at nr. 19 and Mrs F at nr. 25. Couldn't ask for better.
We once arrived home from a long European trip at 2.00 a.m. and Mrs F was round to investigate before we had been able to unlock the front door!

Nosey neighbours can be a great asset, but none batted an eyelid when some scrote/scrotes cut out the catalytic converter from under my Peugeot 406 while parked on the road with a “for sale” notice.
 
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Having seen an Ocean recently that turned out to be a transporter with the camper par
In my 9 years service I’ve never heard of vehicles being stolen from any camps I’ve been on


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did have a tank go missing once, but it didn't get past the front gate!
 
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Good point.
Ive settled on getting the Disclok & have hopefully disguised my brand new van with a 5 year old number plate.
I can see its only going to get worse tbh
Also I do online Ocado shopping!!
All the professional scumbags have to do is type your reg into the DVLA website, on their smartphone, and they’ll know exactly when it was first registered etc etc.
 
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All the professional scumbags have to do is type your reg into the DVLA website, on their smartphone, and they’ll know exactly when it was first registered etc etc.
Yes they can but it can only ever be about extra deterrents & that in my mind is also one, whilst also not broadcasting I have a brand new vehicle which doesnt feel right in both personal & economic climate.
 
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Good point.
Ive settled on getting the Disclok & have hopefully disguised my brand new van with a 5 year old number plate.
I can see its only going to get worse tbh
Also I do online Ocado shopping!!
I dont thinking I'm going to be fooling anyone with a 2004 plate :headbang but at least it's not broadcasting that it's brand new
 
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Now you see I'm just going round and round in circles with security. I'd gone off the idea of a tracker for the reason you gave but if my friend had a tracker surely she would have located the van sooner rather than the 'luck' she had that someone spotted suspicious activity in a church car park??
Again with ghost keys I'm going round in circles and currently put off with the idea of waking up to someone in my room demanding the key code :sad
I read the same views on the forums for car like VW Golf R and Audi RS3, security and then being threatened for the codes / keys etc. the general view was keys not near the access doors but not in the bedroom. If they break-into the house while you are asleep then for me they can have it.
would consider CCTV for evidence.
 
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Given the very low cost of insurance for a high value vehicle, my assumption would be that theft isn’t seen as a massive problem by the insurance companies. Ive had a vehicle stolen in the past and have to say that from that experience, once it’s gone I really don’t want it back. Pay me the money and I’ll get a new one. I haven’t been asked to fit a tracker, and won’t unless it becomes a requirement. Common sense security of course, good visible deterents where possible, and good insurance; but I’m not going to argue with a couple of guys with a crowbar or worse if they want the van, so a Ghost without advertising the fact it’s fitted, isn’t for me either.
 
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I dont thinking I'm going to be fooling anyone with a 2004 plate :headbang but at least it's not broadcasting that it's brand new
Unless you retro fit a T6 front end then anyone who knows anything about Transporters will know it's pretty new.
 
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Same for us, we live in a hammerhead cul-de-sac and our security is Mrs L at nr. 29, Mrs R at nr. 9, Mrs S at nr. 19 and Mrs F at nr. 25. Couldn't ask for better.
We once arrived home from a long European trip at 2.00 a.m. and Mrs F was round to investigate before we had been able to unlock the front door!

Physical deterrents like clamps and steering locks are not going to prevent the type of theft described by the OP.
We also are lucky enough to live at the end of a cul-de-sac, and admit that I'm rather blase about security. Having read this thread I'm now starting to worry about it more.

We've got a new van order, so I think I will look into to the insurance aspect. Anyone know the best insurance approach to get good cover should it get stolen.
I seem to remember our last van was insured with Comfort, they offered a new van replacement should it be stolen within the first 12 months.
 
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We also are lucky enough to live at the end of a cul-de-sac, and admit that I'm rather blase about security. Having read this thread I'm now starting to worry about it more.

We've got a new van order, so I think I will look into to the insurance aspect. Anyone know the best insurance approach to get good cover should it get stolen.
I seem to remember our last van was insured with Comfort, they offered a new van replacement should it be stolen within the first 12 months.
I've looked at a few and Comfort are proving the best cover wise so far, offering new van replacement for 3 years and 3k contents. They have quoted me £800 though despite having a perfectly clean driving history and no claims. Admiral are the cheapest quoting £450 but it's not specialist campervan cover I don't think. I think I'm going to have to go for the Comfort one given this recent theft..
 

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