As background to why the Ocean/SE was the right choice for us we have wild camped and backpacked as young adults in all seasons, then with young children school holidays in family tents across UK and Europe. Now the kids have thankfully struck out on their own in life we are able to travel in the off season, the ability to arrive on a wild wet and windy campsite in October on the Scottish west coast and just pop the roof, put the heater on open the wine/beer from the fridge and cook a meal without going outside is the the best reason to buy a California. An Ocean/SE does this by design but of course you can configure a Beach to do this (OK I lied you have to go out to turn the gas on)