Gas hob kettle and stovetop coffee

[Lambeth Cali]

If I filled the coffee bit to the top the coffee would be unbearably strong. Ours is Bialetti and agree to water just below the valve.

 

[chockswahay]

Agree with the last two posts. Another alternative for milk is this thing: Aerolatte. Two double AAs last for ages.

IKEA sell virtually the same thing for about a pound. I have used one for a few years now but compared to the cafetière method I find the milk turns frothy as opposed to a nice creamy micro foam

 

[chockswahay]

If I filled the coffee bit to the top the coffee would be unbearably strong. Ours is Bialetti and agree to water just below the valve.

Nah the coffee bit MUST be filled to the brim in order to pressurise the puck. If it is too strong just add hot water Americano style

 

[Californication69]

I just want something as per KISS for a fresh brew in the morning.
I guess I’ll have to go Nespresso pod

 

[yossarian]

I just want something as per KISS for a fresh brew in the morning.
I guess I’ll have to go Nespresso pod

Moka can make a nice cup but it's certainly not KISS. Nespresso hooked up to 220V is very simple consistent and usually very satisfactory. I'm not sold on the fiddly battery or hand pumped nespresso units. Mess is another factor against moka and for Nespresso.

 

[Californication69]

Moka can make a nice cup but it's certainly not KISS. Nespresso hooked up to 220V is very simple consistent and usually very satisfactory. I'm not sold on the fiddly battery or hand pumped nespresso units. Mess is another factor against moka and for Nespresso.

But which one? Pixie or Citiz ?
Is Pixie less than 300w for using on the inverter.
Or will a 6.1 inverter fry the Nespresso. ?

 

[yossarian]

But which one? Pixie or Citiz ?
Is Pixie less than 300w for using on the inverter.
Or will a 6.1 inverter fry the Nespresso. ?

Forget about running anything that heats water from the inverter. There are too many problems and the underlying physics is improbable. Hookup or plan b.

 

[Californication69]

Forget about running anything that heats water from the inverter. There are too many problems and the underlying physics is improbable. Hookup or plan b.

Ahhh man.
Plan B is instant or French press….

 

[yossarian]

Ahhh man.
Plan B is instant or French press….

So at this point you have some messy brown swill in a cup, you're considering offing yourself and it's back to: learn how to make a decent moka.

Been there done that.

 

[Californication69]

So at this point you have some messy brown swill in a cup, you're considering offing yourself and it's back to: learn how to make a decent moka.

Been there done that.

Teach me the ways of the Mokka

 

[yossarian]

Teach me the ways of the Mokka

To me @chockswahay sounds like the guru. You've got a good start with the two cup version -- they make better coffee.

Not mentioned so far is to inspect the seal and be careful not to melt it.

I will usually remove mine from the heat when the coffee starts to flow. That's gives you consistent and unburnt coffee if perhaps a little underextracted.

Practice, practice practice. Never leave the pot unattended.

 

[yossarian]

Moka tip #476: wipe the metal surround of the coffee puck with your finger before screwing it shut. Leaks in this area can cause spluttering and overheated coffee.

 

[chockswahay]

To me @chockswahay sounds like the guru. You've got a good start with the two cup version -- they make better coffee.

Not mentioned so far is to inspect the seal and be careful not to melt it.

I will usually remove mine from the heat when the coffee starts to flow. That's gives you consistent and unburnt coffee if perhaps a little underextracted.

Practice, practice practice. Never leave the pot unattended.

Haha, not me! However you could do worse than watch this video……..

 

[chockswahay]

Haha, not me! However you could do worse than watch this video……..

Or……. If you have the time and want to enter the nerd zone (but in a good way)

 

[yossarian]

Or……. If you have the time and want to enter the nerd zone (but in a good way)

Very entertaining. One thing he missed is that air obeys Gay-Lussac's law whilst the H2O behaves as a saturated gas. Long story short: underfilling the tank could give you a higher working pressure at lower temperatures.

This would also help to explain his results with hot water in the tank. The saturated water vapour is displacing the ideal gas.

These days I only use the moka out and about...

 

[camper albert]

I bought the 9barista MK2 this summer and went 4 weeks on trip with it. I can only say it makes amazing coffee. Really at par with my ECM machine at home. Once you tried a few times to find the proper grinding the espresso is perfect. It's my best accessory for the Cali.

 

[wildslammer22]

I bought the 9barista MK2 this summer and went 4 weeks on trip with it. I can only say it makes amazing coffee. Really at par with my ECM machine at home. Once you tried a few times to find the proper grinding the espresso is perfect. It's my best accessory for the Cali.

Been eyeing one of those to add to my coffee quiver but can’t really justify the cost. For 'expresso like' coffee I’ve gone from moka pot, to Bellman and then a Leverpresso Pro. The latter produced the best results but is on a par with the Bellman for faff quotient. I’ve settled on the Outin with the pro basket (up to 18gm of coffee) as the sweet spot for quality to faff ratio!

 

[camper albert]

I was looking at the Outin too, because of the more attractive pricing and powerless option. What made me hesitate is the batteries and mechanics. As with all batteries they last only a few years and then they need replacement. For the mechanics I cannot speak out but I assume it will only last for some years too. I tried to find one in a shop to have a look and feel but I didn't succeed.
The 9barista on the other hand is build like a tank. If you don't melt it, it will last over generations. Even if you drop it or stand on it nothing will happen. But don't drop it on your foot, it might be in pain seriously. Only a few standard o-rings might need replacement after ageing.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Don't drink coffee but a Trangia Kettle is the best

 

[Wannabecamperman]

Forget about running anything that heats water from the inverter. There are too many problems and the underlying physics is improbable. Hookup or plan b.

Plan B being a power bank of which I am a huge fan, when travelling, for all things electrical.

 

[wildslammer22]

I was looking at the Outin too, because of the more attractive pricing and powerless option. What made me hesitate is the batteries and mechanics. As with all batteries they last only a few years and then they need replacement. For the mechanics I cannot speak out but I assume it will only last for some years too. I tried to find one in a shop to have a look and feel but I didn't succeed.
The 9barista on the other hand is build like a tank. If you don't melt it, it will last over generations. Even if you drop it or stand on it nothing will happen. But don't drop it on your foot, it might be in pain seriously. Only a few standard o-rings might need replacement after ageing.

It does look like an heirloom bit of kit! I don’t use the Outin to heat water so I’m not putting any wear on the heating element etc which has the biggest draw on the battery. I’ve not actually needed to recharge it yet after around 30-40 uses. It feels pretty solidly built, I’m sure it's not engineered like the 9Barista but I hope to get some decent longevity out of it.

 

[wildslammer22]

Don't drink coffee but a Trangia Kettle is the best

My Trangia is 35 years old and still going strong!

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Been eyeing one of those to add to my coffee quiver but can’t really justify the cost. For 'expresso like' coffee I’ve gone from moka pot, to Bellman and then a Leverpresso Pro. The latter produced the best results but is on a par with the Bellman for faff quotient. I’ve settled on the Outin with the pro basket (up to 18gm of coffee) as the sweet spot for quality to faff ratio!

Good god man, what’s wrong with a bit of sap gnawed with bare teeth from some oak bark?

You’ve gone all hipster soft in your dotage. You’ll have a topknot next.

 

[wildslammer22]

Good god man, what’s wrong with a bit of sap gnawed with bare teeth from some oak bark?

You’ve gone all hipster soft in your dotage. You’ll have a topknot next.

In my defence I did gnaw an espresso mug out of an oak tree branch

 

[JuanVecino2023]

In my defence I did gnaw an espresso mug out of an oak tree branch

You are regaining some lost credibility.

Please go howl at the moon and make your next espresso on a trenching tool over an open fire.

Redemption awaits.