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180 biturbo, is it the egr or cooler that corrodes, or both

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Hi. Im thinking of getting a new EGR valve, as a preventative measure on my 2015 SE that has a C suffix EGR. Do I need to get the cooler changed aswell. Ive seen pics of the corrosion , and it looks more like its in the cooler veins, but im no sure. Thanks
 
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Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit
 
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Hi. Im thinking of getting a new EGR valve, as a preventative measure on my 2015 SE that has a C suffix EGR. Do I need to get the cooler changed aswell. Ive seen pics of the corrosion , and it looks more like its in the cooler veins, but im no sure. Thanks
It’s supposedly the EGR cooler.

2014 180 on 115,000 miles. Oil consumption between services 0mls. Original EGR valve and cooler. No suffix.

I would suggest, if you believe the theory, having an oil analysis done.
 
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It’s supposedly the EGR cooler.

2014 180 on 115,000 miles. Oil consumption between services 0mls. Original EGR valve and cooler. No suffix.

I would suggest, if you believe the theory, having an oil analysis done.


I thought you had a new EGR valve at 900 miles?
 
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Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit
Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit
It’s supposedly the EGR cooler.

2014 180 on 115,000 miles. Oil consumption between services 0mls. Original EGR valve and cooler. No suffix.

I would suggest, if you believe the theory, having an oil analysis done.
I have had an oil analysis, it’s normal, but I thought as soon as that shows a problem the damage has started. And I’m at 40,000 miles. Problems tend to start around 60 I read. Do you not think it is a problem then?
 
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I thought you had a new EGR valve at 900 miles?
Yes, but that was fitted 2 weeks after I picked it up, and that was due to an electrical fault . so it was a 2014 EGR from stock. So as far as I am concerned that was the EGR the vehicle came with. The vehicle has done 115,000 miles the EGR 114,100 miles.

I , personally, do not think the EGR is the root cause of the problem. It is a symptom. Otherwise EVERY 180 would suffer this problem.They do not.

There is a combination of circumstances that cause the alloy cooling fins to breakdown releasing Al particles that damage the engine. Driving style, oil contamination, excess heat or a cool engine. Most vehicles that are affected, post 2012MY { different problem 2010/2011 engines } are a relatively low milage for a commercial vehicle and are not run regularly .
 
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Yes, but that was fitted 2 weeks after I picked it up, and that was due to an electrical fault . so it was a 2014 EGR from stock. So as far as I am concerned that was the EGR the vehicle came with. The vehicle has done 115,000 miles the EGR 114,100 miles.

I , personally, do not think the EGR is the root cause of the problem. It is a symptom. Otherwise EVERY 180 would suffer this problem.They do not.

There is a combination of circumstances that cause the alloy cooling fins to breakdown releasing Al particles that damage the engine. Driving style, oil contamination, excess heat or a cool engine. Most vehicles that are affected, post 2012MY { different problem 2010/2011 engines } are a relatively low milage for a commercial vehicle and are not run regularly .
Sounds a bit like Triggers brush to me
 
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