180 biturbo, is it the egr or cooler that corrodes, or both

[CYCLOPATH]

Hi. Im thinking of getting a new EGR valve, as a preventative measure on my 2015 SE that has a C suffix EGR. Do I need to get the cooler changed aswell. Ive seen pics of the corrosion , and it looks more like its in the cooler veins, but im no sure. Thanks

 

[pjm-84]

Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit

 

[WelshGas]

Hi. Im thinking of getting a new EGR valve, as a preventative measure on my 2015 SE that has a C suffix EGR. Do I need to get the cooler changed aswell. Ive seen pics of the corrosion , and it looks more like its in the cooler veins, but im no sure. Thanks

It’s supposedly the EGR cooler.

2014 180 on 115,000 miles. Oil consumption between services 0mls. Original EGR valve and cooler. No suffix.

I would suggest, if you believe the theory, having an oil analysis done.

 

[Califorian]

It’s supposedly the EGR cooler.

2014 180 on 115,000 miles. Oil consumption between services 0mls. Original EGR valve and cooler. No suffix.

I would suggest, if you believe the theory, having an oil analysis done.

I thought you had a new EGR valve at 900 miles?

 

[CYCLOPATH]

Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit

Is there a non Vw replacement that doesn’t have the same problem?

 

[CYCLOPATH]

Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit

Cooler fins are the culprit. D cooler is better but not completely 100%. Tamfet kit

It’s supposedly the EGR cooler.

2014 180 on 115,000 miles. Oil consumption between services 0mls. Original EGR valve and cooler. No suffix.

I would suggest, if you believe the theory, having an oil analysis done.

I have had an oil analysis, it’s normal, but I thought as soon as that shows a problem the damage has started. And I’m at 40,000 miles. Problems tend to start around 60 I read. Do you not think it is a problem then?

 

[WelshGas]

I thought you had a new EGR valve at 900 miles?

Yes, but that was fitted 2 weeks after I picked it up, and that was due to an electrical fault . so it was a 2014 EGR from stock. So as far as I am concerned that was the EGR the vehicle came with. The vehicle has done 115,000 miles the EGR 114,100 miles.

I , personally, do not think the EGR is the root cause of the problem. It is a symptom. Otherwise EVERY 180 would suffer this problem.They do not.

There is a combination of circumstances that cause the alloy cooling fins to breakdown releasing Al particles that damage the engine. Driving style, oil contamination, excess heat or a cool engine. Most vehicles that are affected, post 2012MY { different problem 2010/2011 engines } are a relatively low milage for a commercial vehicle and are not run regularly .

 

[Califorian]

Yes, but that was fitted 2 weeks after I picked it up, and that was due to an electrical fault . so it was a 2014 EGR from stock. So as far as I am concerned that was the EGR the vehicle came with. The vehicle has done 115,000 miles the EGR 114,100 miles.

I , personally, do not think the EGR is the root cause of the problem. It is a symptom. Otherwise EVERY 180 would suffer this problem.They do not.

There is a combination of circumstances that cause the alloy cooling fins to breakdown releasing Al particles that damage the engine. Driving style, oil contamination, excess heat or a cool engine. Most vehicles that are affected, post 2012MY { different problem 2010/2011 engines } are a relatively low milage for a commercial vehicle and are not run regularly .

Sounds a bit like Triggers brush to me

 

[GOLFNUT]

Yes, but that was fitted 2 weeks after I picked it up, and that was due to an electrical fault . so it was a 2014 EGR from stock. So as far as I am concerned that was the EGR the vehicle came with. The vehicle has done 115,000 miles the EGR 114,100 miles.

I , personally, do not think the EGR is the root cause of the problem. It is a symptom. Otherwise EVERY 180 would suffer this problem.They do not.

There is a combination of circumstances that cause the alloy cooling fins to breakdown releasing Al particles that damage the engine. Driving style, oil contamination, excess heat or a cool engine. Most vehicles that are affected, post 2012MY { different problem 2010/2011 engines } are a relatively low milage for a commercial vehicle and are not run regularly .

Hi Welshgas
I have had my 180 for about 2 years now and love it , what would you say were the key things that made your 180 experience last so long , as I am keen to make mine last as long as possible, many thanks for any information

 

[CYCLOPATH]

Hi golfnut. This is an old thread. If your interested i fitted a D cooler and a tafmet Mine is now 60k and going strong. I do an oil analysis every year and its normal. I use about a litre of oil every 5 k whick is normal for the engine. Ill be interested in welsh gas reply. I dont do lots of little trips , but a couple of big tours each year ( currently on our way back from greece via albania and the Balkans

 

[WelshGas]

Hi Welshgas
I have had my 180 for about 2 years now and love it , what would you say were the key things that made your 180 experience last so long , as I am keen to make mine last as long as possible, many thanks for any information

Annual service . DSG and Haldex oil changes 2 yearly.
Oil consumption was 500 mls 1st year in which I covered 20,000 miles. Subsequent yrs milage was under 20, 000 mls/year and I never required any oil top ups between annual oil changes.
140,000 miles in 10 yrs. original 2014 EGR. nb; EGR replaced at 900 miles due to electrical problem. The EGR had no suffix, A,B,C or D.
Used as a daily driver but shortest trip was 30+ miles.
Apart from brake pads all round at 70,000 miles + front discs and a faulty ABS sensor at about 110,000 miles, there were no mechanical faults.
5 full sets of tyres the last 3 being Michelin Cross Climate.

 

[GOLFNUT]

Annual service . DSG and Haldex oil changes 2 yearly.
Oil consumption was 500 mls 1st year in which I covered 20,000 miles. Subsequent yrs milage was under 20, 000 mls/year and I never required any oil top ups between annual oil changes.
140,000 miles in 10 yrs. original 2014 EGR. nb; EGR replaced at 900 miles due to electrical problem. The EGR had no suffix, A,B,C or D.
Used as a daily driver but shortest trip was 30+ miles.
Apart from brake pads all round at 70,000 miles + front discs and a faulty ABS sensor at about 110,000 miles, there were no mechanical faults.
5 full sets of tyres the last 3 being Michelin Cross Climate.

Thanks for the information, it’s nice to hear someone have a good experience with this 180 engine, fresh oil and hot running appears to be the key , they cant all be bad surly

 

[pjm-84]

Tamfet at 44k - annual oil changes

No oil consumption / now at 86.5k / 10yrs old .......... came back from Wales last weekend and 45mpg.