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andrew bazeley

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A couple of members have just measured their 6.1 Cali Oceans at between 2.03m and 2.04 m at the rear, with a difference front to rear at the door sill and side body line of 40-50 mm. This is higher than previous Calis. Have other 6.1 owners, Ocean or Beach, seen this?

This video shows the height of a T6 Ocean:

I remember this argument came up as long ago as 2008, when I bought my Cali! The response was always that the basic van was just below 2M, but the awning took it just above 2M.

I still have the 2008 brochure, and here's the rather poor picture of the dimensions from it. Obviously no awning to take it over 2M! Sorry it's a bit blurd: the vertical measurement says "1.9990".

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I remember this argument came up as long ago as 2008, when I bought my Cali! The response was always that the basic van was just below 2M, but the awning took it just above 2M.

I still have the 2008 brochure, and here's the rather poor picture of the dimensions from it. Obviously no awning to take it over 2M! Sorry it's a bit blurd: the vertical measurement says "1.9990".

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As the awning is standard, is it misleading for the T6.1 being sold as under 2m?
 
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Anyone know what VB Air Suspension can bring it down to?
You can dump all of the air, not advisable,.

if you go on the VB site it gives the heights for the 4 settings. Axle to arch, you then need to transfer the difference from standard height to the roof height to get the drop. figures that I have from 3 years ago.

VB's info on height changes from standard height which would be as Factory with no lowered springs.
Sports Mode -25mm
Car Park Mode -60mm front & -90mm rear


Bilstein Air goes very-very low as you can go about 25mm lower than the VB setup.
Goes down to the point that mud flaps are bending/dragging.
 
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As the awning is standard, is it misleading for the T6.1 being sold as under 2m?
You're probably right. I bought mine from a VW van dealer, who had installed several extras for a customer (a VW sales manager!), including the awning. It wasn't, perhaps, originally marketed with the awning included in the basic specs. If that's happening now, its definitely wrong!
 
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I remeasured my van this evening, its now got water, gas & a spare wheel under it. I only did it as I was thinking the rear arch gap didn't look half as bad as before.

Its also covered about 1800 miles so had time for the suspension to settle down. I made it about 1.999m this time so does look to have dropped about 40mm from new.

It could be that the rolling diameter of the replacement wheels has contributed a few mm of that but not a lot.
 
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I remeasured my van this evening, its now got water, gas & a spare wheel under it. I only did it as I was thinking the rear arch gap didn't look half as bad as before.

Its also covered about 1800 miles so had time for the suspension to settle down. I made it about 1.999m this time so does look to have dropped about 40mm from new.

It could be that the rolling diameter of the replacement wheels has contributed a few mm of that but not a lot.
Just to compare with your earlier post, can you re-measure the wheel arch height, front and back, to see if it has reduced? Was 780 / 770mm. I mean, it must have, unless the van has shrunk, but interesting to hear the new figures so I can compare with mine.
 
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I remeasured my van this evening, its now got water, gas & a spare wheel under it. I only did it as I was thinking the rear arch gap didn't look half as bad as before.

Its also covered about 1800 miles so had time for the suspension to settle down. I made it about 1.999m this time so does look to have dropped about 40mm from new.

It could be that the rolling diameter of the replacement wheels has contributed a few mm of that but not a lot.
Did you drive forwards to settle the van on both occasions? On some vehicles the suspension can change height significantly if reversed for a distance on a high grip surface - a friends Triumph GT6 looked like it was on stilts if he reversed it down his drive. Very different suspension technologies, but still a possibility?
 
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Just to compare with your earlier post, can you re-measure the wheel arch height, front and back, to see if it has reduced? Was 780 / 770mm. I mean, it must have, unless the van has shrunk, but interesting to hear the new figures so I can compare with mine.

Just checked height of wheel arches - but not rechecked overall height & the van has been driven by the wife since I measured that.

Rear arch 768 front now 778 so gone up at the front & down at the back! I am 100% that the measurements both times are round the right way.

I need to park it somewhere 100% level & get the proper measuring equipment out, shine a laser over the roof & find the exact highest point.
 
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Was thinking about this today. I often park here in Bordeaux centre - my T5 clatters the red and white height bar at the back as the front end drops into the ramp (not clear from the screenshot but it's steep) but fits under the gate and lowest point of the carpark with a bit of breathing space.

I would not like to try that in the 6.1! Not without deflating the tyres first ;)

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Was thinking about this today. I often park here in Bordeaux centre - my T5 clatters the red and white height bar at the back as the front end drops into the ramp (not clear from the screenshot but it's steep) but fits under the gate and lowest point of the carpark with a bit of breathing space.

I would not like to try that in the 6.1! Not without deflating the tyres first ;)

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Nor would I. 6.1s are over 1.9m high
 
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Nor would I. 6.1s are over 1.9m high

that was the origin of this thread - my T5 is a bit over 1.9 too but the T6.1 Ocean I measured on the forecourt was 2.03, floor to awning casing (roof did not seem appreciably lower than the highest point of the awning)
 
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Anyone measured their new Coast? Really hoping that ours creeps in at 2m. A new garage door and I might be able to get it indoors. 2.03 will be disappointing
 
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Can't see a beach being much different? The Ocean I measured was 150 DGS with standard steels and tyres.
 
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Its difficult to measure accurately, but mine has settled down to somewhere just under 2m, I think its now about 50mm lower than when we first got it!
 
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Its difficult to measure accurately, but mine has settled down to somewhere just under 2m, I think its now about 50mm lower than when we first got it!
I prefer the sound of that Andy. Going to wait for delivery before switching to a sectional door.
 
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That's good news if true. A >2.0m camper could be problematic
 

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