We are still Cali hunting but have Ben members of the Caravan Club since 2004 when we got our first caravan. We joined them in preference to the C&CC as we went to our local site Clumber park to do a comparison. The CC site was like the Hilton, the CCC site was like The Somme complete with latrine. In all fairness I think they closed the CCC one the year after as the park redeveloped the land it was on so maybe they didn't want to modernise it. On the basis of this highly scientific test we went with the CC and have never regretted it from a facilities point of view, they are almost always immaculate. However, as previous posters have commented there is also nearly always a bit of a "thing" going on at CC sites. Can't really put my finger on it and to be fair it's never been enough to put me off but they can be a bit straitjacketed sometimes, I guess it depends who you pitch next to and you run that risk anywhere. As they say there's nowt as queer as folk. Whenever we roll up you normally get twitchers that'd rather watch you struggle with an awning or reversing onto a tight pitch rather than help you, but last year a nice couple helped us for the first time ever, they turned out to be localish to us and had come over to help as they'd seen the Lowdham Leisure badge so were glad to see fellow people from Nottinghamshire. You sometimes hear people say "don't ever leave suds in the sinks" on CC sites and while it may be tongue in cheek I have witnesses the next sink user get quite agitated by it. With respect to the oldies (I'm 41, my wife is 46) it is usually the very mature ladies who look like they've been sucking a lemon that are the worst for moaning, LOL. And you'll get them at both sites I'm sure. And at CC sites yes you will get some very odd outfits, we've seen plenty of massive bird cages with macaws, parrots etc, we even saw a whole plastic tree once for them to perch on, must have been 7 ft tall. Weird. And huge awnings with all the trimmings on that make a lil' VW van look quite insubstantial. And the massive TV's too - sometimes wonder why people actually bother to leave home at all. Agree the CC booking system is on the whole rubbish. I have no experience of the CCC one but with the CC what tends to happen is that when booking opens for the new year on the 6th December everyone who has kids tends to block book the holidays in advance so those of us without kids or who just fancy a long weekend on impulse will often find that a site is totally booked. But if you ring on the day there'll be a space as invariably some families haven't turned up and didn't bother to cancel. That really gets my goat. Anyway, that's just my input, I feel quite cleansed now I've had a bit of a moan.