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Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by Azteccamper, Feb 10, 2019.

  1. Auberg-ine
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    Auberg-ine Is it an office? Is it a lounge? Is it a camper? VIP Member

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    Just heard here that my neighbor, the first President of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy (remember Nigel Farage's 'damp rag'?) is asked by May to break the status-quo of the negotiations. At a dinner last night he met the British ambassador here, who later joined your Biking minister together with the EU negotiator Barnier.
    Sometimes one needs a good old decent rag to clean up the bleep of bleeps...
     
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    I once compared that bleeping here with Japanese pixelled porn....
     
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    It is always interesting to hear about B-exit from another country's perspective. In touring 33 EU and non-EU countries during 2017/2018 we had an awful lot of it. Sadness and bewilderment sum up the feeling pretty well. There were exceptions: a Dutch couple running a campsite in Austria terrified of immigrants changing the character of their home village - irony noted - and a Romanian campsite owner baffled at Britain allowing his countrymen to fly fortnightly into Luton Airport on a bi-weekly pilgrimage to sign on - is this fake news or does it really happen?

    There's an interesting article in today's Guardian: "Seven correspondents report on how the UK’s political upheaval has affected its image on the continent".

    Link to the article - Un big mess
     
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    If you have 100 customers in a restaurant with the question "ham or tuna butties" and then 52 people said Ham, would you then just force ham down the 48 faces who wanted tuna even if they absolutely despised ham. I feel you are looking at things very much in black or white, and with such a massive decision, you simply cannot do that as it affects everybody in the UK. Currently with Mays deal however, we are ALL getting served butties with a surprise filling, which wasnt even on the menu! :eek:.
     
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    On booking ferries post March: I have heard from a Brit who booked a Europe trip for Easter time, they have been warned there's a risk ferries will be requesitioned by the UK government for emergency transport of goods.
     
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    Purchased the IDP today, at PO in Sherwood, Nottingham, £5.50 + £6.00 for photos. The first one they had issued.
    A word of warning as i am over 70yrs, my driving licence expires in September of this year, so does the IDP as only valid for 3yrs or life of driving licence.
     
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    Good afternoon,

    If you ask 10 people what is the best car, you get 11 different answers. If you as 10 people what is the best camper you get 12 different answers.

    The opinion or decision to stay in a union (EU) is a very individual and everything has pros and cons. It seems that unfortunately we live in a time that many listen to a few using easy, uncomplicated language. It might be that we are all a bit tired of a complicated politics (and everything is getting more complicated). Is it not in many countries this way? We feel that we (the normal person on the street) losing control and losing out in comparison to other groups of people.

    But even centuries ago people left their homeland to find better places to live (based on this didn't even Homo Erectus came from Africa to Europe? In the 16th or 17th century hundreds of thousands of Hessen moved to America to find a better live. The list is endless).

    Is it not understandable that people from other countries wishing to come to Europe to start new? To some extend I can understand this. But is this so easily possible in the year 2019? Has society changed (for people who want to come to Europe and for the people in Europe). Because of this is there a clash of opinions and resentments? If this is, what can be done to improve the situation but give everybody a fair chance?

    As Amarillo said, I don't believe also that anybody in Europe in the right mind wishes the UK to leave Europe. UK is an integral part of Europe, has shaped and influence culture, art, society and business etc. Should there be another vote (I know that is a sensitive question)? If we would be able to turn the clock back, would there be the same outcome of the vote in UK? I don't know.

    Hopefully there are enough wise politicians on all sides to come to a workable solution.

    Regards,
    Eberhard
     
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    No one is advocating leaving Europe, what exercised a lot (majority) of voters at the referendum was the gradual extension of powers to the EU to make decisions on some crucial laws that the UK would not be able to veto even if it wanted too. A common market on the terms we voted for in 1975 would be completely acceptable to practically everyone, the future advocated by the federalist less so.
     
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    Nice analogy. A better analogy would be "cheese or meat butties?" meat winning 52 v 48 then forcing tuna butties on everyone even though it was beef butties or chicken butties or ham butties that 50/52 meat voters thought they were voting for.
     
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    The hidden agenda of a Federal State of Europe has caused much conflict. My German mates are as much against it as I am. My gripe is where have the decent politicians gone. It would be nice to have someone we could trust to tell us the honest truth. Bring back the Common Market body and closer relations without the bonding ties of the EC. Now bowing out.
     
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    They did in Wales.
     
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    In actual EU travel advice:

    Ref: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-1051_en.htm?locale=en
    (edit - add reference)
     
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    I voted to remain. I was very disappointed with the result of the referendum, but have said and done nothing to obstruct the result of the vote.

    As a remainer I object severely to you stating that I should feel 'ashamed at the way I have tried to stop/change and hinder the democratic wish of the British people.' I have said and done nothing of the sort.

    In fact I have rarely spoken about my views to anyone except my wife.

    Please do not make unfounded accusations or generalise about an issue as great as this one.

    Alan
     
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    I had you down as a leaver Alan.
    It just goes to show that you can't judge a man by the colour
    of his Cali. :D
     
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    I understand why you feel a bit narked Alan (in general I mean, I'm not having a go at anyone on this forum).

    The trouble is, like all revolutions, the narrative has been captured by the revolutionaries (ERG in the Cons party, and the minority who were always strongly anti-EU in the wider population). And equally inevitably it's spawned a counter-revolution, for whom nothing but tearing up the 'corrupt' referendum result will suffice.

    Both the revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries both claim unique insight into "what the issue is all about" and "what people voted for" (/against). And their versions of revealed truth become ever more ossified and history is re-written to fit them.

    And anyone who dares to suggest anything that doesn't conform to the new orthodoxies on both sides are accused of "betraying the people" (= betraying the 'majority' if you're a Bre*iteer, or = selling young people down the river, if you're a Fundamentalist Remainer).

    The real majority - that is, people who voted one way or the other in 2016 because they were forced to choose in a false dichotomy, but would have much rather their government concerned itself with what they feel are more important issues than which particular bunch of politicians gets to decide what shape bananas should be - have been left feeling stigmatised by the revolutionaries, or the counter-revolutionaries, or both.
     
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    One little detail to note. The GB sticker (you know oval white sticker with "GB" on it) must be 98 mm high. Some people use the smaller stickers - French and Italian motorbike cops love to collar these for an on the spot fine. :(
     
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    98mm ?

    What’s that in feet and inches :headbang
     
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    There are 25.4 mm per inch so the gives 3.858267717 inches. Hope you have a good ruler :cheers.
     
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    Majority UK public voted to Leave based on minimal info and majority of Parliament want to Remain based on a bit more info and at least get a 'half way house' deal. At least with the Scottish Indy referendum the SNP produced a 600 page doc to base decision on with the stumbling blocks of currency and ironically being scared into believing we'd be out of EU in an instant and wouldn't be allowed back in unless we accepted Euro. That didn't put off Scottish fishermen as they wanted out of EU at same time. The driving permit issue of this thread along with a myriad of other issues is not Europe's fault, it's a case of UK Parliament deciding what it wants to do in next few weeks! It looks like the withdrawal agreement won't be re-negotiated and even then might not be voted in, and so by default we leave on 29th March with various temporary arrangements suddenly coming into place re borders, rules, permits, tariffs etc. I don't envy the civil servants trying to sort it out although Farage doesn't have a good word to say about our own, no surprise there. I wanted to Remain as can't think of any scary EU rules that have bothered me, and in Scotland we have benefited from an influx of young hard-working folk which has reversed de-population in recent years. I can see that there might be different pressures elsewhere in UK, surely it wasn't just the tabloids drum-beating? Once there is some clarity, things will get sorted out one way or another although I can't see how boris bike will help solve the bigger issues of inequality and homelessness. Already we have the middle class problem of more expensive Cali and parts, will they get cheaper or more expensive to run? Can we travel and live/work in Europe if we want to as easily? Ex pats (British migrants) certainly won't get the same health benefits and may return to UK NHS which will have less Euro staff to help run it. Will our food have traveled even further to reach our plates or perhaps our home grown food industry will adapt quite quickly and we shop local for local produce? There will be many unforeseen consequences good and bad and that's the only thing any of us can be certain about just now.
     
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    I love it.
    The number of members that click “ Disagree “ on a post that Don’t have the courage of their convictions to explain why they Disagree.
    Maybe those that just click and don’t post to explain don’t have any opinions and just follow the crowd and hope to remain anonymous.:mute
     
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