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MartG

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You should have some comeback with a dealer for this... I would ask them to get help from VW or a specialist camper firm though if possible. I'm sure you will be able to sort it yourself, just shouldn't have to...

The suggestion of the slope was not for testing but maybe a cause of the leak 'travelling'.
 
ArunAlec

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Good to know the window can be done without stripping the whole thing.
Yea I’ve taped up the windows on that side all round kind of eliminating them, which lead me onto the roof. But like you say it would mean the water was coming around the window and along the support and then dripping down which seems a little unlikely, but you never know.

Ive not tried parking it on a slope yet so will have a play with that.

thanks for your reply
If you do need the complete window replacement SMG Cowfold did mine without kitchen removal. Actually they get a window fitter in.
 
fraser500

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You should have some comeback with a dealer for this... I would ask them to get help from VW or a specialist camper firm though if possible. I'm sure you will be able to sort it yourself, just shouldn't have to...

The suggestion of the slope was not for testing but maybe a cause of the leak 'travelling'.
Yes the dealer is onboard with doing his duty as it were. I took out a 3 year warranty too. I did see a camper conversion chap locally but I think he was put off as it’s a Cali not a conversion.

As it’s been Christmas I didn’t have time to get it booked in at VW but I’ve now run out of ideas I feel it needs to go into VW van centre.

see what you meant about the slope now thanks
 
fraser500

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If you do need the complete window replacement SMG Cowfold did mine without kitchen removal. Actually they get a window fitter in.
Thanks for letting me know, if only one thing it’s a big relief to know the window can be done without kitchen removal. Although I’ve taped all the windows up now but water is a tricky sin if a gun.
 
MartG

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Just as an experiment, could you squirt some water onto the drainage channel inside, below the sliding window, to check that the water doesn't drip inside, both front & rear of channel? I'm convinced that must be the area!
 
fraser500

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Just as an experiment, could you squirt some water onto the drainage channel inside, below the sliding window, to check that the water doesn't drip inside, both front & rear of channel? I'm convinced that must be the area!
Yes good idea, like you say it’s the most likely cause.
I’m not confident popping out the sliding window myself but will have a go at what you’ve suggested. If I can pin point the issue will be much easier for it to be fixed.
 
westfalia

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How about firing some water using the syringe and water with
red food colouring around the window where its bonded to the
van.

I once saw a new van in the workshop having a new glass fitted
because it wasn't bonded correctly.
 
fraser500

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How about firing some water using the syringe and water with
red food colouring around the window where its bonded to the
van.

I once saw a new van in the workshop having a new glass fitted
because it wasn't bonded correctly.
That is a very good idea, will give that a try for sure.
 
fraser500

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Thank you all for your replies and suggestions.
I've given in and booked it in at the VW Van Centre to be diagnosed. I have to wait until the 24th Jan to have it looked at but will update everyone once I know more. Fingers crossed.
If it's the roof it's covered for 6 years by VW if not the roof costs will potentially be incurred, but the dealer I purchased the van from is being very supportive if it's not done under warranty. :Nailbiting
 
AlisonF

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Thank you all for your replies and suggestions.
I've given in and booked it in at the VW Van Centre to be diagnosed. I have to wait until the 24th Jan to have it looked at but will update everyone once I know more. Fingers crossed.
If it's the roof it's covered for 6 years by VW if not the roof costs will potentially be incurred, but the dealer I purchased the van from is being very supportive if it's not done under warranty. :Nailbiting
Watching this thread with interest as I have informed my dealer if my leak and they want the van in for ‘testing the leak’... and it may take a day or two to order a new window...
Based on the above I would like to know more from the dealer on what the tests will be... and what the eventual window replacement prodecure would look like (kitchen out or not...?)...
 
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I had exactly the same leak - now fixed. The advice given to me by a local van converter is that there is still a lot of ash contamination in the air from the Iceland volcano eruption. It builds up into a thin crust on the rubber seals of the sliding window, pushing them apart enough for the rain to get in. Whether or not the volcano is to blame it proved true, on close inspection, that there was a fine crust of something on the seals. So, I had all the sliding window seals replaced (mine has sliding windows both sides). One tip is to give them a few weeks after installation before trying to slide the windows open. I found that the seals were dragged out of place when I tried mine immediately after replacement, and they had to be refitted. After a few weeks the seals had lost their 'out of the packaging' stickiness and all was fine.
At the time, as a belt and braces job, I arranged for the whole side window to be removed and reset and any rust on the bodywork under the window to be treated. In my Cali (2006 T5) it couldn't be done without removing the kitchen unit. The kitchen unit couldn't be removed because of a bolt through the floor that wouldn't undo. In the end I settled for a discreet amount of clear sealant around the main window.
I hope you get your problem diagnosed and sorted.
 
fraser500

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I had exactly the same leak - now fixed. The advice given to me by a local van converter is that there is still a lot of ash contamination in the air from the Iceland volcano eruption. It builds up into a thin crust on the rubber seals of the sliding window, pushing them apart enough for the rain to get in. Whether or not the volcano is to blame it proved true, on close inspection, that there was a fine crust of something on the seals. So, I had all the sliding window seals replaced (mine has sliding windows both sides). One tip is to give them a few weeks after installation before trying to slide the windows open. I found that the seals were dragged out of place when I tried mine immediately after replacement, and they had to be refitted. After a few weeks the seals had lost their 'out of the packaging' stickiness and all was fine.
At the time, as a belt and braces job, I arranged for the whole side window to be removed and reset and any rust on the bodywork under the window to be treated. In my Cali (2006 T5) it couldn't be done without removing the kitchen unit. The kitchen unit couldn't be removed because of a bolt through the floor that wouldn't undo. In the end I settled for a discreet amount of clear sealant around the main window.
I hope you get your problem diagnosed and sorted.
Hi Hets,
Thanks for your reply but I think I've taped over the window sufficently to prevent any water coming in for there. See attached pics. I think I would prefer it to be the window becuase where else could it be comiong from. It's defo not condensation as it only happens when it's rained and its nowhere else in the van just behind the kitchen unit. It's going into VW a week on Friday, until then I shall keep bailing!!

Unless if anyones knows if it's still possible for water to get in even though I've completly taped them up with electrical tape all around??

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MartG

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I've just been out to have a look at mine. There's a small gap between the glass worktop and the plastic trim, found by shining my phone torch down, which corresponds with the supporting member where your water is. Have you checked the rear of the worktop? There looks like a 'gutter' at each end where the blind slides down which links up with this 'slot' and could take water from the roof area, (B & C pillar areas)...
 
MartG

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It's fine enough that capillary action could take and hold water there...E8252E04-380C-4CB2-9768-1C4EF76531FD_1_105_c.jpeg
 
fraser500

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Possibly, but I think you'd see it almost everywhere there is a cold surface, like the windows or covering the metal panels...
Defo not condensation, wish it was to be honest. It's too localised and too much of it. I'm not sleeping in it it's just parked on my drive.
 
Perfectos

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For those that have a leak through the rubber gasket seal, they can be cleaned with water and a soft cloth, once dry treat with Gummi Pfledge,basically a silicone emulsion, which you apply to the clean rubber seal, allow it to dry, reapply as necessary to restores the properties of the rubber.
Prevents the rubber from sticking to the mating / sealing surface which causes the rubber to deteriorate over time / use.
Another everyday solution is the shoe shine sponges, which have silicone oil Inptegnated, the silicone oil restores rubber and penetrates allowing the rubber seal to be revitalised.
I used this method on a previous VW sliding window, with two leaking windows, after two applications is sorted both leaking seals totally.

Use on your door and roof seals to keep in top condition and prevent leaks and squeaks.

Helps stop creaks and spurious noises from doors etc

And no I don’t have shares in the product haha, it just works
 
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fraser500

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I've found the problem!

There is a tiny slit see first picture, I've shone my torch on it. Second picture is a bit clearer.
When I dribble water in, it then pours out exactly when the water has been leaking from.
My question is what is the slit for and can I just seal it up, or is there more to it?
Sorry MartG but I suspect you will be popping outside in a sec...
I've looked on the other side and it also has the same slit.
But at least I've now located the source of the problem which is a great relief and may help Alison.
I’ve already purchased so rubber rejuvenator to apply to the seals around the window to help keep water out.
But I’m sure the water should not be leaking from this slit??

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MartG

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That looks torn / damaged... But great that you've found it!

I will nip out and take a pic for your comparison
 
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