Is there increasing resistance against EV’s?

[Barry Chuckle]

Another easy fix that many manufactures use is to deactivate the keys when they've not been moved for several seconds. This works whilst the keys are in your house but not when you're carrying the keys on you. I know of scanners been used when owners are in restaurants or pubs. I know Volvo use this technology but I'm guessing JLR dont!

 

[Ch1pbutty]

Another easy fix that many manufactures use is to deactivate the keys when they've not been moved for several seconds. This works whilst the keys are in your house but not when you're carrying the keys on you. I know of scanners been used when owners are in restaurants or pubs. I know Volvo use this technology but I'm guessing JLR dont!

Thieves will always find away around it. Our Tesla was unlocked within 20 seconds one night, they were after the charging cable, which was locked under the bonnet which they couldn't access. Although the car unlocked they were not able to drive it, and if they had it has live tracking from an iPhone as standard; we now use the pin feature on the car screen as additional security.

It was all caught on camera and the police caught the thieves within 20 mins, but no further action was taken as there was no damage, nothing taken from the vehicle.

Reported to Tesla who explained that it was a constant battle trying to fight the thieves, hence regular over the air software updates which have additional security features. He then said they should come and work for us instead!

 

[Barry Chuckle]

It was all caught on camera and the police caught the thieves within 20 mins, but no further action was taken as there was no damage, nothing taken from the vehicle.

This is such a damning indictment on the state of the policing, you can happily break into someone elses car but provided you're apprehended before you can get away with anything you can act with impunity.....

 

[soulstyledevon]

I had to assist the police in Reading a few weeks ago, retrieving some CCTV footage of a van being broken into. They used another stolen van to smash into their target. For what…?
A few hundred pounds of tools. Thousands of pounds of damage to the vehicles involved and the building adjacent as the van was rammed into it.
What had my attention…?
There were lots of people around, watching and filming. None felt safe to intervene and stop the crime. This happens a lot, broad daylight and in busy areas.
The police can’t be everywhere, all the time. They will investigate, especially in cases like this. Which needs to be investigated. But lesser crimes are a waste of time and resource, IMO.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

You always seem to post really interesting video links, thanks I watched this from start to finished and found it most balanced. I'm on my 2nd EV with a 3rd on order but am neither a dyed in the wool EV convert or an EV conspiracy theorist!

However don't you think he looks like a slightly younger Mike Brewer!!!!!????

He really does. There are a lot of Brewerisms about him.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

Ha, yes and the rest. The credit hire company appointed by the not-at-fault insurer (in this case, mine) when I got rear-ended wanted to bill at £178 per day. Of course, the insurance company gets a rake off from that. One of the insurance industry's dirty little secrets.

It’s such a grubby industry.

My Abarth had a minor prang (while stationary & parked), which resulted in a bit of bumper damage and damage to two alloys.

An independent garage would have prepped & painted the bumper and had a specialist repair the alloys. Time off the road? One day. Maybe two depending on timings.

I went through the insurers who enforced their approved garage.

First, a perfectly road-safe & drivable car was picked up on a flat-bed.

Second, I am provided a rental car for an inexplicable 3 - 4 weeks while it was repaired.

I think the repair costs were in excess of £3k. Two alloy refurbs - even diamond cut - at the time say £150. Bumper respray £250.

And the lovely virtuous economic circle for the insurers, I have to declare it for 5 years, justifying their spiralling premiums.

The mafia couldn’t find a better racket. Expect perhaps GWR trains.

 

[Velma's Dad]

It’s such a grubby industry.

My Abarth had a minor prang (while stationary & parked), which resulted in a bit of bumper damage and damage to two alloys.

An independent garage would have prepped & painted the bumper and had a specialist repair the alloys. Time off the road? One day. Maybe two depending on timings.

I went through the insurers who enforced their approved garage.

First, a perfectly road-safe & drivable car was picked up on a flat-bed.

Second, I am provided a rental car for an inexplicable 3 - 4 weeks while it was repaired.

I think the repair costs were in excess of £3k. Two alloy refurbs - even diamond cut - at the time say £150. Bumper respray £250.

And the lovely virtuous economic circle for the insurers, I have to declare it for 5 years, justifying their spiralling premiums.

The mafia couldn’t find a better racket. Expect perhaps GWR trains.

A great real-life example of why all our premiums are so high. And your insurer was making money out of your accident at every step, in the chunky kick-backs (which they call rebates or referral fees) they'll have received from the claims management company, the credit hire monkeys and their "approved" (yeah, no sh1t) bodyshops.

And by the way, the small print of the "courtesy car" agreement that you'll be asked to sign leaves you, personally, on the hook for the (inflated) bill in the event that your insurer doesn't manage to recover the full amount from the third party.

Yep, it's a racket.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

This is such a damning indictment on the state of the policing, you can happily break into someone elses car but provided you're apprehended before you can get away with anything you can act with impunity.....

And yet, I inadvertently drove an non-compliant vehicle into the ULEZ when going on holiday and there is plenty of resource to hound me and escalate the fines to eye-watering levels in my absence overseas.

It’s quite extraordinary. True crime is met with a shrug of the shoulders to the perpetrators and a form letter to the victim closing off the case.

Whilst minor traffic violations are treated like espionage & treason.

All to fund bankrupt councils.

And again, we call the mafia organised crime. At least they’re honest about it.

 

[vmaxkiddy]

This is where your written off vehicle is likely to end up.

https://www.copart.co.uk/

 

[derek_j_buchanan]

Haha, I can't believe I'm gonna say this @WelshGas ........ that (rather accurate) statement makes us sound like Boomers!

Boom boom

 

[Barry Chuckle]

Boom boom

Whatever happened to Basil Brush, didn't he run away with Tufty?

 

[Velma's Dad]

Some of you might have seen back before Xmas, the first Russian EV - reported in press as called Ispitanya and I thought it was a spoof but apparently no. (Actually called Avtotor Amber - look it up). And you thought the Tesla Cybertruck was fugly?

Loved this:

 

[Corradobrit]

Some of you might have seen back before Xmas, the first Russian EV - reported in press as called Ispitanya and I thought it was a spoof but apparently no. (Actually called Avtotor Amber - look it up). And you thought the Tesla Cybertruck was fugly?

Loved this:

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Well if the worlds greatest racing driver says it's good, where do I sign.

 

[chockswahay]

Just been reminded about this thread..................... we bought an EV in February this year! It's a four year old Mini Cooper........ without a doubt the most powerful and economic car I have ever owned! With the combo of Solar panels and Octopus EV tariff our fuel costs per mile are...................................................................................... ZERO! Yup......ZERO! Even if we did not sell power back to the grid it would still only cost 1.4p per mile.

So much fun and perfect for nipping around the Cornish roads and lanes....... we love it!

 

[Californication69]

Just been reminded about this thread..................... we bought an EV in February this year! It's a four year old Mini Cooper........ without a doubt the most powerful and economic car I have ever owned! With the combo of Solar panels and Octopus EV tariff our fuel costs per mile are...................................................................................... ZERO! Yup......ZERO! Even if we did not sell power back to the grid it would still only cost 1.4p per mile.

So much fun and perfect for nipping around the Cornish roads and lanes....... we love it!

I’ve heard the Renault 5 EV is meant to be really good.
I’d be looking for one in 5 years time to nip around like a local shopping trolly.
So good to hear, as I’m looking at a 8kWh 16 panel Aiko and PW3 for the future !

 

[FivetonesCali]

Just been reminded about this thread..................... we bought an EV in February this year! It's a four year old Mini Cooper........ without a doubt the most powerful and economic car I have ever owned! With the combo of Solar panels and Octopus EV tariff our fuel costs per mile are...................................................................................... ZERO! Yup......ZERO! Even if we did not sell power back to the grid it would still only cost 1.4p per mile.

So much fun and perfect for nipping around the Cornish roads and lanes....... we love it!

I have the same car. Mine’s lowered on STX coilovers, JCW Brembo brakes and wheels. I love it, it replaced my RS4.

 

[Kayleigh]

I’ve heard the Renault 5 EV is meant to be really good.
I’d be looking for one in 5 years time to nip around like a local shopping trolly.
So good to hear, as I’m looking at a 8kWh 16 panel Aiko and PW3 for the future !

I’ve heard it’s pretty insane!

 

[GrannyJen]

Just been reminded about this thread..................... we bought an EV in February this year! It's a four year old Mini Cooper........ without a doubt the most powerful and economic car I have ever owned! With the combo of Solar panels and Octopus EV tariff our fuel costs per mile are...................................................................................... ZERO! Yup......ZERO! Even if we did not sell power back to the grid it would still only cost 1.4p per mile.

So much fun and perfect for nipping around the Cornish roads and lanes....... we love it!

I asm on my second Cupra. Superb machine

 

[Wannabecamperman]

Just been reminded about this thread..................... we bought an EV in February this year! It's a four year old Mini Cooper........ without a doubt the most powerful and economic car I have ever owned! With the combo of Solar panels and Octopus EV tariff our fuel costs per mile are...................................................................................... ZERO! Yup......ZERO! Even if we did not sell power back to the grid it would still only cost 1.4p per mile.

So much fun and perfect for nipping around the Cornish roads and lanes....... we love it!

I am also on the Octopus 7p per kWh overnight tariff for my Tesla Y and the wife's Ora 3 Pro (vented and massage seats AND panoramic opening roof, don't you know!). We'll never go back to ICE. Saving a fortune on fuel costs and the most fun / smoothest / most powerful drive ever.

 

[RockinNRollin]

I’ve been running an EV (a Polestar) for the last 6 months. It’s a fantastic vehicle and the whole electric driving experience is superior 90% of the time. I enjoy “enthusiastic” driving and I thought I’d miss the theatrics of ICE (I’ve had an eclectic collection of cars, from turbo charged Subarus to screaming Celicas) but weirdly I don’t. My only issue has been public charging on long haul drives. This is literally 3 times in 6 months; the first few occasions there were issues finding a charger of the right speed in the right place, but then most recently I endured a chaotic queue to wait for an available charger (I wasn’t actually waiting long at all, but it’s like waiting for a kettle to boil).

On the whole though I think they’re brilliant.

 

[Kernowboy]

I asm on my second Cupra. Superb machine

Me too. ‘Voluntary Terminated’ the first Born (sounds like a Chinese population control measure!), nothing wrong with it but the depreciation was ferocious so it would have cost me 5k over value to keep and it had the smaller battery. A recent job change means I am now commuting 300 miles weekly vs the local mileage (and thus easy home charging I had previously enjoyed). Picked up an ex demo Born VZ - 3mths old, 15k under list, reduced payments. Bigger battery, super car performance and a great drive. And avoided the luxury car tax vs a factory order. What’s not to like? Infrastructure improving rapidly too, Exeter services a great example. Lots of investment, rows of chargers. Plugged in last week on the commute, charged at 182 kw initially. 11 mins added c.150 miles of range, took me longer to take a pee than the car took to charge.
Also on Octopus at home, cheap as chips and we get c.12hrs every day at the low rate for the whole house - a heat pump means the savings are significant.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

I'm holding out for hydrogen.......in an internal combustion engine......that way there will still be enough lithium to treat depression!

 

[GrannyJen]

Me too. ‘Voluntary Terminated’ the first Born (sounds like a Chinese population control measure!), nothing wrong with it but the depreciation was ferocious so it would have cost me 5k over value to keep and it had the smaller battery. A recent job change means I am now commuting 300 miles weekly vs the local mileage (and thus easy home charging I had previously enjoyed). Picked up an ex demo Born VZ - 3mths old, 15k under list, reduced payments. Bigger battery, super car performance and a great drive. And avoided the luxury car tax vs a factory order. What’s not to like? Infrastructure improving rapidly too, Exeter services a great example. Lots of investment, rows of chargers. Plugged in last week on the commute, charged at 182 kw initially. 11 mins added c.150 miles of range, took me longer to take a pee than the car took to charge.
Also on Octopus at home, cheap as chips and we get c.12hrs every day at the low rate for the whole house - a heat pump means the savings are significant.

I have a VZ also. Brilliant car. Like you, solar panels refuel every time I get home. 300 miles range exceeds my range without a comfort break. If stopping for a few minutes just pop it on charge. Easy.

 

[Lambeth Cali]

Well the vibe on this thread has changed dramatically in 2 years.

Still someone ‘waiting for Hydrogen’. Some things will never change.

 

[Readz]

I’d say there is yes. I’m my opinion it’s mainly due to bad manners and behaviour by the big white box brigade like totally filling bins leaving rubbish parking where they like etc etc. Same as a lot of things a few can spoil things very quickly.
Not a dig at anyone just my own experience and opinion.