Reserve gas supply

[sidepod]

Ok we’ve all been there. Run out of gas for the hob. Obvs it never runs out as you’re driving down the road but just as you’re finishing off the jus for the steak. When that happens you’ll get “the look” from the Mrs. Nobody wants that. !

Here’s the solution. Strap in.

As ever, based on a 4 but fully applicable to 5,6 and 7’s (when they arrive).

You will need one of these

one of these

Inside the gas cubicle, snip the hose and install the T piece.


re-install the 907 and the small back-up canister


So now when the hob supply fails simply isolate the valve on the 907 and open the valve of the small canister regulator.
Back in the game. Buy a full 907 at your convenience.

I guess there are gauges to check levels etc but they’re accurate to +/- five camping trips. With this system you can use every last bit of gas. I’ve always carried a spare 907 for the Cadac which stood in as a spare for the hob. No need anymore. Cadac now runs off the small canisters.

Don’t clap, just throw money.

 

[WelshGas]

Ok we’ve all been there. Run out of gas for the hob. Obvs it never runs out as you’re driving down the road but just as you’re finishing off the jus for the steak. When that happens you’ll get “the look” from the Mrs. Nobody wants that. !

Here’s the solution. Strap in.

As ever, based on a 4 but fully applicable to 5,6 and 7’s (when they arrive).

You will need one of these
View attachment 63755
one of these
View attachment 63756
Inside the gas cubicle, snip the hose and install the T piece.

View attachment 63757
re-install the 907 and the small back-up canister
View attachment 63758
View attachment 63759
So now when the hob supply fails simply isolate the valve on the 907 and open the valve of the small canister regulator.
Back in the game. Buy a full 907 at your convenience.

I guess there are gauges to check levels etc but they’re accurate to +/- five camping trips. With this system you can use every last bit of gas. I’ve always carried a spare 907 for the Cadac which stood in as a spare for the hob. No need anymore. Cadac now runs off the small canisters.

Don’t clap, just throw money.

Don’t think there is room in the T5/6/6.1 gas locker for anything else, even a small cartridge.
However I use a Calor Campingaz Regulator and a quick release gas connector in the Rubber gas line. Calor regulator has built in tap.
Close tap, disconnect quick release. Lift out 907 and spin off regulator. Fit regulator to 904 or even 901 cylinder. Back into gas locker and re-connect quick release and open tap.

How to and Parts needed.

Loose gas connection

Hi I had a situation at the weekend when I checked and turned on the gas when on the camp site (everything working well) thenther next day drove up the road with gas tap still open (yes I know this is not best advised) and the connection between the regulator and tap had come loose and gas was...

vwcaliforniaclub.com

 

[Meoncoast]

Interesting I carried a 901when you could get them as a reserve bottle when we 1st started on the camper van road.

 

[California4x4]

Ok we’ve all been there. Run out of gas for the hob. Obvs it never runs out as you’re driving down the road but just as you’re finishing off the jus for the steak. When that happens you’ll get “the look” from the Mrs. Nobody wants that. !

Here’s the solution. Strap in.

As ever, based on a 4 but fully applicable to 5,6 and 7’s (when they arrive).

You will need one of these
View attachment 63755
one of these
View attachment 63756
Inside the gas cubicle, snip the hose and install the T piece.

View attachment 63757
re-install the 907 and the small back-up canister
View attachment 63758
View attachment 63759
So now when the hob supply fails simply isolate the valve on the 907 and open the valve of the small canister regulator.
Back in the game. Buy a full 907 at your convenience.

I guess there are gauges to check levels etc but they’re accurate to +/- five camping trips. With this system you can use every last bit of gas. I’ve always carried a spare 907 for the Cadac which stood in as a spare for the hob. No need anymore. Cadac now runs off the small canisters.

Don’t clap, just throw money.

Great stuff. I have a quick release for my regulator and I’d like to be able to connect a camping gas canister when required. Can you share a link for that regulator please?

 

[sidepod]

Cadac EN417 Regulator (and Hose) | GO Outdoors

Convert your Cadac to use smaller, high pressure gas cartridges.

www.gooutdoors.co.uk

 

[Rololux]

Is it possible to fit 2 904 cylinders in a T6? Only one connected, the other as a spare below. I know the gas will be more expensive, but it means you always have a reserve. I’m pretty sure my Dad used to do this on his old Bedford CF250 Autosleeper in the 70’s. But that’s going back a while!

 

[WelshGas]

Is it possible to fit 2 904 cylinders in a T6? Only one connected, the other as a spare below. I know the gas will be more expensive, but it means you always have a reserve. I’m pretty sure my Dad used to do this on his old Bedford CF250 Autosleeper in the 70’s. But that’s going back a while!

Remember the gas cylinder and regulator are fitted within a “ Gas Locker “ that is vented outside the interior in case of a leak. You can certainly carry a Full sealed 907/904 or 901 cylinder as a spare within the vehicle.

 

[Rololux]

Remember the gas cylinder and regulator are fitted within a “ Gas Locker “ that is vented outside the interior in case of a leak. You can certainly carry a Full sealed 907/904 or 901 cylinder as a spare within the vehicle.

No, I understand this - the question is, is there room in the Gas locker for 2 904’s Instead of 1 907?

 

[Wesel]

No, not possible. 2 x 904 is much higher than 1 x 907, and there is no extra space at all.

 

[Rololux]

No, not possible. 2 x 904 is much higher than 1 x 907, and there is no extra space at all.

Ok, there goes my genius idea for today. Best have another beer!

 

[Wesel]

Ok, there goes my genius idea for today. Best have another beer!

Cheers

 

[2into1]

Wish someone could give me a similar detailed explanation of how to use these.... As either a replacement of the 907 or as a supplement as per sidepod's post

 

[California4x4]

Wish someone could give me a similar detailed explanation of how to use these.... As either a replacement of the 907 or as a supplement as per sidepod's post
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I believe all you need to do is do what @sidepod did and then add one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UMY6YSQ/?tag=eliteelect-21

 

[Jodalo]

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I believe all you need to do is do what @sidepod did and then add one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UMY6YSQ/?tag=eliteelect-21

Can’t really see the point. We always carry a 907 spare in the boot, which is also very handy when cooking with a large burner attached to the 907 in the awning. We’ve yet to run out of Gaz.

 

[California4x4]

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Can’t really see the point. We always carry a 907 spare in the boot, which is also very handy when cooking with a large burner attached to the 907 in the awning. We’ve yet to run out of Gaz.

Ahhh but @2into1 asked how they could use the disposable canisters in their California, not whether they should carry an additional 907.

 

[2into1]

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Can’t really see the point. We always carry a 907 spare in the boot, which is also very handy when cooking with a large burner attached to the 907 in the awning. We’ve yet to run out of Gaz.

I use my stove infrequently. I've no idea how much gas I have. I'm carrying the full weight of the iron bottle but could run out on the next cup of tea. I can buy those cannisters with a lower cost of gas / kg than a 907 refill. I can also buy them in any half sized supermarket rather than having to drive maybe 50 miles in Scotland to get ripped off for a 907. If I have 3 of those canisters in the cupboard and one attached, I know pretty accurately how much gas I have.

 

[Jodalo]

I use my stove infrequently. I've no idea how much gas I have. I'm carrying the full weight of the iron bottle but could run out on the next cup of tea. I can buy those cannisters with a lower cost of gas / kg than a 907 refill. I can also buy them in any half sized supermarket rather than having to drive maybe 50 miles in Scotland to get ripped off for a 907. If I have 3 of those canisters in the cupboard and one attached, I know pretty accurately how much gas I have.

I always know how much gas I have left by weighing the 907 (there is a weight chart on this site). I use a spare for other reasons which negates interfering with the original installation. In addition the 907’s are re-usable unlike the disposable cartridges referred to. Also, as we tend to travel light weight is not critical to us and as the supplier of 907’s is near it’s not a problem. I understand everybody has their own preferences, but I don’t see that it’s worth all the hassle for the relatively little benefit.

 

[JerryB]

I carry a 904 in the boot as a spare.

 

[2into1]

I always know how much gas I have left by weighing the 907 (there is a weight chart on this site). I use a spare for other reasons which negates interfering with the original installation. In addition the 907’s are re-usable unlike the disposable cartridges referred to. Also, as we tend to travel light weight is not critical to us and as the supplier of 907’s is near it’s not a problem. I understand everybody has their own preferences, but I don’t see that it’s worth all the hassle for the relatively little benefit.

Each to their own perhaps. I've explained my position.

 

[GrannyJen]

I use my stove infrequently. I've no idea how much gas I have. I'm carrying the full weight of the iron bottle but could run out on the next cup of tea. I can buy those cannisters with a lower cost of gas / kg than a 907 refill. I can also buy them in any half sized supermarket rather than having to drive maybe 50 miles in Scotland to get ripped off for a 907. If I have 3 of those canisters in the cupboard and one attached, I know pretty accurately how much gas I have.

totally off topic but ...

Those little canisters power the CAG bistro stove. The bistro stove is probably the best accessory I have ever bought. You can pick one up for around £7.50, tucks into any narrow left-over space in the boot, on any decent evening is a better alternative to cooking in the can and at a pinch with decent ventilation and a CO detector nearby can be used in the van.

I'm with you Peter on this one. I use my 907 infrequently. The one time it ran out on me on the road I travelled miles to find a replacement. Now I carry three or four of those little cylinders with me plus the bistro stove. Should the lump of iron in it's compartment fail on me I have an alternative until replacing it is convenient.

 

[California4x4]

Thanks @westfalia (*edit sorry I meant @sidepod) for the idea. Some time ago I changed the regulator and put a quick release connector to enable easier changing of the 907 cylinder. I have just added another regulator and quick release which allows a quick swap to portable screw in canisters that I carry anyway to act as a reserve if I run out of gas in the 907. It works seamlessly.

The photo shows the quick release connector disconnected from the cylinder (after turning off the regulator) and the reserve canister connected via another regulator and quick release connector.


If concerned the Empty 907 can be removed, the small reserve cylinder left in its place and the lid replaced on the gas locker so it is as safe as VW designed it.

 

[westfalia]

Thanks @westfalia for the idea. Some time ago I changed the regulator and put a quick release connector to enable easier changing of the 907 cylinder. I have just added another regulator and quick release which allows a quick swap to portable screw in canisters that I carry anyway to act as a reserve if I run out of gas in the 907. It works seamlessly.

The photo shows the quick release connector disconnected from the cylinder (after turning off the regulator) and the reserve canister connected via another regulator and quick release connector.
View attachment 64170

If concerned the Empty 907 can be removed, the small reserve cylinder left in its place and the lid replaced on the gas locker so it is as safe as VW designed it.

Hang on - there's a mix up there man.
The thanks is for @sidepod

 

[Elly Swanson]

I believe all you need to do is do what @sidepod did and then add one of these:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UMY6YSQ/?tag=eliteelect-21

I use one of those adapters with my Trangia gas burner. Had a load of those cannisters so it was worth getting the adapter which works well. That’s for outdoor cooking on my Firebox stove though.

 

[soulstyledevon]

Thanks @westfalia (*edit sorry I meant @sidepod) for the idea. Some time ago I changed the regulator and put a quick release connector to enable easier changing of the 907 cylinder. I have just added another regulator and quick release which allows a quick swap to portable screw in canisters that I carry anyway to act as a reserve if I run out of gas in the 907. It works seamlessly.

The photo shows the quick release connector disconnected from the cylinder (after turning off the regulator) and the reserve canister connected via another regulator and quick release connector.
View attachment 64170

If concerned the Empty 907 can be removed, the small reserve cylinder left in its place and the lid replaced on the gas locker so it is as safe as VW designed it.

That looks great.
Quick release is a great idea. I’ve often pondered about powering an outside cooker off the 907 with a bit of 1m length hose...
Do you have a link for the quick releases or name/type...?

 

[sidepod]

That looks great.
Quick release is a great idea. I’ve often pondered about powering an outside cooker off the 907 with a bit of 1m length hose...
Do you have a link for the quick releases or name/type...?
[/https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/15901719/cadac-8mm-quick-release-coupling-15901719