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Ok we’ve all been there. Run out of gas for the hob. Obvs it never runs out as you’re driving down the road but just as you’re finishing off the jus for the steak. When that happens you’ll get “the look” from the Mrs. Nobody wants that. !

Here’s the solution. Strap in.

As ever, based on a 4 but fully applicable to 5,6 and 7’s (when they arrive).

You will need one of these
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one of these
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Inside the gas cubicle, snip the hose and install the T piece.

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re-install the 907 and the small back-up canister
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So now when the hob supply fails simply isolate the valve on the 907 and open the valve of the small canister regulator.
Back in the game. Buy a full 907 at your convenience.

I guess there are gauges to check levels etc but they’re accurate to +/- five camping trips. With this system you can use every last bit of gas. I’ve always carried a spare 907 for the Cadac which stood in as a spare for the hob. No need anymore. Cadac now runs off the small canisters.

Don’t clap, just throw money.:cheers
 
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Ok we’ve all been there. Run out of gas for the hob. Obvs it never runs out as you’re driving down the road but just as you’re finishing off the jus for the steak. When that happens you’ll get “the look” from the Mrs. Nobody wants that. !

Here’s the solution. Strap in.

As ever, based on a 4 but fully applicable to 5,6 and 7’s (when they arrive).

You will need one of these
View attachment 63755
one of these
View attachment 63756
Inside the gas cubicle, snip the hose and install the T piece.

View attachment 63757
re-install the 907 and the small back-up canister
View attachment 63758
View attachment 63759
So now when the hob supply fails simply isolate the valve on the 907 and open the valve of the small canister regulator.
Back in the game. Buy a full 907 at your convenience.

I guess there are gauges to check levels etc but they’re accurate to +/- five camping trips. With this system you can use every last bit of gas. I’ve always carried a spare 907 for the Cadac which stood in as a spare for the hob. No need anymore. Cadac now runs off the small canisters.

Don’t clap, just throw money.:cheers
Don’t think there is room in the T5/6/6.1 gas locker for anything else, even a small cartridge.
However I use a Calor Campingaz Regulator and a quick release gas connector in the Rubber gas line. Calor regulator has built in tap.
Close tap, disconnect quick release. Lift out 907 and spin off regulator. Fit regulator to 904 or even 901 cylinder. Back into gas locker and re-connect quick release and open tap.

How to and Parts needed.

 
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Interesting I carried a 901when you could get them as a reserve bottle when we 1st started on the camper van road.
 
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Ok we’ve all been there. Run out of gas for the hob. Obvs it never runs out as you’re driving down the road but just as you’re finishing off the jus for the steak. When that happens you’ll get “the look” from the Mrs. Nobody wants that. !

Here’s the solution. Strap in.

As ever, based on a 4 but fully applicable to 5,6 and 7’s (when they arrive).

You will need one of these
View attachment 63755
one of these
View attachment 63756
Inside the gas cubicle, snip the hose and install the T piece.

View attachment 63757
re-install the 907 and the small back-up canister
View attachment 63758
View attachment 63759
So now when the hob supply fails simply isolate the valve on the 907 and open the valve of the small canister regulator.
Back in the game. Buy a full 907 at your convenience.

I guess there are gauges to check levels etc but they’re accurate to +/- five camping trips. With this system you can use every last bit of gas. I’ve always carried a spare 907 for the Cadac which stood in as a spare for the hob. No need anymore. Cadac now runs off the small canisters.

Don’t clap, just throw money.:cheers
Great stuff. I have a quick release for my regulator and I’d like to be able to connect a camping gas canister when required. Can you share a link for that regulator please?
 
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Is it possible to fit 2 904 cylinders in a T6? Only one connected, the other as a spare below. I know the gas will be more expensive, but it means you always have a reserve. I’m pretty sure my Dad used to do this on his old Bedford CF250 Autosleeper in the 70’s. But that’s going back a while!
 
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Is it possible to fit 2 904 cylinders in a T6? Only one connected, the other as a spare below. I know the gas will be more expensive, but it means you always have a reserve. I’m pretty sure my Dad used to do this on his old Bedford CF250 Autosleeper in the 70’s. But that’s going back a while!
Remember the gas cylinder and regulator are fitted within a “ Gas Locker “ that is vented outside the interior in case of a leak. You can certainly carry a Full sealed 907/904 or 901 cylinder as a spare within the vehicle.
 
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Remember the gas cylinder and regulator are fitted within a “ Gas Locker “ that is vented outside the interior in case of a leak. You can certainly carry a Full sealed 907/904 or 901 cylinder as a spare within the vehicle.
No, I understand this - the question is, is there room in the Gas locker for 2 904’s Instead of 1 907?
 
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No, not possible. 2 x 904 is much higher than 1 x 907, and there is no extra space at all.
 
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Wish someone could give me a similar detailed explanation of how to use these.... As either a replacement of the 907 or as a supplement as per sidepod's post
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Wish someone could give me a similar detailed explanation of how to use these.... As either a replacement of the 907 or as a supplement as per sidepod's post
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I believe all you need to do is do what @sidepod did and then add one of these:
 
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I believe all you need to do is do what @sidepod did and then add one of these:
Can’t really see the point. We always carry a 907 spare in the boot, which is also very handy when cooking with a large burner attached to the 907 in the awning. We’ve yet to run out of Gaz.
 
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Can’t really see the point. We always carry a 907 spare in the boot, which is also very handy when cooking with a large burner attached to the 907 in the awning. We’ve yet to run out of Gaz.
Ahhh but @2into1 asked how they could use the disposable canisters in their California, not whether they should carry an additional 907.
 
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Can’t really see the point. We always carry a 907 spare in the boot, which is also very handy when cooking with a large burner attached to the 907 in the awning. We’ve yet to run out of Gaz.
I use my stove infrequently. I've no idea how much gas I have. I'm carrying the full weight of the iron bottle but could run out on the next cup of tea. I can buy those cannisters with a lower cost of gas / kg than a 907 refill. I can also buy them in any half sized supermarket rather than having to drive maybe 50 miles in Scotland to get ripped off for a 907. If I have 3 of those canisters in the cupboard and one attached, I know pretty accurately how much gas I have.
 
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I use my stove infrequently. I've no idea how much gas I have. I'm carrying the full weight of the iron bottle but could run out on the next cup of tea. I can buy those cannisters with a lower cost of gas / kg than a 907 refill. I can also buy them in any half sized supermarket rather than having to drive maybe 50 miles in Scotland to get ripped off for a 907. If I have 3 of those canisters in the cupboard and one attached, I know pretty accurately how much gas I have.
I always know how much gas I have left by weighing the 907 (there is a weight chart on this site). I use a spare for other reasons which negates interfering with the original installation. In addition the 907’s are re-usable unlike the disposable cartridges referred to. Also, as we tend to travel light weight is not critical to us and as the supplier of 907’s is near it’s not a problem. I understand everybody has their own preferences, but I don’t see that it’s worth all the hassle for the relatively little benefit.
 
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I always know how much gas I have left by weighing the 907 (there is a weight chart on this site). I use a spare for other reasons which negates interfering with the original installation. In addition the 907’s are re-usable unlike the disposable cartridges referred to. Also, as we tend to travel light weight is not critical to us and as the supplier of 907’s is near it’s not a problem. I understand everybody has their own preferences, but I don’t see that it’s worth all the hassle for the relatively little benefit.
Each to their own perhaps. I've explained my position.
 
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I use my stove infrequently. I've no idea how much gas I have. I'm carrying the full weight of the iron bottle but could run out on the next cup of tea. I can buy those cannisters with a lower cost of gas / kg than a 907 refill. I can also buy them in any half sized supermarket rather than having to drive maybe 50 miles in Scotland to get ripped off for a 907. If I have 3 of those canisters in the cupboard and one attached, I know pretty accurately how much gas I have.

totally off topic but ...

Those little canisters power the CAG bistro stove. The bistro stove is probably the best accessory I have ever bought. You can pick one up for around £7.50, tucks into any narrow left-over space in the boot, on any decent evening is a better alternative to cooking in the can and at a pinch with decent ventilation and a CO detector nearby can be used in the van.

I'm with you Peter on this one. I use my 907 infrequently. The one time it ran out on me on the road I travelled miles to find a replacement. Now I carry three or four of those little cylinders with me plus the bistro stove. Should the lump of iron in it's compartment fail on me I have an alternative until replacing it is convenient.
 
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