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I have also just been pondering this.

Taking our case as an example, we have a 2019 Cali Beach 150ps dsg which we collected in late October but taxed from Nov 1st. So if we were to SORN online today I should receive a cheque for seven months un-used VED. You do not get a refund for the whopping first year registration fee but you are refunded at the second year VED rate which is currently £145 + £320 = £465. Therefore our refund should be £465 ÷12 × 7 = £271.25p which works out at £38.75 pm. Now assuming the lock down lasts for three months, I would be saving £116.25 or would I?

As far as I have read, the Government's VED regime is changing as of tommorrow inline with the more realistic WTLP (at least I think that's what the abrieviation is) pollution testing method. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find out how the increase in VED will effect our vehicle. I know we will have to pay more to re -tax it when the time comes but how much is uncertain. In any case we would only be bringing forward the inevitable. So is my SORNing our vehicle worth it? I would be making a saving but not that much. The only major advantage that I can see is that I won't have to raid the piggy bank to pay the VED and Insurance at the same time when due.

Not sure if I can be bothered.

VW insurance services said they weren't interested and the insurance is unaffected.
So what happens to the 5 year period of increased VED if you do this? Does it pause and then run for the remainder of the 5 years or does it continue to click down whilst the vehicle is sorned?
 
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Just be wary of getting conned into paying a fee to sorn your vehicle. There are lots of 'agents' (or scrots) who are advertising on Google and appearing at the top of the search results for "sorn my vehicle". They charge you upwards of £40 to do what you can do for free if you find the correct gov.uk site.
 
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So what happens to the 5 year period of increased VED if you do this? Does it pause and then run for the remainder of the 5 years or does it continue to click down whilst the vehicle is sorned?
I'm not sure.
 
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So what happens to the 5 year period of increased VED if you do this? Does it pause and then run for the remainder of the 5 years or does it continue to click down whilst the vehicle is sorned?
I asked the very same point earlier in this thread (or a similar current one). Someone said the 5 (effectively 6 actually) period of higher rates would end at the same point, but offered no proof or other logic/detail.
If you sorn for 3 months, your tax renewals will have moved 3 months from your reg date, so the fifth one will be in the 5 years and 3 months from your reg date, and I suspect it will be at the full higher rate (£450ish). Otherwise, you could sorn for a day (effectively a month) even in non crisis times and save yourself £305 which would tempt more folk.
If you sorned for 12 months (and perhaps a day?), I could see how that might bring that 5th renewal down to £145ish
Let’s hope we don’t get into that territory! I’m curious (having owned a 2017) but not impacted as I now have an early T5 which is my only vehicle.
 
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Can’t find anything about it on dvla or gov websites. May just be worth trying for a month and see what happens at renewal in a few years time. You never know.
 
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I am sure its 5 years from the date of registration regardless of what you do with the vehicle.
And Im sure its 6 its the initial registration - year one and five further years.
 
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I don't know how much it will save if you SORN your Cali
but im sure many people here could afford to just let it ride.

Small businesses and one man bands are really going through
the mill at this time and as far as i can see the government are trying
their best to help them, but where does that money come from.

If 5 million SORNd their cars tomorrow then that would leave
a big hole in the coffers.

How much do you lot pay for the NHS, not much because its expected.
So when you SORN your car this week and need healthcare next week, whilst
you're led in the back of a meat wagon have a think about where the money
is coming from.

Of course, i am the odd one out by thinking this way as ive been
told from a
I don't know how much it will save if you SORN your Cali
but im sure many people here could afford to just let it ride.

Small businesses and one man bands are really going through
the mill at this time and as far as i can see the government are trying
their best to help them, but where does that money come from.

If 5 million SORNd their cars tomorrow then that would leave
a big hole in the coffers.

How much do you lot pay for the NHS, not much because its expected.
So when you SORN your car this week and need healthcare next week, whilst
you're led in the back of a meat wagon have a think about where the money
is coming from.

Of course, i am the odd one out by thinking this way as ive been
told from a few friends in blighty.
Anyway,

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Renewed in last month at £465 for the year, its bad enough seeing it just sit on the drive without it costing me £40 a month VED for the privilege.....
So my VED ran out yesterday and today being the 1st April I popped on the the DVLA site to renew it.

The V11 reminder says £465.

The DVLA website says £475.

Huh? Apparently VED went up (immediately) in the most recent budget. Who knew?!

I tried doing over the phone and they've got a pre recorded message saying that if your V11 price differs from price now demanded that this is correct.

Still, small beer in the grand scheme of things, but a new one on me.
 
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Just Sorn Cali as i doubt i will be using it over the next 6 months (£250 plus saving so worth having) and even if I did because i live in a tourist area I would be too worried about parking it up in case it gets damaged. Noticed a camper van the other day in the local super market car park with a notice on the window saying "I am not a tourist I live here"

Anybody know what Admirals stance is on Sorning ?
EmailEd Admiral and told them 2 cars ( Cali plus MX5) were SORNed and off the highway.They’ve replied saying no problem still covered on my multI car policy.
 
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So my VED ran out yesterday and today being the 1st April I popped on the the DVLA site to renew it.

The V11 reminder says £465.

The DVLA website says £475.

Huh? Apparently VED went up (immediately) in the most recent budget. Who knew?!

I tried doing over the phone and they've got a pre recorded message saying that if your V11 price differs from price now demanded that this is correct.

Still, small beer in the grand scheme of things, but a new one on me.
If you had renewed on or before the 31st then you would have had the old rate, unfortunately you waited.
 
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Did Sorn on 31st March and got refund cheque today. I've maintained insurance cover and just received email from insurers , Comfort. This is from the FAQ section re effect of Sorn on insurance cover. Of course this may differ depending on your own insurers terms but I'm quite happy with the feedback

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So 2 months on, who's thinking they will re tax in June for day trips for exercise or wait another month.
 
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So 2 months on, who's thinking they will re tax in June for day trips for exercise or wait another month.
I think I’m holding off-sorned it in March and I have only took it round my close to move the tyres and turn the engine over. Even if half way through the month things look a bit better and I decide to tax it then, it’s backdated as a full month. However if nowt constructive happens ( and I really don’t think it will until July / August ) I’ll reviewnext month
But mines not a daily driver
 
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Having looked at the cost saving I decided not to bother to SORN. Perhaps I was daft but I took the view that if everyone had done it the Government will only have to impose even greater taxation to fill the hole in the tax revenue when things get back to something like normal.

As it was I used our van for the first time yesterday. We went shopping for us, our elderly neighbours and my ninety one year old father. Whilst out we decided to have a picnic and exercise.................our eye lids in the closed position. It was glorious.
 
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Having looked at the cost saving I decided not to bother to SORN. Perhaps I was daft but I took the view that if everyone had done it the Government will only have to impose even greater taxation to fill the hole in the tax revenue when things get back to something like normal.

As it was I used our van for the first time yesterday. We went shopping for us, our elderly neighbours and my ninety one year old father. Whilst out we decided to have a picnic and exercise.................our eye lids. It was glorious.
How were the flat spots Borris, did they add the character you were hoping for.

Re tax I took the view the government had plenty off me in September when I bought the van through VAT and the extra purchase tax.
 
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