Sorning your Cali in the current climate

[soulstyledevon]

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3 motorbikes
3 cars
1 California

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You’ve got to many vehicles ....

 

[Vagophile]

Same here, including the Renault.

DVLA Form V11Z

 

[Borris]

I imagine the restrictions will have quite an impact on the dogging community!

Is that permitted as their one form of daily exercise?

 

[Vagophile]

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3 motorbikes
3 cars
1 California

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How do you arrange insurance? Do you insure them individually or collectively?
If I had space, I would have a car for every day of the month - daft I know, but whatever turns you on!

 

[B J G]

Are you sure that's correct VD? I've always thought that you had to sorn whether VED was payable or not. I have a 1909 Renault that's been awaiting a mechanical restoration for about five years. I SORNed it when I took it off the road and nothing was said then.

A strange one really as no VED or MOT required but then to use a Public Highway Insurance required, but if no Insurance then no road use (if a law abiding owner). Think I'm going in circles now....

Probably needs SORN to stop automatic fine process for no VED kicking in.

 

[Amarillo]

Is that permitted as their one form of daily exercise?

So long as it is not conducted in groups of more than two.

And some would say that you can't drive to a local beauty spot to do it, but I think that the regulations are silent on that point.

 

[Borris]

You are correct BJG. Older vehicles like mine don't require an MOT but you still have to apply for VED every year even though there is a zero tariff. You can SORN if the vehicle isn't being used on the road but it's advisable to both inform your insurance provider and maintain basic insurance for fire and theft at least. If you are using it on the road then you require insurance for such.

 

[jillyfish]

Hello folks...

havent been on here for a few days, in light of the climate, but have just noticed others discussing sorning their Calis' and thinking about doing it too. So our Cali was collected new, from dealer 10 days ago on 19th March. If i contact DVLA today to request SORN, does that mean i will be refunded 11 months of the first year's VED? I would choose just to put the tax on hold if this is possible and not sure what the implications are for insurance. Aware that it is the last day of the month, so should decide and act today, but can anyone advise what will happen? it doesnt seem likely that there will be person on the end of the phone at the DVLA to chat about this with, and should I also advise my insurance company and what view will they take? being that my tax commenced 2/3 way through the month how will this affect me? just not sure how to proceed. any help appreciated.

 

[Loz]

I would just do it online... https://www.gov.uk/make-a-sorn

 

[Velma's Dad]

So long as it is not conducted in groups of more than two.

.. and from the same household (so kind of defeats the object, I guess).

 

[WelshGas]

Hello folks...

havent been on here for a few days, in light of the climate, but have just noticed others discussing sorning their Calis' and thinking about doing it too. So our Cali was collected new, from dealer 10 days ago on 19th March. If i contact DVLA today to request SORN, does that mean i will be refunded 11 months of the first year's VED? I would choose just to put the tax on hold if this is possible and not sure what the implications are for insurance. Aware that it is the last day of the month, so should decide and act today, but can anyone advise what will happen? it doesnt seem likely that there will be person on the end of the phone at the DVLA to chat about this with, and should I also advise my insurance company and what view will they take? being that my tax commenced 2/3 way through the month how will this affect me? just not sure how to proceed. any help appreciated.

You must inform your Insurance company. The first year VED includes Registration and Luxury vehicle, over £40,000 , tax. You will only get back whole months of VED, so how much that is I have no idea.
As far as insurance, some allow some void cover and some change to a different kind of policy.

 

[jillyfish]

You must inform your Insurance company. The first year VED includes Registration and Luxury vehicle, over £40,000 , tax. You will only get back whole months of VED, so how much that is I have no idea.
As far as insurance, some allow some void cover and some change to a different kind of policy.

thanks. Its looking like it could be quite a long time out of use, and seems likely to be stopped if i take it out for a run on the M5? will others be taking theirs out for a drive to maintain? I have not even got a elec charge cable and will need to order on quick to plug in every few weeks if not in use. I had planned to visit the shop in Bolsover, but will order on line.

 

[B J G]

thanks. Its looking like it could be quite a long time out of use, and seems likely to be stopped if i take it out for a run on the M5? will others be taking theirs out for a drive to maintain? I have not even got a elec charge cable and will need to order on quick to plug in every few weeks if not in use. I had planned to visit the shop in Bolsover, but will order on line.

technically taking out for a run isn't classed as essential travel so might run foul of any Police enforcement, as you say.
I'm having the same issue with both the Cali and my 1966 reg car which was due its Spring airing.

 

[Scoobz1]

Just Sorn Cali as i doubt i will be using it over the next 6 months (£250 plus saving so worth having) and even if I did because i live in a tourist area I would be too worried about parking it up in case it gets damaged. Noticed a camper van the other day in the local super market car park with a notice on the window saying "I am not a tourist I live here"

Anybody know what Admirals stance is on Sorning ?

 

[a892374923874]

Thinking of sorning mine today. It was new in September 2019. LV said yesterday that there is no change to the cover whether sorned or not but said I could reduce mileage etc if I wanted to. Not sure how much the retaxing will be when the time comes.

 

[jillyfish]

Thinking of sorning mine today. It was new in September 2019. LV said yesterday that there is no change to the cover whether sorned or not but said I could reduce mileage etc if I wanted to. Not sure how much the retaxing will be when the time comes.

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

 

[Elmo3]

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

Are you saying you are not now insured? What if it’s stolen / vandalised / catches fire / tree falls on it etc etc?

 

[Borris]

I have also just been pondering this.

Taking our case as an example, we have a 2019 Cali Beach 150ps dsg which we collected in late October but taxed from Nov 1st. So if we were to SORN online today I should receive a cheque for seven months un-used VED. You do not get a refund for the whopping first year registration fee but you are refunded at the second year VED rate which is currently £145 + £320 = £465. Therefore our refund should be £465 ÷12 × 7 = £271.25p which works out at £38.75 pm. Now assuming the lock down lasts for three months, I would be saving £116.25 or would I?

As far as I have read, the Government's VED regime is changing as of tommorrow inline with the more realistic WTLP (at least I think that's what the abrieviation is) pollution testing method. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find out how the increase in VED will effect our vehicle. I know we will have to pay more to re -tax it when the time comes but how much is uncertain. In any case we would only be bringing forward the inevitable. So is my SORNing our vehicle worth it? I would be making a saving but not that much. The only major advantage that I can see is that I won't have to raid the piggy bank to pay the VED and Insurance at the same time when due.

Not sure if I can be bothered.

VW insurance services said they weren't interested and the insurance is unaffected.

 

[Jodalo]

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

I know it’s your decision re insurance but that seems a very risky move. Especially with such a high value item.

 

[Borris]

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

Cancelling your VED is one thing but you MUST maintain your insurance. If they won't insure a SORNed vehicle then don't SORN it.

 

[vananarama]

Who's "reliably informing" you of such plans?

Clearly someone who had been unreliably informed themselves.


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[BeagleMum]

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

Sorning is obviously down to personal views / circumstances. Ours was new last June, we’ve no intention of sorning it. As soon as the essential travel ban is eased and we are able to move albeit possibly within a defined local area we will out to give it a run. Whether that will be in 3 months or longer we are prepared to take the gamble.
We really wouldn’t leave ours uninsured, hope it works out for you.

 

[Elmo3]

I have also just been pondering this.

Taking our case as an example, we have a 2019 Cali Beach 150ps dsg which we collected in late October but taxed from Nov 1st. So if we were to SORN online today I should receive a cheque for seven months un-used VED. You do not get a refund for the whopping first year registration fee but you are refunded at the second year VED rate which is currently £145 + £320 = £465. Therefore our refund should be £465 ÷12 × 7 = £271.25p which works out at £38.75 pm. Now assuming the lock down lasts for three months, I would be saving £116.25 or would I?

As far as I have read, the Government's VED regime is changing as of tommorrow inline with the more realistic WTLP (at least I think that's what the abrieviation is) pollution testing method. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find out how the increase in VED will effect our vehicle. I know we will have to pay more to re -tax it when the time comes but how much is uncertain. In any case we would only be bringing forward the inevitable. So is my SORNing our vehicle worth it? I would be making a saving but not that much. The only major advantage that I can see is that I won't have to raid the piggy bank to pay the VED and Insurance at the same time when due.

Not sure if I can be bothered.

VW insurance services said they weren't interested and the insurance is unaffected.

We’re keeping it road ready. Will use to go shopping occasionally (nearest supermarket 8 miles away) so it gets a run, albeit short. We’ll both go to make sure it doesn’t get keyed in the car park.

 

[WelshGas]

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

If your vehicle is now uninsured then I would suggest not charging the Leisure Batteries, as VW advise, just in case the charger malfunctions, rare I know, and cause a fire..

 

[andyinluton]

I have just applied the sorn to my new cali (sob) and also advised insurance provider who say they will not insure when sorn applied. they have put a hold on insurance tho and I can reinstate when needed, and they say will refund days not in use (providing the total period of non use is more than 28 days) no charges for doing this, so seems fair. Cali is parked on private road in our small parking space/drive area so trust it will not be damaged or stolen.....I was in two minds whether to go ahead, due to the unknowns, but lets tempt providence and hope to reinstate before the summer gets here....

Your mad, whats happens when your neighbor reverses into it / tree falls on it etc etc