The New T7 California can be ordered from today in Germany + configurator.

Sounds like a BMW....

Yep the Hybrid X5 does 32-37mpg on a run with a flat battery / AWD.....

A 1.4 TSI in a Cali....nope. Wouldn't touch a defender PHEV with the 4 pot 2.0l
FFRR P400 SWB SE
 
That's impressive.....the 2.0l in the full fat was a little bit juicy, particularly in the Defender, so nice to see the straight 6...... assume I had this engine in the P400 and it did sound good. But I flipped it after it turned up 11.5months late and I had bought the BMW instead
 
Apart from the BIK tax relief there’s no logical reason (to me) for purchasing a PHEV. Worst of both worlds, normal ICE serving costs and problems, battery range of 10-30 miles, still needs plugging in and no fast charge capability, so realistically can only be done at home, Multivan takes 3 hours 36 minutes according to VW spec sheet.The multivan has a reduced size fuel tank too, only 45 litres. To me they’re a complete waste of time, I’ve delivered quite a few PHEV and the the mpg on a long journey is abysmal, I often get customers complaining that the battery is empty when I handover, hardly surprising as I’ve just driven it 150 miles, 120 miles of which was lugging an empty battery around.

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Very much sums up my experience of owning (leading), a PHEV.

BIK was the driver. Real world EV range 20 miles on average. Worked fir local runs.

Massively expensive on journeys over 60 miles where I couldn’t charge in between legs.
 
Opposite. The Outlander would do 38/40mpg all day long with zero battery but performance was woeful at 120hp.

Volvo XC40 mild hybrid has averaged 45mpg from a 2.0l petrol....over 31,600miles

The BMW is just silly. 32-37mpg from a 2.5 ton / AWD 3.0l petrol that can still dash 0-60 well below 6 seconds and march on to 149mph.
 
It looks like the new 4motion PHEV California is available for order in Germany. Still not open for orders in the UK yet but hopefully all 3 engine options are released at once when it becomes available here.
 
Multvan California opens for UK order’s tomorrow apparently.
 
It looks like the new 4motion PHEV California is available for order in Germany. Still not open for orders in the UK yet but hopefully all 3 engine options are released at once when it becomes available here.
It's also not available in Switzerland, at least via the configurator, but I'm told it should be available as of December.
 
I think the T7 Ocean seems like the car for me. Leasing on my work green car scheme so it will need to be the PHEV. I think the main things will be price and payload of the PHEV. I already have an EV charger at home so it would suit as a daily driver. I can take my family away for long weekends, or trailer my kit car to track days around the country.
 
Just looking through the new T7 multivan california brochure - it suggests the pop top on the Coast is manual ? (as per existing T6 specs) - my previous investigations suggested it was powered like the Ocean - if this is the case i would opt for a Coast just to avoid the powered roof - i wonder if they will allow you to add the rear locker on the config as an option -
 
Just looking through the new T7 multivan california brochure - it suggests the pop top on the Coast is manual ? (as per existing T6 specs) - my previous investigations suggested it was powered like the Ocean - if this is the case i would opt for a Coast just to avoid the powered roof - i wonder if they will allow you to add the rear locker on the config as an option -
I was about to disagree with you because all of the T7 variants in Germany and Switzerland have a manual roof as standard with electric always as an option. Checking the UK online configurator, I see both the Coast and the Ocean with the electric roof with only the Beach having a manual one.Screenshot 2024-11-08 at 21.24.15.png
 
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