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VW California T5 ONLY Roof Corrosion - General Discussion

Where do you have the Roof Corrosion on your VW California?

  • Front panel only

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  • Main elevating roof only

    Votes: 74 15.1%
  • Both Front panel and main roof

    Votes: 237 48.3%

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    491
BEETS

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The tape goes under the rubber seal
I did a close inspection at the weekend on my roof… My van is 6 years old next week and will be out of warranty…. I found two small blisters just above the drivers head… It’s with VW warranty dept at the moment… looks like a full respray for me!!!!
 
BEETS

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I did a close inspection at the weekend on my roof… My van is 6 years old next week and will be out of warranty…. I found two small blisters just above the drivers head… It’s with VW warranty dept at the moment… looks like a full respray for me!!!!
I suggest everyone does the same at the point of a lapsing warranty…
 
WelshGas

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I suggest everyone does the same at the point of a lapsing warranty…
almost 7 years old and clean as a whistle , above and under the seal on the elevating section and front panel.
 
Ozzy Pete

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I did a close inspection at the weekend on my roof… My van is 6 years old next week and will be out of warranty…. I found two small blisters just above the drivers head… It’s with VW warranty dept at the moment… looks like a full respray for me!!!!
Are the blisters on the front panel or on the roof under the roof rubber seal itself? If it’s the front panel they will replace it with a plastic one. If it’s the actual roof they will only repair it if it’s through galvanic corrosion.
 
BEETS

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Are the blisters on the front panel or on the roof under the roof rubber seal itself? If it’s the front panel they will replace it with a plastic one. If it’s the actual roof they will only repair it if it’s through galvanic corrosion.
No… never had blisters on the front panel…. Mine are on the main part of the roof…
 
Ozzy Pete

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No… never had blisters on the front panel…. Mine are on the main part of the roof…
If the blisters are nothing to do with the galvanic corrosion problem I really doubt VW will do anything. I had the same thing happen on the front and rear bumpers where the lacquer just all peeled off at exactly the same time after 5 years. Contacted VWCC Went through all the usual procedure with paint depth readings all over the van. Came back to me saying they weren’t prepared to do anything so had to pay to have the work done myself. There was no way they would change their mind even though it was nothing I had done. They said the paint warranty was for 3 years. End of no discussion.
 
Lambeth Cali

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I have the same thing on my 2008 did you change anything to make them disappear?
No it just seems to get smaller and pretty much disappear. It's one metal reacting to another. Its not rust and nothing to do with water as I understand it.
When my van is 13 years old it's difficult to imagine it getting bad now. Why would it?
I wouldn't let any VW I have dealt with remove the rubber seal. There is zero chance I would trust them to put tape on and then put the seal back on. The ones near me are hopeless.
 
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I had my T5 2012 repaired for the galvanic corrosion problem on the front roof spoiler a bit over three years ago. Repair was done under "goodwill warranty" and paid by VW. Now I discovered that the sealant they have used have started to crack. When I took it to VW to have it examined, they say that they have to redo the whole operation and that the cost for this is approx 4500 EUR. The warranty for the warranty repair has expired and I have to pay for the new repair myself. Of course not happy with that response since I intend to use the car for many more years, and my expectations were that the repair should have a longer life time than 3 years!

Is there anyone that have had similar problems after having the front roof spoiler replaced by VW?
Any idea why this has happened? I guess the workshop must have done something wrong during the first repair, unless there are many more people out there with the same problem!?

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Ozzy Pete

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From your pi
I had my T5 2012 repaired for the galvanic corrosion problem on the front roof spoiler a bit over three years ago. Repair was done under "goodwill warranty" and paid by VW. Now I discovered that the sealant they have used have started to crack. When I took it to VW to have it examined, they say that they have to redo the whole operation and that the cost for this is approx 4500 EUR. The warranty for the warranty repair has expired and I have to pay for the new repair myself. Of course not happy with that response since I intend to use the car for many more years, and my expectations were that the repair should have a longer life time than 3 years!

Is there anyone that have had similar problems after having the front roof spoiler replaced by VW?
Any idea why this has happened? I guess the workshop must have done something wrong during the first repair, unless there are many more people out there with the same problem!?

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From your pictures it looks like the rubber roof seal has broken up. Could you replace the seal?
 
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From your pi

From your pictures it looks like the rubber roof seal has broken up. Could you replace the seal?
I believe that is what I have received a quote to do, but not sure. I have tried to get in touch with the workshop to have a more detailed discussion on causes and alternative solutions, but no response so far.
 
Ozzy Pete

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€4500 seems a bit excessive for a new roof seal. That’s something you could easily do yourself. The front would be more difficult but not impossible.
 
clarinetbcn

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I had my T5 2012 repaired for the galvanic corrosion problem on the front roof spoiler a bit over three years ago. Repair was done under "goodwill warranty" and paid by VW. Now I discovered that the sealant they have used have started to crack. When I took it to VW to have it examined, they say that they have to redo the whole operation and that the cost for this is approx 4500 EUR. The warranty for the warranty repair has expired and I have to pay for the new repair myself. Of course not happy with that response since I intend to use the car for many more years, and my expectations were that the repair should have a longer life time than 3 years!

Is there anyone that have had similar problems after having the front roof spoiler replaced by VW?
Any idea why this has happened? I guess the workshop must have done something wrong during the first repair, unless there are many more people out there with the same problem!?

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I had the front cap and the roof perimeter done by VW two years ago. The roof edge is ok, but the cap had to be sent back almost immediately fir an air leak which whistled at highway speeds. After repair it’s fine, but I can see the sealant starting to crack. I will bring this up at servicing next month.

Knowing the experience of others now, I would have let VW do the roof perimeter, but not the cut and patch plastic front cap. I would have taken it to a good body shop and had the one small patch of corrosion above the windshield resprayed.
 
haydnw2

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Does anyone have any recent experience with Audi Glasgow? Our T5.1 needs both the front cap and the under-seal work doing. I've been told they are now the only bodyshop VW van centres are allowed to use for these repairs, but previous comments about them on here are mixed / not filling me with confidence! I'm also not sure I want the van coming out of their workshop and all the way back down to the East Midlands without me looking at it first (I can see it being a pig to get it all the way back up there again if there is anything wrong, in terms of time and logistics). Thanks!
 
Ozzy Pete

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Does anyone have any recent experience with Audi Glasgow? Our T5.1 needs both the front cap and the under-seal work doing. I've been told they are now the only bodyshop VW van centres are allowed to use for these repairs, but previous comments about them on here are mixed / not filling me with confidence! I'm also not sure I want the van coming out of their workshop and all the way back down to the East Midlands without me looking at it first (I can see it being a pig to get it all the way back up there again if there is anything wrong, in terms of time and logistics). Thanks!
If I were you I would seriously consider reading the previous post and go along those lines. Years ago they would do a complete change to the front panel costing many thousands of pounds. Now the do a plastic cap overlay with tragic consequences. By all means have the main roof work done ( if you can find somewhere) but consider paying a body shop yourself to repair the front panel.
 
WelshGas

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For all its faults at least the California Aluminium Roof doesn’t crack.

 
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Hello All,

I know this is a massive subject and i would like help/advice with my van , as i am really unsure of what to do for the best.
I have owned my van for 7 years , it is 2011 , when i brought it secondhand i did not notice any damage but over the years i have noticed it gradually creeping in to the paintwork , i did take it to VW breeze in 2015 when they add me to the list for correcting the small amount of bubbling but at the time i was not too concerned and also i was scared of the update due to the horror stories i have read about other peoples van after they had the modification , so i have not progressed my fault with VW and i imagine i have lost the chance now due to the time gone past , which is my fault but now I would like to get it sorted as it is looking a lot worse.

I have the following questions which I would appreciate help with -

If i leave the problem as it is , what would happen is this a structural problem or is it more cosmetic and looks horrible with the paint coming off?

Can i approach a bodywork company to help me sort the problem and stop it getting it worse and can anyone recommend a decent company with VW California experience and i will pay myself?

Last option but would like to avoid as i do like my van , sell the California?

Below is some images to show the damage.

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That's what I'd heard so looks like I'll have to find a private fix :(
Anyone know of good paint repair companies with aluminium experience near Essex?
Hello, did you manage to find a local company, as I have the same issue?
 
ArunAlec

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Hello All,

I know this is a massive subject and i would like help/advice with my van , as i am really unsure of what to do for the best.
I have owned my van for 7 years , it is 2011 , when i brought it secondhand i did not notice any damage but over the years i have noticed it gradually creeping in to the paintwork , i did take it to VW breeze in 2015 when they add me to the list for correcting the small amount of bubbling but at the time i was not too concerned and also i was scared of the update due to the horror stories i have read about other peoples van after they had the modification , so i have not progressed my fault with VW and i imagine i have lost the chance now due to the time gone past , which is my fault but now I would like to get it sorted as it is looking a lot worse.

I have the following questions which I would appreciate help with -

If i leave the problem as it is , what would happen is this a structural problem or is it more cosmetic and looks horrible with the paint coming off?

Can i approach a bodywork company to help me sort the problem and stop it getting it worse and can anyone recommend a decent company with VW California experience and i will pay myself?

Last option but would like to avoid as i do like my van , sell the California?

Below is some images to show the damage.

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I would (and probably will in the next few years) find a classic car restoration company, who have experience with aluminium bodywork and simply get it treated and resprayed. I would not let VW near it with an angle grinder!
 
Ozzy Pete

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I would (and probably will in the next few years) find a classic car restoration company, who have experience with aluminium bodywork and simply get it treated and resprayed. I would not let VW near it with an angle grinder!
I would definitely go down the independent route. It may cost you a few quid but at least you know it’s been done properly and not butchered to death.
 

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