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californiakid

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Woke up early this morning, frosty but fine. Thought Cali coming up to 17 months old and almost 23000 miles.
I'll change the wheels round fronts to rear and vice versa, jack up and place axle stands and remove wheel bolts. Wheels seized solid to hubs and had to sledge hammer off after using WD 40. Corrosion like no tomorrow so cleaned up and applied copper slip. The moral of this being if I'd suffered a puncture there would be no chance of wheel removal and possibly calling VW emergency services would result in the same possibly leading to vehicle recovery and untold expense. All for the lack of some anti seize at production. Thanks VW...
Tread depths now 7mm to 8mm front and 5mm rears plus front outer and inner edges not feathered.
 
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Woke up early this morning, frosty but fine. Thought Cali coming up to 17 months old and almost 23000 miles.
I'll change the wheels round fronts to rear and vice versa, jack up and place axle stands and remove wheel bolts. Wheels seized solid to hubs and had to sledge hammer off after using WD 40. Corrosion like no tomorrow so cleaned up and applied copper slip. The moral of this being if I'd suffered a puncture there would be no chance of wheel removal and possibly calling VW emergency services would result in the same possibly leading to vehicle recovery and untold expense. All for the lack of some anti seize at production. Thanks VW...
Tread depths now 7mm to 8mm front and 5mm rears plus front outer and inner edges not feathered.
Good advice. Mine is still brand new but I picked up some copper slip and its sat in the Cali. I'll wait for a nice day and go find myself a nice flat spot and get it applied. Any advice on where. I presume just between the contact points between when and hub. I appreciate I've probably used up one of my daft questions but better safe than sorry.


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Good advice. Mine is still brand new but I picked up some copper slip and its sat in the Cali. I'll wait for a nice day and go find myself a nice flat spot and get it applied. Any advice on where. I presume just between the contact points between when and hub. I appreciate I've probably used up one of my daft questions but better safe than sorry.


Mike
Just a thin smear on the hub flange and the mating surface on the inner side of the wheel. As they say every little helps just don't go mad.
 
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Googled it and recommends between wheel and hub and on the bolts.
While I'm at it I will treat all the seals with the stuff I bought and thread lock the camping chairs.



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I change my steel wheels winter-summer and back myself so they come off pretty easy , always clean the hub with a brush or sandpaper and some copper spray.

Must say the alloys on the wife's Renault need more effort to come loose ...even had to use brutal force....

If the wheel don't come loose from the hub , put the bolts back in not thightend .
Then lower the jack putting some weight on the wheel , usually it is enough to come off without using a hammer and the risk of damage.
 
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I change twice a year between summer and winter tires and I now apply regular grease instead of copper paste inside the bolt holes, bolts and the hub.
In your case VW probably didn't fasten to proper tourque either but too much as all car shops does which makes it even worse.
 
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Must be me, but wheels have been off annually and never any problems. I know many people advise and use Copper Grease but there is also a body of opinion against its use, and there are reasons manufacturers don't use it, and I've never had any reason to use it.
 
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You must be lucky WelshGas, because like many owners, I found our wheels, really, really difficult to remove on our T5 when it was less than two years old. Definitely recommend the application of a little copper grease to the mating surfaces, rather than have the situation of a wheel needing changiing and refusing to come off.

I also apply a little to the thread on the wheel studs. I know this is not recommended because it can effect the toque setting when tightening, but I've done it ever since my rallying days way back in the 1960's and 70's, and I've never had a wheel become loose (yet)
 
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Alloy wheels?

Dare I say......Aluminium, steel and water = corrosion? Sound familiar?
 
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Wonder how long it takes for the wheels to 'lock on'. I had two punctures last summer and they certainly came off easily enough then - at about 5 months old.

Think I'll take @WelshGas's advice and remove all the wheels annually.
 
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It was my first problem with my Audi. Just after it had it first service. Took me ages to remove when I was stranded.

Had a puncture on the Cali and took the wheel off at home. Same problem. Old wire wheel hammer on the inside of the rim. Clean corrison on hub, copper grease, and refit.

Off for a service soon and I thought this was now a service item so will ask the question.
 
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Must be me, but wheels have been off annually and never any problems. I know many people advise and use Copper Grease but there is also a body of opinion against its use, and there are reasons manufacturers don't use it, and I've never had any reason to use it.
For the record i am not spraying copperpaste on the wheelhub ....
Gently brush of corrosion and spray some copperpaste on a cloth and wipe the hub clean...
 
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Wonder how long it takes for the wheels to 'lock on'. I had two punctures last summer and they certainly came off easily enough then - at about 5 months old.

Think I'll take @WelshGas's advice and remove all the wheels annually.
My wheels did not come off easily after 8 months only, no problem with summer / winter wheel changes now I use copperpaste grease. Both sets are alloys.
 
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Just spent the afternoon removing my wheels.They all came off with ease but to be safe I refitted with a smear of copper grease on the contact areas of the hub and wheel.
 
californiakid

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Think you'll find torque settings are for a lightly lubricated thread. After 50 years in the motor trade l'll stick with what I know.
 
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Think you'll find torque settings are for a lightly lubricated thread. After 50 years in the motor trade l'll stick with what I know.
Using a sledge hammer to take the wheel off ...?
 
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Yep pop into your local tyre fitment centre,bet they have one. Obviously use with care and only on the sidewall of the tyre.
 
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Yep pop into your local tyre fitment centre,bet they have one. Obviously use with care and only on the sidewall of the tyre.
Agree , but they know (or supposed to know) what they are doing .
Would not reccomend anyone getting under theire verhicle trowing a sledgehammer ....i'd keep it safe.
Btw hitting hammers on alloys is never a good thing to do .
When doing my militairy service in Gemany we used the sledghammer almost every time changing wheels off a MAN lorry .
And you don't want to know how we managed to get the tyre from the wheel itself....without a machine ...only hands and crowbars . If there was a smartphone back than , that would make a fun movie:D.
 
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