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SusiBus

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As everyone has said, 150 is Adequate.

I don't do Adequate. :thumb
I agree, we also don't do adequate.

You're already spending a shed load of money buying a California, especially if it's an Ocean. By allowing yourself to go that extra mile, your get a vehicle that is fabulous to drive, not adequate. Go test drive a 204 dsg!
 
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Agree with the above re the 150. Ours is a beach 150ps dsg. It’s totally adequate. Pulls nicely. Feels strong even loaded. The handling limits what you can do. I’d spend the cash on a better suspension set up. That’s the one thing I dislike. It leans into corners. Bounces you around when empty. The standard springs are not great imo. I’d like to get ours upgraded at some point. We run 215 tyres which people say add to the harsh ride feel so will change to 235s when it’s time. More power always nice and my other car I went for that but as others have said with the van haven’t felt the need for it. If you’ve got the cash then do it, if you’re making budget decisions the 150 will probably surprise you (in a good way).


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Agree with Neilos. Consider the Dynamic Chassis Control to tighten the suspension up on the twisties, softening up on the motorway/crashing through urban potholes.
 
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Well, adequate is such a thing.

If I go to the German California Online Conifugurator web page I could add a lot of options which I feel I need to have. What the he... it is expensive anyway. That brings me normally up into a EUR 97.000 price level.

But do I really need all that?

When my wife arranged the test drive for our Ocean it was a suprise for me. But it was with manual gears (I wished to have DSG) and FWD (I wished to have 4Motion and diff lock). After the test drive we discussed this over a coffee still at the VW dealer. The next available California with the things I would have loved to have was about EUR 8.000 more expensive (also demo model). But my wife argued that this would be too much. If we go ahead with the Ocean we just did the test drive we could manage to afford and would buy it and use it.

And so began our journey with the California.

Yes it is adequate for us. And after 3.5 years I love it even more and enjoy each kilometer.

Happy California,
Eberhard
 
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Well, adequate is such a thing.

If I go to the German California Online Conifugurator web page I could add a lot of options which I feel I need to have. What the he... it is expensive anyway. That brings me normally up into a EUR 97.000 price level.

But do I really need all that?

When my wife arranged the test drive for our Ocean it was a suprise for me. But it was with manual gears (I wished to have DSG) and FWD (I wished to have 4Motion and diff lock). After the test drive we discussed this over a coffee still at the VW dealer. The next available California with the things I would have loved to have was about EUR 8.000 more expensive (also demo model). But my wife argued that this would be too much. If we go ahead with the Ocean we just did the test drive we could manage to afford and would buy it and use it.

And so began our journey with the California.

Yes it is adequate for us. And after 3.5 years I love it even more and enjoy each kilometer.

Happy California,
Eberhard
you can change your wife - you cant change your california
 
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After having 2 T6 150hp Beaches and now a T6.1 Beach, I can tell you that the T6.1 is a lot more sluggish and hesitant at low speed. I would definitely take a 200hp option if it was available.
 
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After having 2 T6 150hp Beaches and now a T6.1 Beach, I can tell you that the T6.1 is a lot more sluggish and hesitant at low speed. I would definitely take a 200hp option if it was available.
That’s a bit concerning. Have you taken it back to VW to be checked?
 
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That’s a bit concerning. Have you taken it back to VW to be checked?
No… hoping it will improve once it’s learnt my Lewis Hamilton driving style. It is starting to annoy me a bit now though and may take it back if it doesn’t improve soon.
 
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After having 2 T6 150hp Beaches and now a T6.1 Beach, I can tell you that the T6.1 is a lot more sluggish and hesitant at low speed. I would definitely take a 200hp option if it was available.
Totally agree with this. My T6.1 Beach is also very sluggish. My T6 204 4Motion Ocean was much more powerful even with the extra weight of 4 Motion, kitchen, 4 dogs, passenger, small trailer and fully packed for camping.
I haven’t loaded the Beach up yet and it struggles on some nearby hills on a dual carriageway with just me and 2 dogs.
I am curious to see how I get on towing the Eriba...
If the 204 T6.1 Beach had been available in the UK I would have ordered it for sure.
 
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Actually I'm happy with the 89hp (I think) my current van has. The Cali will be heavier of course but those 60 odd extra hp will still be noticable.
End of the day it's a van. I have a 210hp motorbike sat in the garage if I want to "make progress", it's crap for sleeping in though ;)
 
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Don’t complain about performance unless you have owned a 1950s split screen combi. 1200 cc. 25 bhp. 45 mph (if you go down hill) top speed. 18 mpg. And they sell for £25k +... Doesn’t make sense...
 
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Actually I'm happy with the 89hp (I think) my current van has. The Cali will be heavier of course but those 60 odd extra hp will still be noticable.
End of the day it's a van. I have a 210hp motorbike sat in the garage if I want to "make progress", it's crap for sleeping in though ;)
So what I’m finding is where the T6 DSG would automatically come down a gear or two if I accelerated to over take or go up a hill, the T6.1 does not, it stays in the same gear and I quickly go from 70 to 60mph on the dual carriageway.
 
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So what I’m finding is where the T6 DSG would automatically come down a gear or two if I accelerated to over take or go up a hill, the T6.1 does not, it stays in the same gear and I quickly go from 70 to 60mph on the dual carriageway.
Get it remapped, might be set that way for emissions.
 
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Get it remapped, might be set that way for emissions.
I’m hoping it will improve once it’s been driven more. Less than 1500m so far. And it does seem to be getting better. Or I’m getting more used to it...
 
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I’m hoping it will improve once it’s been driven more. Less than 1500m so far. And it does seem to be getting better. Or I’m getting more used to it...
Are steering wheel flappy paddles an option on the T6.1? I find these really useful for overtaking.

I wonder if HazzyDayz or someone similar could replace your steering wheel to give you more control?
 
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So what I’m finding is where the T6 DSG would automatically come down a gear or two if I accelerated to over take or go up a hill, the T6.1 does not, it stays in the same gear and I quickly go from 70 to 60mph on the dual carriageway.
Never owned a T6, but on our 6.1 (150ps) I have been hugely impressed with the DSG, far superior to the same system on my 6 year old A6. I presume you are kicking down on the accelerator so that it "knows" you want to make progress?
 
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Never owned a T6, but on our 6.1 (150ps) I have been hugely impressed with the DSG, far superior to the same system on my 6 year old A6. I presume you are kicking down on the accelerator so that it "knows" you want to make progress?
Yes. I haven’t changed my driving style from my T6 or my (now sold) estate car which was automatic. This one just seems slower to respond.
 
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Yes. I haven’t changed my driving style from my T6 or my (now sold) estate car which was automatic. This one just seems slower to respond.
Our 6.1 was manufactured in Dec 2019. Perhaps there has been quite a change in the software to achieve the ever stricter emissions targets. Sorry to hear it is not quite what you were hoping for.
 
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Our 6.1 was manufactured in Dec 2019. Perhaps there has been quite a change in the software to achieve the ever stricter emissions targets. Sorry to hear it is not quite what you were hoping for.
I think that is the case. Just been to get my 2nd jab and kicked down hard coming onto dual carriageway on way home and nothing happened (was in 6 gear doing 50 at the time and nothing happened).
Maybe I need to use the tiptronic to force the gears to change.
The Adblue says 13000m range after 1500m - so clearly big changes (T6 was around 4000m when full) which I assume, like you, relates to emissions.
I still love the van - but anticipate changing to a 204 Beach as soon as it becomes available in UK - assuming it does in a few years.
 
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I think that is the case. Just been to get my 2nd jab and kicked down hard coming onto dual carriageway on way home and nothing happened (was in 6 gear doing 50 at the time and nothing happened).
Maybe I need to use the tiptronic to force the gears to change.
The Adblue says 13000m range after 1500m - so clearly big changes (T6 was around 4000m when full) which I assume, like you, relates to emissions.
I still love the van - but anticipate changing to a 204 Beach as soon as it becomes available in UK - assuming it does in a few years.
That sounds rubbish. If I am doing 50mph in sixth and kick down, it will easily drop a gear or two. It's really responsive, something has clearly changed. Does your DSG have "sport" mode? I know the current 6.1s only have "drive".
 
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That sounds rubbish. If I am doing 50mph in sixth and kick down, it will easily drop a gear or two. It's really responsive, something has clearly changed. Does your DSG have "sport" mode? I know the current 6.1s only have "drive".
No sport mode on the T6.1 DSG.
 

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