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The government has made it qute clear that mosques, churches, massage parlours and other places of worship are closed.
Did you slip the last one in as a place of worship Jen to see if we are paying attention?
 
Did you slip the last one in as a place of worship Jen to see if we are paying attention?

Many years ago when I lived in a small hamlet in the West Country a massage parlour in the local town was raided by the police.

They had a couple of clients in at the time. One of them managed to fasten his dog collar, and probably not much else, before the local constabulary escorted him out of the building :shocked
 
Many years ago when I lived in a small hamlet in the West Country a massage parlour in the local town was raided by the police.

They had a couple of clients in at the time. One of them managed to fasten his dog collar, and probably not much else, before the local constabulary escorted him out of the building :shocked
Glad to see it had a happy ending!:D:Iamsorry
 
Public toilets are a breeding ground for germs for obvious reasons. Would you like to risk you life cleaning after god knows who has been in there doing their business but also coughed or spit in an enclosed space. Also a deterrent to anyone wanting to go out for a long time who may not have a large bladder.

Yeah - but the result is middle aged men cocking their legs against the spreading chestnut trees and middle aged women reappearing from laurel bushes hastily hitching up their trousers.
 
I can’t imagine any penalty being applied to a child (or accompanying adult) cycling considerately on a pavement; I would just do it.
A child under 12 cycling on the pavement probably falls into the category of unlawful but safe. It is probably time that Section 72 of the 1835 Highways Act was reviewed.
 
I'm getting a little irritated.

We all keep arguing about the nuances of this and that .....

Why don't we just bloody well accept this is a crisis, catastrophe, disaster.... whatever you like to call it..... of proportions and magnitude none of us would have thought imaginable a couple of months ago and just get on with acting in the spirit of the government advice?

Just suck it up and get on with it. It happens, it's happening, stay at home people, don't just jump in your cars and bugger off where it's nice or because you don't think it applies to you or a forensic examination of the small print of some hurriedly produced document shows a weakness or loophole.

It's here, it's now and it's happening. Get on with it.
 
Well they do need waxing
Afraid to say the police in some (not all) parts of the country seem to be losing the plot a teeny bit. I read this in today's Sunday Times and had to check with myself it wasn't April 1st.


(It's pay-walled, so here's the first two paras:
"The enforcement of social distancing sank to new depths when Derbyshire police arrived at a beauty spot known as the Blue Lagoon and poured in dye to turn it black.
Alerted by reports that visitors were gathering in bright sunshine at the quarry pool in Buxton, police decided it should become the murky, dye-streaked black lagoon for the lockdown’s duration. “This type of gathering is in contravention of the current instruction of the UK government,” a police statement warned. “We used water dye to make the water look less appealing.” " )
What utter rubbish. The Blue Lagoon is in an old quarry and is very caustic. It has had dye in it for ages to try to stop people swimming, nothing new. Yet another press report stirring things up. Why do people read and keep quoting this crap and keep knocking the police when they are trying to keep people safe. My next door neighour is an officer in the Rural Support Group and had to arrest a violent drunken man this week for domestic abuse. He was punched and spat at and found out later that the man had tested positive so lets just have some support for these people doing their difficult job in even more difficult times
Regarding whether the police are acting outside of the regulations its not the law or otherwise that is at stake here its just bloody common sense and peoples lives.
 
I'm getting a little irritated.

We all keep arguing about the nuances of this and that .....

Why don't we just bloody well accept this is a crisis, catastrophe, disaster.... whatever you like to call it..... of proportions and magnitude none of us would have thought imaginable a couple of months ago and just get on with acting in the spirit of the government advice?

Just suck it up and get on with it. It happens, it's happening, stay at home people, don't just jump in your cars and bugger off where it's nice or because you don't think it applies to you or a forensic examination of the small print of some hurriedly produced document shows a weakness or loophole.

It's here, it's now and it's happening. Get on with it.
I'm not sure anyone here has not acted in accordance with the Government request. The argument as far as I'm concerned is whether the police are (or would be) acting lawfully by preventing people to drive to a place for exercise.

Spending 95% of my time at home, arguing over the Internet is less likely to be a drain on the NHS than if I got out the ladder and put my hand to DIY. This was the result yesterday when I hit the wrong nail!

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I'm not sure anyone here has not acted in accordance with the Government request. The argument as far as I'm concerned is whether the police are (or would be) acting lawfully by preventing people to drive to a place for exercise.

Spending 95% of my time at home, arguing over the Internet is less likely to be a drain on the NHS than if I got out the ladder and put my hand to DIY. This was the result yesterday when I hit the wrong nail!

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I thought Granny Jen put it really clearly and concisely.

This situation is a catastrophe. It is deadly serious. People are dieing. We need to stay at home. Period.
 
I am not a lawyer (and this is not legal advice) :thumb But, as I understand it, in normal times, it is the job of the police to enforce the law. Something becomes a law when it is proposed (usually by Government) is voted on in parliament and passes through various stages into statute. We are not in normal times so the government have given the police powers to enforce things that are not (yet) laws. The question is do those things include both government instructions and government advice? I think the answer is yes
 
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I am not a lawyer (and this is not legal advice) :thumb But, as I understand it, in normal times, it is the job of the police to enforce the law. Something becomes a law when it is proposed (usually by Government) is voted on in parliament and passes through various stages into statute. We are not in normal times so the government have given the police powers to enforce things that are not (yet) laws. The question is do those things include both government instructions and government advice? I think the answer is yes
At the moment the guidelines are voluntary. This is intentional, it’s not a loophole. If and when they become mandatory, the police should enforce them, not before.
Threatening to set fire to vans because people disagree with the governments current approach should be enforced by the police.
 
At the moment the guidelines are voluntary. This is intentional, it’s not a loophole. If and when they become mandatory, the police should enforce them, not before.
Threatening to set fire to vans because people disagree with the governments current approach should be enforced by the police.
The guidelines issued to the public are different from the wording of the emergency bill which, effectively, gives powers do do what is necessary to restrict the spread of the virus. I am pretty sure that threatening to set fire to vans is a criminal offence already.
 
And the trouble is the police are making up the laws themselves. They seem to think that only key workers should be on the streets, in reality it should be all workers with the exception of those businesses that have been instructed to close.

Construction & manufacturing are supposed to be carrying on yet drive to a site in central london to avoid using the tube & you stand a very good chance of being stopped & questioned, I know a couple of our workers have already been fined.
 
And the trouble is the police are making up the laws themselves. They seem to think that only key workers should be on the streets, in reality it should be all workers with the exception of those businesses that have been instructed to close.

Construction & manufacturing are supposed to be carrying on yet drive to a site in central london to avoid using the tube & you stand a very good chance of being stopped & questioned, I know a couple of our workers have already been fined.
Key workers should have documents from their employer,identifying them as such, for production to the police if they are stopped and questioned on route to work.
 
And the trouble is the police are making up the laws themselves. They seem to think that only key workers should be on the streets, in reality it should be all workers with the exception of those businesses that have been instructed to close.

Construction & manufacturing are supposed to be carrying on yet drive to a site in central london to avoid using the tube & you stand a very good chance of being stopped & questioned, I know a couple of our workers have already been fined.
There has also been instances of construction workers on sites facing backlash from the press and threats/abuse from the general public for carrying on going to work. Some companies I know of have asked any sign written vans not be parked anywhere near to a construction site to avoid bad publicity for the company.
 
And the trouble is the police are making up the laws themselves. They seem to think that only key workers should be on the streets, in reality it should be all workers with the exception of those businesses that have been instructed to close.

Construction & manufacturing are supposed to be carrying on yet drive to a site in central london to avoid using the tube & you stand a very good chance of being stopped & questioned, I know a couple of our workers have already been fined.
That's shocking!
 
Key workers should have documents from their employer,identifying them as such, for production to the police if they are stopped and questioned on route to work.
But key workers aren't the only people who should be at work. Everyone who cannot work from home can be at work. As far as I can tell, it is only non-food retail that has been shut down. And even then there are exceptions such as bicycle shops.
 

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