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Battery Capacity T6 vs. T6.1

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The T5 and T6 are only able to make a full charge while on hook-up.
Then why are mine (T5.1) showing 100% after driving 1000km, and a T6 only 80%? Because mine doesn't have regenarative braking. Don't know if the T5.1 with bluemotion technology only charges to 80%, but the T6 certainly does.
 
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A 160w Lensun portable might be what you need.

I just bought one of their 100w semi-flexible panels and the quality is excellent.

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Did you cut down the tree to make sure the panel worked ok? :Iamsorry
 
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I just bought one of their 100w semi-flexible panels and the quality is excellent.
That looks good. What have you mounted yours to? And how have you run the wiring?
 
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Hi Henrik, @California4x4 has his solar panel mounted to the top of his Thule Motion XT roof box with bolts he added to the box, so the panel can be switched between roof and roof box as needed. I will try to find his earlier posts
 
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Electricity is not my strongest …

It seems the leisure battery capacity was reduced from 2 x 105 Ah on the T6 to 2 x 75 Ah on the T6.1 - am I wrong? Does anyone know about the reason for that?

I was surprised our new T6.1 Ocean ran out of battery after only 16 hours recently. Well, we were on Corse and it was hot. But the fridge was on 4 and we only charged an iPhone and iWatch. I assume there is something wrong. But start looking into it, I found that the leisure battery capacity was reduced.

Picture after full charge (Using maxCharge function) again …

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T6 has 2 75Ah leisure batteries not 105Ah. I never had empty batteries even after 3 days off grid Over last 5 years.
 
MattBW

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I really wish I could get a second battery in my beach, it would transform the off grid capability.

I am sure a few folks have managed to fit larger capacity batteries under the seat but with two batteries they need to match, wonder if a larger one can be fitted in the back of an Ocean?
@Kmann I have seen some folks who have put solar panels on their roof boxes.
 
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Then why are mine (T5.1) showing 100% after driving 1000km, and a T6 only 80%? Because mine doesn't have regenarative braking. Don't know if the T5.1 with bluemotion technology only charges to 80%, but the T6 certainly does.
On my beach the blue motion seems (according to my battery monitor) to only charge to 80%. If you wait about an hour or two after stopping driving that should be a good indication of charge level. Mine will read higher just after stopping but once rested it will drop to 80% region.
 
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I have a 6.1 and the batteries are 105 ah. And yes there is a option to do a full charge while driving (max charge function).
I'm awaiting delivery of my 6.1 and I hope mine are 105's on the UK variant! Holding off ordering Solar kit for a while just to gauge off grid usage etc.
 
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The online T6.1 brochure in DK say capacity is 150 Ah, but one from our forum tell me he has 2x105 Ah as original in his T6 but I think he must be wrong then?
UPDATE. OK. The guy told me he was wrong. His batteries is also 75 Ah. So the 105 Ah was a dream and things make more sense.
 
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I really wish I could get a second battery in my beach, it would transform the off grid capability.
I have added a 115ah battery to my Beach. It is independent of the under seat original.

We have the 2 seat bench version. Looking in from the boot the battery lives in the empty void behind the storage box. The storage box ends but flat surface runs further back over the wheel arch, perfect for putting the additional battery under.

I've kept the batteries independent, so it gets charged to 100% by our solar. The cable run to the Vicron Bluetooth box hidden in the jack compartment is nice and short, as is the flylead to a 12v outlet we use to run our fridge/ anything else we need to run.

As you can imagine with 115ah and the van's original we haven't run out of juice yet.
 
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I have added a 115ah battery to my Beach. It is independent of the under seat original.

We have the 2 seat bench version. Looking in from the boot the battery lives in the empty void behind the storage box. The storage box ends but flat surface runs further back over the wheel arch, perfect for putting the additional battery under.

I've kept the batteries independent, so it gets charged to 100% by our solar. The cable run to the Vicron Bluetooth box hidden in the jack compartment is nice and short, as is the flylead to a 12v outlet we use to run our fridge/ anything else we need to run.

As you can imagine with 115ah and the van's original we haven't run out of juice yet.
so do you have two independent leisure electric systems? Or have I not understood correctly?
 
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We spent 8 days in Cornwall in our 6.1
The first 5 with no hook up and had no issues we then hooked up for 2 days on a different site don’t think I needed too as it was still showing over 3 quarters on the control panel
 
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I really wish I could get a second battery in my beach, it would transform the off grid capability.

I am sure a few folks have managed to fit larger capacity batteries under the seat but with two batteries they need to match, wonder if a larger one can be fitted in the back of an Ocean?
@Kmann I have seen some folks who have put solar panels on their roof boxes.
under what circumstances have you run out of battery power please? Presume you have solar?
 
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so do you have two independent leisure electric systems? Or have I not understood correctly?
Yes. VW set up untouched and 115ah Victron solar set up. Had planned to connect them but time/laziness/ not voiding warranty means they are still separate. I've found it works well, the solar setup runs the fridge full time if needed leaving the VW one for lights etc.
 
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Yes. VW set up untouched and 115ah Victron solar set up. Had planned to connect them but time/laziness/ not voiding warranty means they are still separate. I've found it works well, the solar setup runs the fridge full time if needed leaving the VW one for lights etc.
Don't connect them as you will have problems. A 2 Leisure Battery system should be wired in parallel to maintain a 12v system and both batteries should be identical in type, amp hours and age.
 
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Don't connect them as you will have problems. A 2 Leisure Battery system should be wired in parallel to maintain a 12v system and both batteries should be identical in type, amp hours and age.
Thanks. That was essentially what I decided.

It works well as a separate system, allows a bigger battery on solar etc. As much as it would have been neat to have a connected system it works equally well, if not better, as a larger capacity system that the Victron controller can manage separately to the Euro 6 limited 80% VW setup.
 
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Thanks. That was essentially what I decided.

It works well as a separate system, allows a bigger battery on solar etc. As much as it would have been neat to have a connected system it works equally well, if not better, as a larger capacity system that the Victron controller can manage separately to the Euro 6 limited 80% VW setup.
Some Solar controllers can charge 2 batteries that are dissimilar. That could be a way forward to charge both batteries without connecting them.
 
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