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    We use two pieces of aluminum U-profile whenever our hatch is heavier than normal (e.g. when we have our second spare wheel on the hatch). Doesn't cost a thing:

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    The disadvantage is of course that all the extra weight comes down on the standard hinges still, so one shouldn't exaggerate it. We never open the hatch with bikes on it.

    Terranger sells reinforced struts for various weights, but then they also sell reinforced hinges.
     
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    No mention of temperature in the formula . Very significant .
     
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    I've noticed for the past few weeks the tailgate doesn't quite open fully under its own steam. I have to give it a little push to get it to open the last 7-8 inches.

    Is this just a 'feature' in cold weather or do I need to get the struts replaced under warranty.

    Not really an issue at the moment but wondering if this would be a lot worse when/if I get the bike rack fitted?

    Anyone else experiencing this?
     
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    There have ben previous threads on this and the consensus is yes, cold affects the responsiveness of the hydraulic fluid.

    I personally am in the habit anyway of giving the tailgate struts a helping hand. Far better being manual about things than having a bruised forehead.
     
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    As @GrannyJen says there have been previous threads on this. There is a link here to one thread
    https://vwcaliforniaclub.com/threads/boot-door-gas-struts.18254/ and you will find a range of answers here.

    Do be aware that if you uprate them for the winter with bikes on the back, when the summer comes and the warmth makes the struts more effective you might find the door flies up when you unlock it and is very hard for a lighter person to close.
     
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    I had been wondering what my expectation of the tailgate struts should be , as since I bought the Cali 3 weeks ago it doesn't even go half way before I have to lift it up to the full height without the bike rack on.
    Assuming the issue with ambient temperature is significant and it's been fad from ambient I'm guessing it's worth waiting til Spring to see if it performs better ?
    I'm taking it in for a minor warranty issue next week so might at least mention it.
    Another useful thread thank you !
     
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    The California does have uprated Gas Struts fitted so you could just check they have fitted the correct ones.

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    Wow thank you, I'll definitely do that whilst looking like actually know what I'm talking about !
    :thanks
     
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    Yes, mines the same and in hot weather I'm nearly off my feet trying to get it closed.
     
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    Does anyone happen to have the part number for the VW updated 1270N struts please? (Or are they1250N?)

    I ordered some ‘uprated’ ones from SGS but user error (and the fact that Cali ones aren’t listed on the website at all) mean I got some weaker ones which I’ve sent back. I spoke to SGS but they said 1250N was the maximum available for this replacement strut and any higher requires a different kind of strut.

    On my T6 Beach I have 1200N as is but they barely hold the tailgate WITH an EMPTY bike rack in the warm at sea level.
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    In the winter at 1500 metres above sea level the tailgate won’t even stay up WITHOUT a rack on it.

    The SGS ones also had a different style of ball joint, which seems more fiddly- see below:
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    I would also prefer the OEM style ball joint too (as shown on the SGS website but not what you actually get):
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    At this point, just having the tailgate not break my legs would be a luxury, let alone lifting it with a bike on it.
    Thanks. Stu

    Ps. With 2 small children and a Slidepod It creates an extra dimension of stress meaning we can NEVER leave an empty tailgate open when unloading etc

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    If you want a quick and cheap(ish) temporary fix:
    https://www.screwfix.com/p/extension-support-rod/14003
    Packs to 1.15 metres, extends to 2.9 metres. Rated to support 40Kg. Also comes in grape yellow:
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    See our simple solution for a 'safety lock' earlier in this thread.
     
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    Thank you all very much for your replies!
    I think I’ll go with the struts to avoid the, Child A thinking ‘ooh look, a nice long stick to hit Child B, with!’, scenario.
    Trust me, it WOULD happen.
    The lock idea’s a good one and similar to the oem locking strut I had on my FJ Cruiser (I’d probably forget it was there though).

    @WelshGas, thank you again- is that for the T6? Would’ve taken me weeks to find that. Typed into SGS and came up as T5 so will give them a shout.

    Love this place.




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    Unchanged as far as I am aware. That part number was for a 2016 model, so T6.
     
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    Thanks @WelshGas , I’ve googled that part number a lot now and maybe the diagram architects didn’t update the part number as everywhere seems to think that is a T5 strut with a length of 755mm vs my part No. for the T6 with a length of 711mm. (Perhaps VW changed the mounting position hence the reduced length?)

    Anyway, googling my (T6) part number 7E7827550 brings up the strut with varying eject force ratings and the 1270N always seems to be; a) expensive and b) out of stock.

    The plot thickens, will let you know what happens.


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    Thanks @Loz - same code as mine so I’m guessing the suffix ‘A’ denotes the 1270N

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    Why would they fit 1200n ? mine are 1250 and now there´s 1270.
    Do you have double glazing on the rear door or only single ?
     
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    Ah ha! I hadn’t thought of that. I’ve got the acoustic glass package which is thicker.


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