Buying a new California 6.1 Ocean - any good deals out there?

[OxonCalifornia]

That's not strictly true; there is at least one significant physical difference beyond the mapping and that's the fact the 204 is a bi-turbo. The fact the engine has been designed for increased power will mean it is likely to always struggle to match a 150 for economy in like-for-like situations, albeit the differences might not be huge.

With all that said, I do appreciate the extra flexibility that engine would provide though and I have absolutely no doubt it drives better, it's just like anything, there are compromises.

All I know is we tow, so def need it and when not towing on runs that computer figure is starting with the magical number 4 so am happy. Best of both worlds.

 

[OooOooTheMonkey]

That's not strictly true; there is at least one significant physical difference beyond the mapping and that's the fact the 204 is a bi-turbo. The fact the engine has been designed for increased power will mean it is likely to always struggle to match a 150 for economy in like-for-like situations, albeit the differences might not be huge.

With all that said, I do appreciate the extra flexibility that engine would provide though and I have absolutely no doubt it drives better, it's just like anything, there are compromises.

Having had both 150 and 204, the difference in mpg is negligible. Both 2wd though. 4mo might be less economical.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

My 150 was/is a bi-turbo

 

[2haw]

Thanks, it's on my list .

You should be able to get a better deal direct from the dealer, as they have to pay DtD around £400.

 

[2haw]

Okay, I'm getting there. Couple of questions:
- differences between 150PS and 204PS (apart from the obvious)
- is the Sports package worth having?
- is Art velour seating worth having?
Thanks everyone!

The Sports Package also includes the Heated Front Screen.

Having had both, I’d recommend the 204. If I didn’t have a need for an occasional 5th seat, I’d also have gone 4motion.

 

[Pengranger]

Found the 150 engine sluggish and went for the 204 4M. Wanted 17” wheels so Sports packs was out - also went for all season tyres which have a softer ride. Expensive option, but DCC (Dynamic Chassis Control) reduces the bumps over pot holes and traffic calming. I have Art Velour, however prefer the downstairs bed with the standard seats for comfort.

Take a look at Seat Surgeons for seat covers. Cover the floors (inc garage with fitted mats) - I also have Dunelm sacrificial mats over the top which I can easily remove.

 

[18ME]

Mine maybe up for sale due to my other half recently being diagnosed with cancer and she wasn’t as enthusiastic as me to buy one in the first place so even less interested now with all the chemotherapy appointments. Its only done around 350 miles and I’ve had it 2 months and that includes the 150 miles collecting it from Poole.

It is a 204 4Motion in Ascot with Sports pack and spec’d with virtually every option. Plus I’ve had it PPF’d and ceramic coated.

 

[DonQuilliam2023]

After much thought I am close to buying a new 6.1 Ocean. I was considering waiting for a new T7 but hopefully will get a better deal on one of the last 6.1s. I am aware of DrivetheDeal but has anyone seen any particularly good offers on new Oceans? Not over-stressed about specific colour or 'extras'. Anything else I should be aware of?

Thinking of selling our 2023 Cali Ocean as we have just bought a caravan (Swift Basecamp4). The Ocean tows the caravan with ease (150HP) but is a bit of a luxury keeping it. Cherry Red, 7800 miles, still has 2 free services. Detachable tow bar fitted and full set of seat covers. Located near Chester.

 

[JuanVecino2023]

If you like washing the car, a lot. Get black. Aha.
So many colours to choose from.
I’m looking at a starlight blue T7.
Will see how that one fares for the next 4 years.

Should be a doddle to keep clean vs black

 

[sallie]

After much thought I am close to buying a new 6.1 Ocean. I was considering waiting for a new T7 but hopefully will get a better deal on one of the last 6.1s. I am aware of DrivetheDeal but has anyone seen any particularly good offers on new Oceans? Not over-stressed about specific colour or 'extras'. Anything else I should be aware of?

Just bought an ex demo … under 2000 miles … they are going like hot cakes so don’t stall …

 

[andyinluton]

That's not strictly true; there is at least one significant physical difference beyond the mapping and that's the fact the 204 is a bi-turbo. The fact the engine has been designed for increased power will mean it is likely to always struggle to match a 150 for economy in like-for-like situations, albeit the differences might not be huge.

With all that said, I do appreciate the extra flexibility that engine would provide though and I have absolutely no doubt it drives better, it's just like anything, there are compromises.

Ive found the 204 engine to be more economical at high motorway speeds than the 140.

 

[Corradobrit]

That's not strictly true; there is at least one significant physical difference beyond the mapping and that's the fact the 204 is a bi-turbo. The fact the engine has been designed for increased power will mean it is likely to always struggle to match a 150 for economy in like-for-like situations, albeit the differences might not be huge.

With all that said, I do appreciate the extra flexibility that engine would provide though and I have absolutely no doubt it drives better, it's just like anything, there are compromises.

its 1 or 2 mpg difference, so I agree with @OxonCalifornia, perceived advantage of fuel economy should be at the bottom of the list. I'm getting 43.4mpg on my latest trip with 70% motorway and 30% Alpine switchbacks.
Simplicity and good longterm 150PS engine longevity would be near the top for me.

 

[DGB99]

Okay, I am getting close. Currently close to a new 4motion Ocean with lots of extras (!), most of which I would like, at a discount close to 13%. Good deal with 5 year warranty, service etc?

 

[Kernowboy]

Okay, I am getting close. Currently close to a new 4motion Ocean with lots of extras (!), most of which I would like, at a discount close to 13%. Good deal with 5 year warranty, service etc?

The ones on DtD are c.14% discount if not using 0% HP and c.13% if you do - so I would say your deal is par for the course at the moment.

 

[turnitdown]

Okay, I am getting close. Currently close to a new 4motion Ocean with lots of extras (!), most of which I would like, at a discount close to 13%. Good deal with 5 year warranty, service etc?

Yes. I got about 14.5%, but really 13% and up seems great. Do you have to complete by Sept 30? I think there’s great incentives at the moment from VW itself, but ending Monday. Don’t know what October will bring.

I have yet to see any used vans that are competitive to these kinds of discounts.

 

[DGB99]

Yes. I got about 14.5%, but really 13% and up seems great. Do you have to complete by Sept 30? I think there’s great incentives at the moment from VW itself, but ending Monday. Don’t know what October will bring.

I have yet to see any used vans that are competitive to these kinds of discounts.

Yes, that is using the VW 0% Finance offer.

 

[DGB99]

Yes, that is using the VW 0% Finance offer.

I do have to complete by end Sep for VW support. Any idea what will happen in Oct?

 

[turnitdown]

I do have to complete by end Sep for VW support. Any idea what will happen in Oct?

No. There are some VW-funded discounts that end Sept 30th, but I have no idea about October - will there be no such discounts, or just different ones? The dealer implied the former but I don't know if they're just keeping their cards close to their chest. It also sounded like the 0% deal is being withdrawn, but again, I don't know how concrete that is.

The way I look at it: They have got to keep the discounts so long as there is decent supply of new stock sitting at the port waiting for allocation. I have no idea though whether there is.

 

[DGB99]

No. There are some VW-funded discounts that end Sept 30th, but I have no idea about October - will there be no such discounts, or just different ones? The dealer implied the former but I don't know if they're just keeping their cards close to their chest. It also sounded like the 0% deal is being withdrawn, but again, I don't know how concrete that is.

The way I look at it: They have got to keep the discounts so long as there is decent supply of new stock sitting at the port waiting for allocation. I have no idea though whether there is.

And this is my issue; ideally I would have preferred to buy in 2/3 months but by then there might be nothing left .

 

[18ME]

Okay, I am getting close. Currently close to a new 4motion Ocean with lots of extras (!), most of which I would like, at a discount close to 13%. Good deal with 5 year warranty, service etc?

Do you mind sharing the details, spec and price?

Be good to know what I’d likely get for mine if I sold it with 401 miles and an RRP of around £92k. I’m guessing low £70k’s

 

[DGB99]

Do you mind sharing the details, spec and price?

Be good to know what I’d likely get for mine if I sold it with 401 miles and an RRP of around £92k. I’m guessing low £70k’s

What spec is yours? If you don’t mind saying, why are you selling?

 

[SusiBus]

These are stunning deals. There must be a lot of stock in the pipeline at the moment, but there's the situation of "When there gone, there gone". If I was in the market, especially for a 4Motion l wouldn't be sitting on my hands.

 

[18ME]

What spec is yours? If you don’t mind saying, why are you selling?

I’ve not put it up for sale but I’ve also not driven it because of my partner’s (until Sunday when we’ll be married ) recent cancer diagnosis.

Bought new in July so has the remaining 5 years servicing and warranty etc.

Can’t 100% remember all the options but the ones I can I’ve listed below.

204 4 Motion Ocean
Ascot Grey
Sport Pack (inc the heated screen)
DCC
Wood floor
Art velours
Discover Nav pro (I think it’s called with the bigger screen)
Towbar
Comfort mattress
Electric sliding door
Storage pack? (the extra drawer and upstairs net)
Outdoor shower

Not sure if there are any other options you can have but it’s also had full front PPF (bonnet, front bumper, front wings, wing mirrors and also rear top ledge of bumper and strip down the rear side where the awning winder goes. The whole of the vehicle including wheels have been ceramic coated.

The Cali is better than new and has been garaged from new (spent £3000 to change the garage doors in order to fit the Cali)

I also bought a private plate to put on it but not got around to doing it due to the circumstances.

 

[DGB99]

I’ve not put it up for sale but I’ve also not driven it because of my partner’s (until Sunday when we’ll be married ) recent cancer diagnosis.

Bought new in July so has the remaining 5 years servicing and warranty etc.

Can’t 100% remember all the options but the ones I can I’ve listed below.

204 4 Motion Ocean
Ascot Grey
Sport Pack (inc the heated screen)
DCC
Wood floor
Art velours
Discover Nav pro (I think it’s called with the bigger screen)
Towbar
Comfort mattress
Electric sliding door
Storage pack? (the extra drawer and upstairs net)
Outdoor shower

Not sure if there are any other options you can have but it’s also had full front PPF (bonnet, front bumper, front wings, wing mirrors and also rear top ledge of bumper and strip down the rear side where the awning winder goes. The whole of the vehicle including wheels have been ceramic coated.

The Cali is better than new and has been garaged from new (spent £3000 to change the garage doors in order to fit the Cali)

I also bought a private plate to put on it but not got around to doing it due to the circumstances.

This is quite similar to the one I am looking at….

 

[18ME]

This is quite similar to the one I am looking at….

Who’s it for sale with as I can’t see anything similar brand new on Autotrader. I guess not all are advertised on Autotrader though.