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Moakesy

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Had a van for 5 years. Never slept downstairs. Upstairs in all weathers, including camping in November.

love that you just pull the bed down and go to (already made when we arrived) bed.

keen cyclists as well, leave the bikes on the rack, covered up, with multiple locks.
 
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Two up and two down, unless it is really really windy, then the whole roof comes down and we sleep four in the bottom bed, two head to front on the outside, two head to rear on the inside. It is not comfortable, and awful when someone needs to pee in the night.
 
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Hi there, Just starting to look into buying a campervan and ideally a California. We have camped for years but maybe looking to buy a California for when we retire and have more time. We are just a couple so wondering which bed people use. Does it depend on the weather? The reason we are asking is that if most people use the bottom bed, then is it worth getting a campervan with a top bed? Top bed seems ideal as in you have the usual downstairs and do not need to get the bed ready each night but we have not tried one and looking for the views of experienced users. Any help / thoughts would be very
We put the kids on the roof (6 yrs and 18 months). We have a sleeping pod for the 18 month old and obviously use the VW net. Roof generally stays up no matter what the weather just park tail into the wind. Kids generally sleep through anything and I’ve never found it that noisy. I’ve slept on the roof a few times and to be honest it’s not that comfortable even with a duvalay sleeping bag - heard it’s better in the T6.1. We use the bottom each night with the extra topper and the duvalay sleeping bags. Other benefit is we can put the kids up to bed and sit inside and chill if the weather is bad. Oh… another thing to consider is how you get up top maybe consider a ladder (not being ageist - I’m 37 and pretty fit and find it a struggle )
 
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That was something I was wondering about - so you leave your duvet/pillows etc on the upstairs bed and push up the roof? is there a thickness/weight limit to this process so the roof isn't damaged - thanks
Sure, you can leave a duvet and pillows upstairs and push the bed upwards. They are pillows and duvets, that will not damage the roof. The max weight is whatever max weight the gas struts can carry untill the bed comes down. How much you can leave up there when closing the roof however (hardly anything) is a whole different thing.
 
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Hi there, Just starting to look into buying a campervan and ideally a California. We have camped for years but maybe looking to buy a California for when we retire and have more time. We are just a couple so wondering which bed people use. Does it depend on the weather? The reason we are asking is that if most people use the bottom bed, then is it worth getting a campervan with a top bed? Top bed seems ideal as in you have the usual downstairs and do not need to get the bed ready each night but we have not tried one and looking for the views of experienced users. Any help / thoughts would be very much appreciated.
In our T4 we used to sleep downstairs and the kids slept upstairs. But since the T5 (and 6) has bed slates in the upper bed, it got a lot more comfortable to sleep upstairs. So we slept upstairs. However, since we bought the S2S campervan selfinflateable matress (SIM) and tried that a few times downstairs, I feel that is the most comfortable solution. It does take up quite some room in the trunk and changing the bed is a (minor) hassle (but were 4 people anyways). I'd say upstairs is very doable if you are the camping type.
 
Eber123

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Hello,

When we got the van, the first nights my wife and I slept downstairs. But this turned out a bit too small. So we agreed that my wife sleeps upstairs and I downstairs.

There are a few reasons for this:
  • First the weight limit on the upper bed. In this case I am the guilty part, with too much pounds on the rips. By the way, I wonder if the weight limited of the upper bed has increased on the T6.1?
  • Second reason is that my wife gets easily disturbed during her sleep. Meaning if I would turn around on the upstairs bed it would wake her up.
  • The third reason is that I like to read or listen to music a bit longer in the evening.
  • The fourth reason is that when I am downstairs if something is going on I can check this out quicker as if I would be upstairs.
So far it went well. 2x years ago we went to Mayo for a few days. It was very windy and heavy rain during the night (the days actually were fine). I was amazed how good the upper roof coped in those condition.

Happy sleepy California,
Eberhard
 
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I removed the shelf that form the bed downstairs completely, pushed the bench further back, so I have a big "living room-kitchen", and sleep always upstairs.
 
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Sleeping upstairs is our preference as then the downstairs is all ready for the morning and gives you lots of space downstairs that way. We like sleeping up top it’s comfy and cosy. Agree getting up in the night is a pain so try not to do that but getting up and down is rash enough it just wakes up the other person . When parked up we pop up the roof and lay out all the bedding ready for the night and push up the roof giving lots of room downstairs . Works well for us. We have bikes on a tow bar rack that tilts so you can still open boot with bikes attached . Would that work for your bikes?
 
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Sure, you can leave a duvet and pillows upstairs and push the bed upwards. They are pillows and duvets, that will not damage the roof. The max weight is whatever max weight the gas struts can carry untill the bed comes down. How much you can leave up there when closing the roof however (hardly anything) is a whole different thing.
It holds two of the thickest Duvalays, two pillows and a blanket with no trouble.

On the subject of nocturnal visits to the loo, funnily enough at home I can succumb quite often but have never needed to in the van. Weird.
 
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Upstairs is so much more convenient, throw the duvet and pillows up when we arrive and push the bed up till it’s needed. Dog sleeps downstairs, only time we’ve slept downstairs was a mad scramble at 3am to get the roof down with 50mph gales making us feel that the roof was going to be blown off!
 
Dark Ocean

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We’re only two weeks into California life, but I have to say, I was surprised at how noisy it was upstairs. It makes sense when you think about it really, it’s only a tent on the top of a vehicle. Downstairs is double glazed and so quiet when the roof is down. Added bonus, the kids prefer it upstairs so we dont have to worry about climbing up and down in the night.
 
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Always sleep down stairs. Never even tried upstairs. As we wild camp mostly, for some illogical reason it makes us feel safer.
We've got a 6' bed at home, surprisingly we manage with limited space downstairs, get a lot more cuddles as well.
 
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Always sleep down stairs. Never even tried upstairs. As we wild camp mostly, for some illogical reason it makes us feel safer.
We've got a 6' bed at home, surprisingly we manage with limited space downstairs, get a lot more cuddles as well.
so do we, much less obvious without the roof up.
 
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Hi there, Just starting to look into buying a campervan and ideally a California. We have camped for years but maybe looking to buy a California for when we retire and have more time. We are just a couple so wondering which bed people use. Does it depend on the weather? The reason we are asking is that if most people use the bottom bed, then is it worth getting a campervan with a top bed? Top bed seems ideal as in you have the usual downstairs and do not need to get the bed ready each night but we have not tried one and looking for the views of experienced users. Any help / thoughts would be very much appreciated.
Hi, we're just retired (well, 95%) and have recently bought a California Ocean (take a look at the 5 seater California Beach if you have several grandkids), and have had a couple of camping trips so far. One consideration for where you sleep is how agile you both are, as you have to climb up and down using the front seats. And, as others have said, how good the old bladder is! I have to use my imagination this year so far, but if it's a hot night, upstairs would be great as there are window openings (with fly screen) up top. One last thought, we use ours daily as our regular drive and it's brilliant (it has the auto DSG gearbox), would prefer the reversing camera option although you soon get used to using mirrors.
 
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Hi, we're just retired (well, 95%) and have recently bought a California Ocean (take a look at the 5 seater California Beach if you have several grandkids), and have had a couple of camping trips so far. One consideration for where you sleep is how agile you both are, as you have to climb up and down using the front seats. And, as others have said, how good the old bladder is! I have to use my imagination this year so far, but if it's a hot night, upstairs would be great as there are window openings (with fly screen) up top. One last thought, we use ours daily as our regular drive and it's brilliant (it has the auto DSG gearbox), would prefer the reversing camera option although you soon get used to using mirrors.
Unfortunately, age-related decreases in bladder competency and in agility are invariably positively correlated! :)

As there are only two of us and usually our overnight stops are just one night, we keep the driver's seat facing forward. That makes getting up and down quite easy once you have the knack, using the shoulder of the seat as a step (but NEVER step on the arm rest, you'll break it).
 
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Depends on time of the years, summertime Yes wintertime No. Place is also a factor.
 
Tony hylton

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Hi there, Just starting to look into buying a campervan and ideally a California. We have camped for years but maybe looking to buy a California for when we retire and have more time. We are just a couple so wondering which bed people use. Does it depend on the weather? The reason we are asking is that if most people use the bottom bed, then is it worth getting a campervan with a top bed? Top bed seems ideal as in you have the usual downstairs and do not need to get the bed ready each night but we have not tried one and looking for the views of experienced users. Any help / thoughts would be very much appreciated.
We have always slept up top, I made a wooden ladder in Two pieces for easy storage.We also have a topper for bad weather which is great.
 
Tony hylton

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Sure, you can leave a duvet and pillows upstairs and push the bed upwards. They are pillows and duvets, that will not damage the roof. The max weight is whatever max weight the gas struts can carry untill the bed comes down. How much you can leave up there when closing the roof however (hardly anything) is a whole different thing.
I damaged my roof.storing stuff on the bed, one can probably get away with a lot if the roof is manual , not electric.
be careful
 
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Always upstairs, unless it's below zero!
 
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One of the best parts of Californiing is you can always choose where you want to sleep depending on the situation. We love to sleep up and downstairs.
At some point we disscused buying a bigger van however our futur van has to have a rooftopbed otherwise we stick to the California (that is why - and moneywise - the Grand California isn't for us. The Adria GSX Sport somewhat looks faboulus...)
 

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