Does using Coasting Function clog the EGR?

no matter what they say, branded fuel is better than supermarket fuel (the latter I've not used for 15-20 years now)
“The RAC and the AA both agree that petrol and diesel fuel quality is governed by the same European standard, wherever it’s sold. So Lord knows where these people get their ideas from. Maybe these are the folk who firmly believe the Royal Family are shape-shifting lizards or that Jay-Z is a time-travelling vampire.”

 
I have no experience of knowing supermarket diesel is poorer quality but I do have experience of supermarket petrol being lower quality. I had a 2000 MY Volvo V70 (owned for 24 years) that would "pink" on supermarket fuel but run perfectly on branded fuel, I tried various sources and they would always do it except TESCO 4 star when they did it, so have always steered clear of it. Meeting a base standard may be true on paper but who is testing it on delivery.
 
I have no experience of knowing supermarket diesel is poorer quality but I do have experience of supermarket petrol being lower quality. I had a 2000 MY Volvo V70 (owned for 24 years) that would "pink" on supermarket fuel but run perfectly on branded fuel, I tried various sources and they would always do it except TESCO 4 star when they did it, so have always steered clear of it. Meeting a base standard may be true on paper but who is testing it on delivery.

Fully agree. The standards are the minimum. Having a snorkel allows me to hear the motor and with cheap diesel I can hear sputters and “coughing” of the motor. Using Shell or BP and it purrs like a kitten. I use VPower Diesel from shell every few tanks of if I can, or if I am in a country with lower quality diesel I bring additives with me like STP. The sputtering vanishes with the additive.


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I normally use Esso regular fuel. Biggest difference I have noticed in the last few months is the switch from driving in D to S mode. I used the coasting feature a lot and the van did a regen fairly regularly. Now I only drive in S mode without coasting, the regens are less frequent and my mpg has increased by about 8%. I still take my foot off the gas going down hill but overall the S mode just feels better for the engine and certainly more responsive when driving around town. This is with a 2020 T6 Beach 150.
 
I normally use Esso regular fuel. Biggest difference I have noticed in the last few months is the switch from driving in D to S mode. I used the coasting feature a lot and the van did a regen fairly regularly. Now I only drive in S mode without coasting, the regens are less frequent and my mpg has increased by about 8%. I still take my foot off the gas going down hill but overall the S mode just feels better for the engine and certainly more responsive when driving around town. This is with a 2020 T6 Beach 150.

Coast mode can also be disabled by turning off the stop/start function. FYI


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I normally use Esso regular fuel. Biggest difference I have noticed in the last few months is the switch from driving in D to S mode. I used the coasting feature a lot and the van did a regen fairly regularly. Now I only drive in S mode without coasting, the regens are less frequent and my mpg has increased by about 8%. I still take my foot off the gas going down hill but overall the S mode just feels better for the engine and certainly more responsive when driving around town. This is with a 2020 T6 Beach 150.
I must try this :)
 
Our 199T6 4 motion (68plate) has now done nearly 70,000miles we have always used the “D” free wheel function on the DSG box , and virtually all the fuel used is cheap supermarket type. We agree with welsh Gas that the D function only comes into play for short periods and driven normally doesn’t allow long distances of tick over driving!
We have the “S” function on the gearbox and use it often for starting off from junctions and roundabouts which, depending on right foot leaden application, will allow the engine to hold onto the gears and therefore rev up to over 4000rpm.
We don’t have Acc as we don’t like driving using cruise control! (Most of our vehicles don’t have it nor lane assist which we prefer)
Haven’t had the reported ERG issues yet!
 
While I'm waiting for delivery of my new T6.1 next month, I'm busy reading up on a lot of concepts that are new to me, including the DSG transmission, and the coasting function. I've read through this entire post, and it's a bit disconcerting hearing about the issues that some folks have had with the EGR devices. I've seen two mentions of catch-cans in the thread, but no-one has picked up on them. Are these not popular in the UK/Europe? I have one fitted to my Toyota Land Cruiser which is exclusively used for long-distance runs, often in severe conditions (multi-day 4wd trips in the high country, or through central Australia and the remote desert country). The attached pic shows the trapped oil I drained from the catch can after a 6000 km trip. If my new T6.1 doesn't already have one fitted I'll be looking to fit one as soon as I can.

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Like you, @Mansfieldman750 I sometimes go to manual 5 fifth gear and drive at 4000 revs for half an hour or so, thinking it may cause a bit of a clean out.

I rarely question the @WelshGas wisedom, but he recently posted along the lines that STP, Redox etc. fuel treatments are a waste of money, whilst @Webbah_in_Switzerland posted to the contrary.

Taking up the latter's favourite of:

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I tried this recently, after having only been able to buy basic (not premium) diesel for a while.

Perhaps I have been kidding myself, but I feel since that the engine is smoother and fuel consumption economy is better getting 40+ mpg for the first time on a long continental trip.

So, I think I am going to persevere with this every 4,000 miles or so and next time try the twin pack:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BWFG75G8?tag=unique09f-21

If it actually makes no difference and I am wasting my money I will live with that. If there is evidence out that that these additives are harmful I have not seen it, but perhaps other forum members know different?
I watched an episode of 5th Gear a while ago. They had an old VW Scirocco twin turbo that when new had 180 BHP. On the power test bed, age had reduced power considerably (can't remember exact figures). What I do remember is that fuel additives restored more BHP than any other maintenance activity. I would like to have seen this applied to a larger sample of cars but it did seem plausible.
 
I’ve some very recent experience of an EGR valve sticking - on my Volvo diesel rather than the Cali - but it still may be worth sharing.

The Volvo (XC40) was chugging a bit at low speeds and I was concerned it could be sticking injectors. I chatted to my very local car mechanics, and got the following.
1. It’s probably the EGR valve.
2. Do you use supermarket fuel? If so, fill up with Shell diesel about one tank in five.
3. Give the engine a good thrash, 70mph and keeping revs around 3000rpm for around 30 - 40 miles. This should clear the build up.

So, having already got a full tank of Costcos finest, I did the engine thrash routine. It had no effect, still chugging. Once the tank was nearly empty we refilled with Shell, repeating the engine thrash, and as promised the chugging has now disappeared! As smooth as smooth can be!

So I guess we will continue to fill with Shell every so often for both the Volvo and the Cali.
General supermarket fuel is not partially good, Costco fuel however is the best of the bunch, I worked in R and D up until recently for fuels and lubricants for the global industry not affiliated to any of of the majors so no bias any way, the company I worked for held the patents for shell V power as we did all the research Costco fuel is as good as this. It’s the only fuel I use unless travelling away, van has 70 thou on the clock no EGR issues fingers crossed and used coasting function since we have had it, never had the need to give it thrash to clean it however it uses no oil between changes and it gets new oil every 10 to 12 thou it will also achieve 40 mpg plus on a run but 25 to 28 local.
 
As CaliMac mentioned above, and as someone who also works closely with a number of fuel brands, I can confirm that Shell V Power products have a number of additives that reduce carbon deposit build up and increase mpg etc. They talk a lot about the 'cost of ownership across the life of the vehicle, not just per tank'. See below for the cleaning claims:


I'm now a Tesla driver, but when I had a diesel E Class, I did use V-Power every 4th tank to help remove and prevent the build up from cheaper, minimum-standard supermarket fuel.
 
As CaliMac mentioned above, and as someone who also works closely with a number of fuel brands, I can confirm that Shell V Power products have a number of additives that reduce carbon deposit build up and increase mpg etc. They talk a lot about the 'cost of ownership across the life of the vehicle, not just per tank'. See below for the cleaning claims:


I'm now a Tesla driver, but when I had a diesel E Class, I did use V-Power every 4th tank to help remove and prevent the build up from cheaper, minimum-standard supermarket fuel.
My van has driven over 204000km now. I mostly refuel at supermarkets or lowest price stations. Occasionally I refuel at Total or Esso. I really don't see any difference in mileage. Apart from the first 45000km, I have had no issues the last 160000km with the EGR. The first I changed because of a factory fault in the Dordogne on a campsite.
And I do a lot of short distances to and from work (12km single trip). And I have the first common rail engine from VW. Not too bad I think?
 
My van has driven over 204000km now. I mostly refuel at supermarkets or lowest price stations. Occasionally I refuel at Total or Esso. I really don't see any difference in mileage. Apart from the first 45000km, I have had no issues the last 160000km with the EGR. The first I changed because of a factory fault in the Dordogne on a campsite.
And I do a lot of short distances to and from work (12km single trip). And I have the first common rail engine from VW. Not too bad I think?
Indeed, that's some going, but you'll appreciate rather a small sample size to draw any conclusions.
 
While I'm waiting for delivery of my new T6.1 next month, I'm busy reading up on a lot of concepts that are new to me, including the DSG transmission, and the coasting function. I've read through this entire post, and it's a bit disconcerting hearing about the issues that some folks have had with the EGR devices. I've seen two mentions of catch-cans in the thread, but no-one has picked up on them. Are these not popular in the UK/Europe? I have one fitted to my Toyota Land Cruiser which is exclusively used for long-distance runs, often in severe conditions (multi-day 4wd trips in the high country, or through central Australia and the remote desert country). The attached pic shows the trapped oil I drained from the catch can after a 6000 km trip. If my new T6.1 doesn't already have one fitted I'll be looking to fit one as soon as I can.

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Interesting ChrisN. Will need to do some more reading on catch cans. No one has mentioned it on here being fitted to a Cali.

If the new engine is good and does not use up oil, then would you still fit a catch can? Understand that the old TLC did not have the most tolerance limited engine, though being reliable.
 
Interesting ChrisN. Will need to do some more reading on catch cans. No one has mentioned it on here being fitted to a Cali.

If the new engine is good and does not use up oil, then would you still fit a catch can? Understand that the old TLC did not have the most tolerance limited engine, though being reliable.
As I understand it the purpose of EGR is to capture the oily fumes from the crankcase (that once-upon-a-time was simply vented to the atmosphere) and direct those oily fumes into the air intake and thus burn them in the engine's combustion cycle. The problem is that the oily fumes also tend to turn into carbon deposits in the EGR valve and piping, air intake passageways and on the intake valve. Google will show you lots of horrible images of the built-up deposits. I haven't pulled the Toyota's intake system apart to check (it had 200,000 km on it when I bought it, and another 70,000 since I fitted the catch can). But I'm regularly draining that amount of condensed oil from the catch can with every 5,000 km oil change (old-school diesel servicing). I feel that keeping that oil from entering the intake manifold can only be good for the performance and longevity of the engine. I do know the car is running well with good economy (for a 3,900 kg light truck) and perfect reliability at this point, and I'd like to keep it that way for a long time to come.

So yes, assuming the T6.1 Cali doesn't already have one fitted, I'll fit a catch-can as soon as I can to prevent problems later. In my web browsing I'm seeing some hints that the Cali might already have one fitted, but I can't be sure until mine is delivered and I have a chance to crawl all over (and under) it. :)
 
As I understand it the purpose of EGR is to capture the oily fumes from the crankcase (that once-upon-a-time was simply vented to the atmosphere) and direct those oily fumes into the air intake and thus burn them in the engine's combustion cycle. The problem is that the oily fumes also tend to turn into carbon deposits in the EGR valve and piping, air intake passageways and on the intake valve. Google will show you lots of horrible images of the built-up deposits. I haven't pulled the Toyota's intake system apart to check (it had 200,000 km on it when I bought it, and another 70,000 since I fitted the catch can). But I'm regularly draining that amount of condensed oil from the catch can with every 5,000 km oil change (old-school diesel servicing). I feel that keeping that oil from entering the intake manifold can only be good for the performance and longevity of the engine. I do know the car is running well with good economy (for a 3,900 kg light truck) and perfect reliability at this point, and I'd like to keep it that way for a long time to come.

So yes, assuming the T6.1 Cali doesn't already have one fitted, I'll fit a catch-can as soon as I can to prevent problems later. In my web browsing I'm seeing some hints that the Cali might already have one fitted, but I can't be sure until mine is delivered and I have a chance to crawl all over (and under) it. :)
I’m afraid your understanding of the function of an EGR valve is incorrect.

 
As I understand it the purpose of EGR is to capture the oily fumes from the crankcase (that once-upon-a-time was simply vented to the atmosphere) and direct those oily fumes into the air intake and thus burn them in the engine's combustion cycle. The problem is that the oily fumes also tend to turn into carbon deposits in the EGR valve and piping, air intake passageways and on the intake valve. Google will show you lots of horrible images of the built-up deposits. I haven't pulled the Toyota's intake system apart to check (it had 200,000 km on it when I bought it, and another 70,000 since I fitted the catch can). But I'm regularly draining that amount of condensed oil from the catch can with every 5,000 km oil change (old-school diesel servicing). I feel that keeping that oil from entering the intake manifold can only be good for the performance and longevity of the engine. I do know the car is running well with good economy (for a 3,900 kg light truck) and perfect reliability at this point, and I'd like to keep it that way for a long time to come.

So yes, assuming the T6.1 Cali doesn't already have one fitted, I'll fit a catch-can as soon as I can to prevent problems later. In my web browsing I'm seeing some hints that the Cali might already have one fitted, but I can't be sure until mine is delivered and I have a chance to crawl all over (and under) it. :)
This is not correct. The EGR (exhaust gas recuperation) returns exhaust gas into the inlet manifold when you drive at low power. This reduces NOx, but because the EG is returned before the DPF, it contains a lot of soot.

The oil that you refer to, is returned by the crankcase ventilation. This is in the cylinder head and returns the oil back to the crankcase.

Those are 2 different things.
 

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