Entry/Exit System (EES)

[acer]

I found out today about the new EES system that is to be introduced from October 12. I wonder if this is news to anyone else?

The Times today reports that when we enter Europe/leave the UK, “we will be asked a series of questions to confirm (we) have proof of accommodation, sufficient funds for the trip, medical insurance and a return or onward ticket.”

More fun comes towards the end of next year when, “the new European Travel Information and Authorisation System (Etias) will begin. It will mean British passport holders without a visa or residency permit will need to apply for a €20 visa waiver before travelling to the EU. It will work in a similar way to the US Esta and be valid for three years.”

Blue touch paper lit…

 

[CaliforniaCylus]

I found out today about the new EES system that is to be introduced from October 12. I wonder if this is news to anyone else?

The Times today reports that when we enter Europe/leave the UK, “we will be asked a series of questions to confirm (we) have proof of accommodation, sufficient funds for the trip, medical insurance and a return or onward ticket.”

More fun comes towards the end of next year when, “the new European Travel Information and Authorisation System (Etias) will begin. It will mean British passport holders without a visa or residency permit will need to apply for a €20 visa waiver before travelling to the EU. It will work in a similar way to the US Esta and be valid for three years.”

Blue touch paper lit…

Medical Insurance. What happened to the GHIC card for reciprocal healthcare??

 

[WelshGas]

I found out today about the new EES system that is to be introduced from October 12. I wonder if this is news to anyone else?

The Times today reports that when we enter Europe/leave the UK, “we will be asked a series of questions to confirm (we) have proof of accommodation, sufficient funds for the trip, medical insurance and a return or onward ticket.”

More fun comes towards the end of next year when, “the new European Travel Information and Authorisation System (Etias) will begin. It will mean British passport holders without a visa or residency permit will need to apply for a €20 visa waiver before travelling to the EU. It will work in a similar way to the US Esta and be valid for three years.”

Blue touch paper lit…

Took the Times long enough to publish that story.

 

[WelshGas]

Medical Insurance. What happened to the GHIC card for reciprocal healthcare??

A UK Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC) and the older European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) provide access to state-provided healthcare in the EU and Switzerland, as well as some other countries, for the same cost as a local resident. This includes emergency and medically necessary treatment, such as treatment for pre-existing conditions, routine maternity care, and certain treatments like oxygen therapy and kidney dialysis. However, they do not cover all healthcare costs and are not a replacement for travel insurance,

 

[acer]

A UK Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC) and the older European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) provide access to state-provided healthcare in the EU and Switzerland, as well as some other countries, for the same cost as a local resident. This includes emergency and medically necessary treatment, such as treatment for pre-existing conditions, routine maternity care, and certain treatments like oxygen therapy and kidney dialysis. However, they do not cover all healthcare costs and are not a replacement for travel insurance,

Repatriation is excluded from GHIC for example.

 

[WelshGas]

Repatriation is excluded from GHIC for example.

And treatment in Private facilities.

 

[Corradobrit]

So glad I'm close to achieving Permanent EU Resident status. Just passed the German Citizenship test now its a waiting game. I'm about to finally undo what did.......

 

[Corradobrit]

*Brex!t*

 

[CaliforniaCylus]

So glad I'm close to achieving Permanent EU Resident status. Just passed the German Citizenship test now its a waiting game. I'm about to finally undo what did.......

So with German citizenship would you take travel insurance every time you cross a border?

 

[BerndRos]

I have Portuguese residency that excludes me from the 90/180 days limit. I remain a U.K. tax payer with all NHS rights.

Prior to Brex!t as I owned a house out there and was there for about half of any year, I registered at the town hall, paid 15euro and got a 5 year certificate. After Brex!t was able to convert this into a bio metric card for 5 years and can renew as and when.

Registered with the Portuguese health service in case of emergency but keep all health matters with the UK.

All this only applies to Portugal and not rest of EU or Shengen area.

On arrival/exit from Portugal we show UK passports & PT residency cards, and our passports are NOT stamped.

 

[Califan61]

I found out today about the new EES system that is to be introduced from October 12. I wonder if this is news to anyone else?

The Times today reports that when we enter Europe/leave the UK, “we will be asked a series of questions to confirm (we) have proof of accommodation, sufficient funds for the trip, medical insurance and a return or onward ticket.”

More fun comes towards the end of next year when, “the new European Travel Information and Authorisation System (Etias) will begin. It will mean British passport holders without a visa or residency permit will need to apply for a €20 visa waiver before travelling to the EU. It will work in a similar way to the US Esta and be valid for three years.”

Blue touch paper lit…

The eu have been trying and failing to introduce EES for the last few years as a lot of places in the eu don't have the terminals or the space to include at the terminal. It will be a pain as everyone in your party has to access the terminal to scan in with a biometric ie get out the car scan passport, then scan biometrics. The border staff could then pull you over too. The EU now say it will be a phased introduction so not everyone will be scanned ( I guess that be some vehicles will be pulled over and some won't). For campervan travellers the border is at Dover so it's expected to cause delays as it will take longer to process vehicles. The tunnel already has the infrastructure in place. Other crossing will be done on the EU border side so who knows.

At airports it may cause delays, but it just will be another step in the border checks so should have less impact hopefully.

I guess this may be a pain for those going away for the October half-term when it's busier already. The system and checks are required to be fully introduced across all borders by 10 April 26.

There is talk of an app to at least prefill some details but there are no details of which borders are operatingit (apparently Dover wont be using it at the start) so keep an eye on your crossing bookings.

ETIAS is due to be introduced in late 26 but that can be accessed and filled in at home before travelling (similar to US ESTAS). This will cost 20 euros each and under 18s and over 70s are free.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/the-eu-entry-exit-system-and-eu-travel-authorisation-system/

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

I hope the UK reciprocates

 

[scottk]

I hope the UK reciprocates

I think the ETA has been in place since April for visitors to UK

 

[sidepod]

Think I’ll just pop across the channel on a dingy, much easier.

 

[Tarquers]

I have Portuguese residency that excludes me from the 90/180 days limit.

The 90/180 limit as a resident of an EU country still applies to you outside the country in which you are resident so for example, if you exceed 90 days in Spain you are breaking the rules. A point difficult to track and enforce but the EU states burden of proof is on you.

How do you manage your driving licence? With EU residency you are legally required to change your driving licence to that of your resident country after 3 months (surrendering your U.K. licence) and if stopped anywhere in EU this could be an issue.

I agree the rules are not easy and each country is still trying to work things out but maintaining 2 places of residence is not allowed even for EU citizens but enjoy it while it lasts!

 

[BerndRos]

The 90/180 limit as a resident of an EU country still applies to you outside the country in which you are resident so for example, if you exceed 90 days in Spain you are breaking the rules. A point difficult to track and enforce but the EU states burden of proof is on you.

How do you manage your driving licence? With EU residency you are legally required to change your driving licence to that of your resident country after 3 months (surrendering your U.K. licence) and if stopped anywhere in EU this could be an issue.

I agree the rules are not easy and each country is still trying to work things out but maintaining 2 places of residence is not allowed even for EU citizens but enjoy it while it lasts!

I think the overriding point is that Portugal and many other EU countries want foreigners in their country, as apart from anything else we are good for their GDP.

 

[secret lemonade drinker]

Can you not spend the occasional weekend in Gibraltar?

 

[wildslammer22]

I found out today about the new EES system that is to be introduced from October 12. I wonder if this is news to anyone else?

The Times today reports that when we enter Europe/leave the UK, “we will be asked a series of questions to confirm (we) have proof of accommodation, sufficient funds for the trip, medical insurance and a return or onward ticket.”

More fun comes towards the end of next year when, “the new European Travel Information and Authorisation System (Etias) will begin. It will mean British passport holders without a visa or residency permit will need to apply for a €20 visa waiver before travelling to the EU. It will work in a similar way to the US Esta and be valid for three years.”

Blue touch paper lit…

Taking back control…

 

[The Tall Luthier]

I think like all entry exit systems it will work itself out, there will be hiccups, it will slow us down, in the end it will just be our new slightly naff normal.

If the queue ever gets you down at Eurotunnel just smile at the thought that you don’t have to drive past Heathrow or the Dartford for a few weeks more to come. Instead you have the freedom of the French autoroutes.