expectations on tyres

[marek]

Hi, what is the expected distance from a set of tyre that are rotated every 5000 miles on a californian please?. from T6

 

[Wesel]

It strongly depends on the tire brand.

 

[andyinluton]

Where & how you drive makes a massive difference as well.

Live in Milton Keynes ( Roundabout central) & drive flat out they won't last long.
Mostly motorway cruising & they will last much much longer

 

[SusiBus]

A how long is a piece of string question.
Mine, 16/18,000 on fully loaded 4Motion doing loads of back roads in Scotland and Wales.

 

[marek]

thank you

 

[Wildcamper]

Not a Cali. But my LWB T6 conversion is on track to do 30+k on a set of Michelin Agilis. My target is 35k assuming no damage to the tyres. Check tracking, keep properly inflated, no rapid acceleration, avoid hard braking, avoid speeding. When I had a BMW 5 Series my record for a set of tyres was 45k.

 

[Aubisque]

Just swapped 5 year old GY Vector 4 Seasons at 40k miles, they still would have passed an MOT.
I drive as per above, I avoid hard acceleration/braking/cornering etc as it's a tank.

 

[Blue Yonder]

Mitchelin Crossclimate XL (not the stiffer walled SUV version) on 204 4 Motion last at least 20k miles. I rotate front to back at 10k miles Into the new tyre distance covered.

I had 4 wheel laser alignment done after taking delivery of the van from VW who had fitted 30mm lowering springs but had failed to re check wheel alignment geometry which caused uneven wear on the as supplied Continental Contact tyres. Had to change these tyres at 14k miles as a result. VW main dealer paid for the re alignment after I established they had failed to do this before delivery to me.

 

[oryx white]

Just changed our fronts for first time at 30k. Rears still have a little left. They were/are factory fitted Bridgestone Turanzas.

Gone for Bridgestone weather control evo replacements on the front which seem really good so far. Suspect the rolling resistance is less given the extra couple of mpg I seem to be getting. Also ride a bit better and don't thump on transverse ridges as much.

 

[chockswahay]

Just changed our fronts for first time at 30k. Rears still have a little left. They were/are factory fitted Bridgestone Turanzas.

Gone for Bridgestone weather control evo replacements on the front which seem really good so far. Suspect the rolling resistance is less given the extra couple of mpg I seem to be getting. Also ride a bit better and don't thump on transverse ridges as much.

Pardon me for saying this but according to received wisdom that is a potentially dangerous combination Could you swap front to back?

 

[oryx white]

Pardon me for saying this but according to received wisdom that is a potentially dangerous combination Could you swap front to back?

Not according to the specialist tyre shop. They suggested they go on the front ...

 

[chockswahay]

Not according to the specialist tyre shop. They suggested they go on the front ...

Oh dear

Where should your best two car tyres or new tyres be fitted?

Perhaps in your experience as a driver, you might have wondered whether your pair of tyres that are in better condition, should be mounted on the front, or the rear axle of your car. If so, you’re not the only one!

www.bridgestone.co.in

 

[oryx white]

Thank you for the heads up @chockswahay .

I've written to Bridgestone this morning to ask about the mixing of All-Season and summer tyres and where they should go. I see that Goodyear say replace all 4 at the same time if changing to All-Season tyres, so this will be interesting.

I must say I was a little surprised by the tyre shop's suggestion - but they're the experts, I thought. I'll go back to them to seek an appropriate resolution when I have Bridgestone's 'official' answer and go in fully-armed to do battle as necessary.

Wish me luck

 

[andyinluton]

Pardon me for saying this but according to received wisdom that is a potentially dangerous combination Could you swap front to back?

The argument is nothing about new tyres going on front or back. It's about mixing two different types of tyre.

I am happy to defend my right to put new tyres on the front if I want.

I wouldn't however mix the types, the handling characteristics are too different.
Depending on weather conditions, which end has most grip can change.

 

[Ocean Spirit]

The argument is nothing about new tyres going on front or back. It's about mixing two different types of tyre.

I am happy to defend my right to put new tyres on the front if I want.

I wouldn't however mix the types, the handling characteristics are too different.
Depending on weather conditions, which end has most grip can change.

And really that all started in not mixing cross-ply and radial tyres.

It makes perfect sense that the tyre brand and model are safer being the same across an axle (axle?? so to speak front or rear).
But once you hit radial tyres on all 4 corners (do cross ply even exist anymore?) and the same across an axle there is little to worry about really.

Cross plus and remoulds eh....back before tyres cost a small fortune.

 

[andyinluton]

But once you hit radial tyres on all 4 corners (do cross ply even exist anymore?) and the same across an axle there is little to worry about really.

I would agree to a certain extent but the difference between full winter & full summers is as different as Cross ply & Radials, with all season somewhere between the two.

 

[chockswahay]

I am happy to defend my right to put new tyres on the front if I want.

And I wouldn’t attempt to stop you ……..

 

[chockswahay]

And really that all started in not mixing cross-ply and radial tyres.

It makes perfect sense that the tyre brand and model are safer being the same across an axle (axle?? so to speak front or rear).
But once you hit radial tyres on all 4 corners (do cross ply even exist anymore?) and the same across an axle there is little to worry about really.

Cross plus and remoulds eh....back before tyres cost a small fortune.

I think you’ve missed the point here……. which is particularly about levels of grip and when the tyres ‘give up’ in inclement conditions…….

 

[chockswahay]

Thank you for the heads up @chockswahay .

I've written to Bridgestone this morning to ask about the mixing of All-Season and summer tyres and where they should go. I see that Goodyear say replace all 4 at the same time if changing to All-Season tyres, so this will be interesting.

I must say I was a little surprised by the tyre shop's suggestion - but they're the experts, I thought. I'll go back to them to seek an appropriate resolution when I have Bridgestone's 'official' answer and go in fully-armed to do battle as necessary.

Wish me luck

I’m glad to hear such a positive response, hopefully you will reach a satisfactory conclusion (shop changing them over if required…. F.O.C)

Keep us posted, it’s in our collective interests

 

[chockswahay]

BTW…..none of this is about ‘point scoring’ just a general concern regarding safety and best practice, I am merely presenting some facts that may allow more informed decisions to be made. Although I might take a different view if a car coming towards me as a result of losing control in bad conditions could have gone some way towards preventing an unnecessary‘excursion’ …..

 

[Ocean Spirit]

I think you’ve missed the point here……. which is particularly about levels of grip and when the tyres ‘give up’ in inclement conditions…….

Actually...correct I didn't read all the "quoted" posts which took my eye away the summer winter compound mixing.

 

[oryx white]

Okay everyone, thanks for all your input. I particularly appreciate your intentions to ensure a fellow member remains safe.

I have now spoken with Tom at the technical team at Bridgestone UK. Their advice is:

1. Never mix tyres on the same axle
2. That new tyres should be fitted to the rear when not all tyres are being replaced - so supporting the article you kindly highlighted @chockswahay
3. Whilst not ideal to mix all-season and summer tyres on different axles, it is not a critical or unsafe (or illegal) practice. It is a reasonable approach to take in migrating from summer to all-season tyres for reasons of cost. But one should be aware that neither set of tyres will be at optimum performance as the tyres are designed to work together as a set of 4

His advice to me was to rotate the tyres so the newer all-seasons were at the rear - and to replace the fronts when they get down to 3mm tread depth with a second pair of matching Bridgestone all-season tyres. I expect this will be relatively soon as the remaining summer tyres are at about 4mm depth.

I've spoken to the tyre shop and they are happy to rotate the tyres, so the new tyres are at the rear, at no charge, as they have been so recently fitted.

Thanks again to everyone for your concern.

 

[chockswahay]

Okay everyone, thanks for all your input. I particularly appreciate your intentions to ensure a fellow member remains safe.

I have now spoken with Tom at the technical team at Bridgestone UK. Their advice is:

1. Never mix tyres on the same axle
2. That new tyres should be fitted to the rear when not all tyres are being replaced - so supporting the article you kindly highlighted @chockswahay
3. Whilst not ideal to mix all-season and summer tyres on different axles, it is not a critical or unsafe (or illegal) practice. It is a reasonable approach to take in migrating from summer to all-season tyres for reasons of cost. But one should be aware that neither set of tyres will be at optimum performance as the tyres are designed to work together as a set of 4

His advice to me was to rotate the tyres so the newer all-seasons were at the rear - and to replace the fronts when they get down to 3mm tread depth with a second pair of matching Bridgestone all-season tyres. I expect this will be relatively soon as the remaining summer tyres are at about 4mm depth.

I've spoken to the tyre shop and they are happy to rotate the tyres, so the new tyres are at the rear, at no charge, as they have been so recently fitted.

Thanks again to everyone for your concern.

Nice!

 

[Hedley Wright]

I hope the Bridgestones work well for you. I’ve just discarded a set of Weather Control A005 at 5,000 miles after three punctures from stones. The sidewalls also bulged more than I liked the look of. Moved to Michelin Latitude Cross.

 

[oryx white]

I hope the Bridgestones work well for you. I’ve just discarded a set of Weather Control A005 at 5,000 miles after three punctures from stones. The sidewalls also bulged more than I liked the look of. Moved to Michelin Latitude Cross.

Certainly hope I don't have your experience!