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BeatrixKiddo

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@Wondering Star Re your pop up, what do you mean re no weight limit? I think our garage is only putting on 100w solar panel. It's a flexible one too.
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
On a Cali the bed base is a slated frame covered by a fabric board which forms the roof lining, weight limit I believe is 150kg. This is a slimline design to retain the Transporters original roof lines.
On the Hymer the poptop is actually added on to the roof of the original van , hence the high roof. If you look at the picture of mine the increase height from the awning is the poptop cassette, this depth is the reason why you can store bedding etc.
Because it fits into the Sprinter roof, its incredibly strong, hence no weight limit.
The access cutout is the only alteration.
Signing off, distant calls of 'is my coffee ready'.
 
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T5 Beach
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Ment to add, we eventually purchased from Campersales in Burgess Hill , tried other dealers without much luck, some never even supplied a quote or returned calls for days.
Campersales were very good and respected our social distancing requirements.
Handover was excellent by Rob, the whole process was painless and straightforward.
Thought I should give them a mention.
We are considering the Grand Canyon as our next Purchase. Did you go for the autobox / 4x4 options - interested to hear how it drives in the real world.

Have found Rob very helpful in the past when we needed some advice with our past T4 and current Beach.
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
Hi
We have a 163bhp 2wd 7 speed auto
Options
Chassis pack, wanted led headlamps
(Good but not as bright as Cali's)
Style pack, leather trim with driver/passenger seat upgrade.
Heated front windscreen, side door assist, 10.25MBUX with additional reverse camera very good indeed, a voice activated system actually works.
2x lesuire batteries with 2x 100w solar, external gas connection, towbar, long range fuel tank, diesel powered heating, poptop, etc.
The drive is very different after all its 6m long and 2.6m high.
More susceptible to side winds, slightly noisier and not as agile, however this not a criticism it just takes a little time to adjust. It has a character of it's own, we have no regrets whatsoever.
 
Soton Campers

Soton Campers

Southampton Campers
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Southampton
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T6 Ocean 150
We have the Grand California 600 with the over cab bed. I'm 5 9 and could sleep up there if I had to. Only on my own though!
 
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BeatrixKiddo

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@Wondering Star ...can you tell me who you got insurance with? We are having slight issues as have to park on road (our driveway is just 6 metres long) and this is pushing price up. Sounds like we have same spec of van. We didn't have any choice in the matter but are pleased with the spec. Looking forward hopefully to collecting it this coming week and setting off beginning of October (hopefully!)
 
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melkwegstelsel
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T5 SE 140
How many people do you know at 6.7” !!!
Well, I am 6.4" and I don't fit in a GC bed. I can manage in the normal California bed and a normal bed, but just.
I should need a bed of at least 220cm in length.
And I know some people that are over 6 foot, so it is not abnormal these days.
The time of being tall when you reached 5.9" is gone.
Unluckily, no single standard catches up with the people.
Try to find a wide range of shoes in size 13 (47 - 48).
When I go into a shoe store, there is too much choice in the range 42 - 46. In the range of 47 - 48, you can count the shoes on your 2 hands.
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
My insurance is with Comfort £405, i think its underwritten by Arriva.
Thatcham alarm/immobiliser plus Scorpion tracker.
I am however lucky to have enough room to park on the drive.
 
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Steven Dodds

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Aberdeen
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T6 Coast 150
Hi Steve
We purchased our Hymer Grand Canyon S a few weeks ago.
Much like you the Hymer buying experience was underwhelming to say the least.
We purchased a 2wd with a number of additions.
With two kids the pop top is great, due to its design all bedding and even the stair ladder can be left in place in the roof.
We are camping now, so easy just stock up the 90l fridge/freezer and off you go, no faff with packing or setting up at the other end.
For us the camping experience is far better.
Driveability is very pleasant, however dont expect the silky smooth drive of the 150 dsg. It feels more van like compared to the car like feel of the Transporter.(we have the upgraded 163 bhp).
It is however very comfortable, great seats and the 10.25 information system is brilliant.
Rear bed is much more comfortable than the VW, shower/ toilet works well.
All interior fittings are great quality, with one exception, the sink tap feels a little low rent.
We had solar fitted to the roof, heating is diesel, with the gas supplying the cooker only.
We love it and can't wait to explore far and wide when good times return.
Stay safe everyone.
Hey thanks for the response it’s much appreciated. I’m glad your enjoying van they look great. I have actually decided to go high spec grand California 600 this is for a few reason, it’s slightly cheaper, you have local dealer support, reduced cost With discount offered and far shorter delivery time 3 month versus 12 month offered by Hymer. I appreciate that the van is not as pleasing on the eye and top bed is not as good as the pop top however just had to way up the options. There is only 3 off us so the top bed doesn’t cause to much an issue my son is only 5 so he loves the area. On a number of occasions when away in the Cali we have had to lower the roof due to wind so I guess with everything there pros and cons .. Hopefully we’ve made the rite choice!! Stay safe and enjoy your next adventure
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
Totally understand your reasons, it was only the bed size that didn't work for us, 13 and 11yr old.
Pop top has plus's and minus's, off to the coast today 40kph winds expected tonight, dont think the roof will be going up!
My experiences in the past with Motorhome dealers has been average at best , the VW network is far superior and a good local dealer is a massive plus.
Enjoy you new van, next year Freedom
 
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BeatrixKiddo

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@Wondering Star Picked up ours on Thursday and it's sitting on the roadway (can't go away yet). So much to learn about all the bits and bobs!
 
Breeze1

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Dorset
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Grand California 600
Hey thanks for the response it’s much appreciated. I’m glad your enjoying van they look great. I have actually decided to go high spec grand California 600 this is for a few reason, it’s slightly cheaper, you have local dealer support, reduced cost With discount offered and far shorter delivery time 3 month versus 12 month offered by Hymer. I appreciate that the van is not as pleasing on the eye and top bed is not as good as the pop top however just had to way up the options. There is only 3 off us so the top bed doesn’t cause to much an issue my son is only 5 so he loves the area. On a number of occasions when away in the Cali we have had to lower the roof due to wind so I guess with everything there pros and cons .. Hopefully we’ve made the rite choice!! Stay safe and enjoy your next adventure
You will not regret it I promise you silky smooth to drive just like driving a car. Can confirm the heating works like a dream either on gas or electric as I have just completed the NC 500 was pretty chilly towards the end of the week. Also great on very narrow roads. There was a lot of wing mirror debris and tapped up wing mirrors mainly from Fiat based camper vans.

enjoy.
 
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@Wondering Star How's it going? I wonder if you 've managed to find an option for hairdrying on your van (vanity question I know!). Also did you manage to get mats for the drivers & passengers footwells? Thanks a lot.
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
Hi
The Grand Canyon going well thanks, no problems at all. Now named 'Nora the Explorer '
Had a few local weekends away, all year round camping is now possible.
Kids happy upstairs, had thought about buying the insulated poptop inner but purchased two single wool filled duvets instead (Devon Duvets).
Engine getting better all the time, averaging 25mpg.
Not purchased a hair driver but did fit rubber mats.
Ordered mine through Mercedes, driver and passenger plus connector to link together ( does not cover walk through area) £60, excellent quality, thick heavy rubber.
Solar panels working well so far, off to the lake district at half term no electric and not expecting much sun so we will see how that goes.
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BeatrixKiddo

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We are hoping to go out this weekend for our maiden voyage, so won't be too far. Those look good mats. I'm leaving it to Mr BK to check website as it's so confusing about what model etc we are. We do have the insulation (by mistake). We spoke about having it with the dealer then decided against it however it turned up! Might need it though as plan going to NE Scotland soon. Do you mind checking something for me. The manual implies that if you close some of the hot air vents (say 2) then extra heat will come out from the one left open. In our van the only one that seems to have the ability to close is the one under the bed downstairs. PS I have managed to source the manual in English if you would like a copy.
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
Hi
Can confirm as with yours the only closeable heating vent is in the under bed area, presumably to stop items packed in to that space getting hot.
With regards to heating, we have the diesel option presumably the same if using gas but if you leave the dinette window open, even on trickle the heating will shut down and a fault code will display on control panel. This is to make sure no gasses from the truma vent feed back in to the vehicle, presumably that's why the N/S poptop window is a clear plastic rather than mesh.
Mats came from Eastern Western Motor Company in West Lorhian
Ebay purchase www.stores.ebay.co.uk/C-V-P-Edinburgh
Jsmith@easternholdings.co.uk
You can order via ebay but you will have to supplya chassis number as there's so many variants.
Cost £58.01 delivered which I thought was good value.
Is the manual a Hymer manual? I have a Mercedes Sprinter and a number of individual manuals for heating etc.
The only thing we havn't tried is the shower, we did use it externally (hose through window and attach to body with adapter which was good to have after the kids fell in a river paddleboarding!
Not sure how practical it is in such a small space.
I did see on an American website one owner had fitted a velcro fixed cargo net to the headlinning above the cab which I thought was a good idea for additional storage.
You can never have enough cupboards!
 
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BeatrixKiddo

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Can confirm as with yours the only closeable heating vent is in the under bed area, presumably to stop items packed in to that space getting hot.
With regards to heating, we have the diesel option presumably the same if using gas but if you leave the dinette window open, even on trickle the heating will shut down and a fault code will display on control panel. This is to make sure no gasses from the truma vent feed back in to the vehicle, presumably that's why the N/S poptop window is a clear plastic rather than mesh.
Mats came from Eastern Western Motor Company in West Lorhian
Ebay purchase www.stores.ebay.co.uk/C-V-P-Edinburgh
Jsmith@easternholdings.co.uk
You can order via ebay but you will have to supplya chassis number as there's so many variants.
Cost £58.01 delivered which I thought was good value.
Is the manual a Hymer manual? I have a Mercedes Sprinter and a number of individual manuals for heating etc.
The only thing we havn't tried is the shower, we did use it externally (hose through window and attach to body with adapter which was good to have after the kids fell in a river paddleboarding!
Not sure how practical it is in such a small space.
I did see on an American website one owner had fitted a velcro fixed cargo net to the headlinning above the cab which I thought was a good idea for additional storage.
You can never have enough cupboards!

Hello! I didn't get notification that you had replied and I've spent days trawling the internet. Both sitting here this morning and doing the same and I said to Mr BK that I'll send you another message! Thanks so much for this information and now we will be able to order too. Yes we have the Hymer manual. How do I send it to you? We went off for our first night last weekend. Spent the night opposite Hampstead Heath so were exploring there at 7am last Sunday. I haven't seen the velcro fixed cargo net...sounds interesting.
Disappointing that after spending so much on a vehicle we are having to hunt for information (and buy rubber mats!). We slept downstairs last weekend but see we have a safety net in the pop top (which might be good for your children). It's white nylon kind of material however ours will only fit in one side of the holder for it. The insulation....we can't work out how that fixes as it indicates there should be magnets in the roof. I can see another visit to our dealer soon :) Thanks for all the information ...away to order parts now as Mr BK has found chassis number as I've been typing
 
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Wondering Star

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Cambridgeshire
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T6 Beach 150
Hi
Ok for manual, found I had info in all the various book packs.
The safety net you mentioned will fit in both sides it just requires a little force to locate. When located in place the net tention is ment to be tight.
There also seams to be a knack to release, I just push on one side and it pops out. The more i use it the easier it seams to get. It also means the kids can't release themselves, good and bad especially when one of them wants the loo at 2am !
Off to the Lake district for a few days, Eskdale NT site which I can recommend if you into walking and isolation.
With regards to the pop top insulation, can you tell me what it's made of, my son has a dustmite allergy and I want to check materials used are suitable.
 

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