GrannyJen
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No more arguments.
Thank you MattBW for your message informing me of the rancour that has erupted. You really made my day. I was in the radiology waiting room preparing to be blasted by some isotope or other when I risked life and I-Pad to log in to my email and you really cheered me up
When I left this forum I think my final words were please welcome back Matt, he has a lot to offer, the past is past, lets move on. Can I ask everyone to please respect that. No further rancour.
I am not surprised there is rancour. I respected Matt’s apology but had warned others in the moderation team what the forum reaction was likely to be on his return. Me being abused and vilified in another forum was nothing compared to the way this forum was treated and it is this forum that deserves an apology, not me. I took the decision that I could no longer be active in this forum as much out of cowardice of not wanting to be involved in it as anything else.
What also has happened was my own feeling of a glass jar being shattered. My own particular Nirvana broken. Everything in forums that I wanted to escape from was here. We had a laugh, we respected each other, we were a community revelling in our lifestyle, we shared happy memories and the joy of our adventures together. I was chuffed to the moon and back when one member said she let her daughter read my posts because they were so much fun. Very little griping, moaning, whingeing and abrasive back-biting. As much respect for the battered T4 self-build as for the SE with all the trimmings. As much respect for the mechanically hapless granny as for the butch he-man with his bag of spanners and hammers.
However I saw all the bitching of the past coming back and I do not want to be part of it. I have suffered much heartache in the past trying to repair glass jars and I do not want more.
I have always lived with forums that had clear rules and there has to be a final sanction. The very last one, when warnings and bans are not enough, when someone still fails to respect a time-out, a yellow card, a pause in membership and continues to create disharmony by other means. There has to be a final sanction or there is anarchy and that final sanction can only ever be cancellation of membership, full stop. Without that you might as well put a sign over the door saying “no moderation here, no respect for anyone here.”
On was not one in place this time, and in full fairness to Matt one cannot be retrospectively applied. I hope upon hope for this forum that one is put in place, at the bottom of a set of light-touch rules, that everyone knows that they sign up to when becoming a member of this forum. Then we avoid all this unpleasantness,
Now I’m going off to be sick for reasons that I am sure WelshGas can explain.
Thank you MattBW for your message informing me of the rancour that has erupted. You really made my day. I was in the radiology waiting room preparing to be blasted by some isotope or other when I risked life and I-Pad to log in to my email and you really cheered me up
When I left this forum I think my final words were please welcome back Matt, he has a lot to offer, the past is past, lets move on. Can I ask everyone to please respect that. No further rancour.
I am not surprised there is rancour. I respected Matt’s apology but had warned others in the moderation team what the forum reaction was likely to be on his return. Me being abused and vilified in another forum was nothing compared to the way this forum was treated and it is this forum that deserves an apology, not me. I took the decision that I could no longer be active in this forum as much out of cowardice of not wanting to be involved in it as anything else.
What also has happened was my own feeling of a glass jar being shattered. My own particular Nirvana broken. Everything in forums that I wanted to escape from was here. We had a laugh, we respected each other, we were a community revelling in our lifestyle, we shared happy memories and the joy of our adventures together. I was chuffed to the moon and back when one member said she let her daughter read my posts because they were so much fun. Very little griping, moaning, whingeing and abrasive back-biting. As much respect for the battered T4 self-build as for the SE with all the trimmings. As much respect for the mechanically hapless granny as for the butch he-man with his bag of spanners and hammers.
However I saw all the bitching of the past coming back and I do not want to be part of it. I have suffered much heartache in the past trying to repair glass jars and I do not want more.
I have always lived with forums that had clear rules and there has to be a final sanction. The very last one, when warnings and bans are not enough, when someone still fails to respect a time-out, a yellow card, a pause in membership and continues to create disharmony by other means. There has to be a final sanction or there is anarchy and that final sanction can only ever be cancellation of membership, full stop. Without that you might as well put a sign over the door saying “no moderation here, no respect for anyone here.”
On was not one in place this time, and in full fairness to Matt one cannot be retrospectively applied. I hope upon hope for this forum that one is put in place, at the bottom of a set of light-touch rules, that everyone knows that they sign up to when becoming a member of this forum. Then we avoid all this unpleasantness,
Now I’m going off to be sick for reasons that I am sure WelshGas can explain.
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