tyre confusion

[turnitdown]

I have factory summer tyres on my 2024 Ocean and they are *terrible* in snow. Looking to replace them with something I can use year round, including in the Highlands and Alps in winter. From reviews and prior forum discussion it sounds like a lot of people pick Michelin Crossclimate 2s for this. However I'm confused about the options.

My current tyres are 215/60/R17 C 109/107T LT. They are on factory rims, the 17" Aracaju alloy 7Js.

Michelin's website and various others (e.g. Blackcircles) give different information about what tyres will work on the vehicle, some of which is clearly inaccurate (e.g. load ratings below 100).

It looks like 215/60R17 109T (which will definitely work) are £250 each fitted, which is painful. I can buy CC2 in 215/65/R17 103 V XL for about £150 each fitted. Would that work (65 aspect ratio rather than 60)? I realise the speedometer would be off by 2-3, I'm wondering more from a fit/legal perspective?

Otherwise it looks like the one options are the 215s at £250 each or 235s at £160 each, which would require new rims (and so cost more rather than less in the end). Is this right or am I missing something?

Blackcircles has Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Cargo for £150 each fitted. I have no idea how they compare to the CC2 but £400 isn't nothing.

 

[WelshGas]

I have factory summer tyres on my 2024 Ocean and they are *terrible* in snow. Looking to replace them with something I can use year round, including in the Highlands and Alps in winter. From reviews and prior forum discussion it sounds like a lot of people pick Michelin Crossclimate 2s for this. However I'm confused about the options.

My current tyres are 215/60/R17 C 109/107T LT. They are on factory rims, the 17" Aracaju alloy 7Js.

Michelin's website and various others (e.g. Blackcircles) give different information about what tyres will work on the vehicle, some of which is clearly inaccurate (e.g. load ratings below 100).

It looks like 215/60R17 109T (which will definitely work) are £250 each fitted, which is painful. I can buy CC2 in 215/65/R17 103 V XL for about £150 each fitted. Would that work (65 aspect ratio rather than 60)? I realise the speedometer would be off by 2-3, I'm wondering more from a fit/legal perspective?

Otherwise it looks like the one options are the 215s at £250 each or 235s at £160 each, which would require new rims (and so cost more rather than less in the end). Is this right or am I missing something?

Blackcircles has Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Cargo for £150 each fitted. I have no idea how they compare to the CC2 but £400 isn't nothing.

The VW 17" tyres will happily take 215 or 235 tyres.
Normally the tyre sticker on the Drivers door gives information about both tyre widths as both are fitted by the factory.

 

[andyinluton]

I have factory summer tyres on my 2024 Ocean and they are *terrible* in snow. Looking to replace them with something I can use year round, including in the Highlands and Alps in winter. From reviews and prior forum discussion it sounds like a lot of people pick Michelin Crossclimate 2s for this. However I'm confused about the options.

My current tyres are 215/60/R17 C 109/107T LT. They are on factory rims, the 17" Aracaju alloy 7Js.

Michelin's website and various others (e.g. Blackcircles) give different information about what tyres will work on the vehicle, some of which is clearly inaccurate (e.g. load ratings below 100).

It looks like 215/60R17 109T (which will definitely work) are £250 each fitted, which is painful. I can buy CC2 in 215/65/R17 103 V XL for about £150 each fitted. Would that work (65 aspect ratio rather than 60)? I realise the speedometer would be off by 2-3, I'm wondering more from a fit/legal perspective?

Otherwise it looks like the one options are the 215s at £250 each or 235s at £160 each, which would require new rims (and so cost more rather than less in the end). Is this right or am I missing something?

Blackcircles has Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Cargo for £150 each fitted. I have no idea how they compare to the CC2 but £400 isn't nothing.

The Aracaju rims will take 235 tyres. my 2020 ocean came had factory fitted 235s on those rims.

 

[turnitdown]

ah, very interesting. I'd read an online guide to tyre sizing that said 7Js would only tolerate up to 225s. I missed that the door sticker says the 235s will fit on the 7Js.

I can order CC2 235/55 R17 103 Y for £150/tyre fitted. Sounds like these should work perfectly fine then?

 

[WelshGas]

ah, very interesting. I'd read an online guide to tyre sizing that said 7Js would only tolerate up to 225s. I missed that the door sticker says the 235s will fit on the 7Js.

I can order CC2 235/55 R17 103 Y for £150/tyre fitted. Sounds like these should work perfectly fine then?

That’s what I used for the last 8 yrs.

 

[chockswahay]

I can’t really comment on the ‘snowability’ of the CC2’s but I have had them for a year now and at least they do inspire a level of confidence. They certainly are sure footed in wet weather and deep standing water.

Good value I reckon

 

[Azteccamper]

Yokohama bluEarth just won best all season tyre 24/25. Black Circles offer 4 for £465.
I’ve used CC2’s in the past but trying UniRoyal this time as I had a good deal on them. They all carry the 3 peaks symbol.

 

[pjm-84]

I've had Goodyear (17in) / Bridgestone (18in) and now on CC2 (18in)...... first or last but not the ones in the middle.

Currently on 16k miles on my 18in CCs which is unheard of in T5 / T6 circles