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LoveBirds_1964

LoveBirds_1964

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Leiden, The Netherlands
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T6.1 Ocean 150
We decided to treat our Billy with a Dinitrol treatment. This put us back about 1400 euro's including full warranty for 5 years. And we had the rims powdercoated and we installed Michelin Agilis Crossclimate 205/65r16 107t all-season tyres. We are very happy with her new looks and with the much improved performance on (Dutch) wet roads and wet grass.

We especially like the "stealthy" non-camper look as we love to camp off-grid and public areas.

What do you people think?

Stay safe!

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AndyWT

AndyWT

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Location
Italy
Vehicle
T4 PopTop
We decided to treat our Billy with a Dinitrol treatment. This put us back about 1400 euro's including full warranty for 5 years. And we had the rims powdercoated and we installed Michelin Agilis Crossclimate 205/65r16 107t all-season tyres. We are very happy with her new looks and with the much improved performance on (Dutch) wet roads and wet grass.

We especially like the "stealthy" non-camper look as we love to camp off-grid and public areas.

What do you people think?

Stay safe!

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Excellent, the only reason my hard used 21 year old T4 Cali is still around is it was treated to the same Dinitrol early in life, the only corrosion is the bits they missed.
 
Calimili

Calimili

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Lake Starnberg
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T6 Ocean 150 4Motion
We decided to treat our Billy with a Dinitrol treatment. This put us back about 1400 euro's including full warranty for 5 years. And we had the rims powdercoated and we installed Michelin Agilis Crossclimate 205/65r16 107t all-season tyres. We are very happy with her new looks and with the much improved performance on (Dutch) wet roads and wet grass.

We especially like the "stealthy" non-camper look as we love to camp off-grid and public areas.

What do you people think?

Stay safe!

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Your van is saying : "I'm ready for war! ":cool:
 
Perfectos

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T6 Beach 150
Thanks, that’s my experience as well getting my fourth seal fitted Monday !

so who’s going to break the first story of a T6.1 with roof rot, it only a matter of time?
 
66tim99

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T6.1 Ocean 150
Thanks, that’s my experience as well getting my fourth seal fitted Monday !

so who’s going to break the first story of a T6.1 with roof rot, it only a matter of time?
What a poor design.
You’ve replaced roughly every how many years?
Daft question: There’s no prevention solution then?
 
Perfectos

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What a poor design.
You’ve replaced roughly every how many years?
Daft question: There’s no prevention solution then?
Replaced roof Seal : 2018 van

the dates below are when the work was carried out by the Dealer, not necessarily when the failure was reported.

# 1 (factory fitted seal)
noted as failed Aug19 - rust evident within the seal recess on (first clean / inspection of roof edge & seal) = failure on the rear corner replaced sept 19 - i.e seal #2 fitted:
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#2 dealer fitted: noted as failed Aug 21 rust evident within the seal recess recess on front edge where roof profile blends from lower to upper level. Seal # fitted October 21
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#3 Dealer fitted: Noted as failed Nov 21 - seal rust evident leaching from a small hole in the manufactured joint, front O/s corner. Reported several weeks after fitting of previous failed seal In Oct 21
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#4 due to be fitted imminently I incidentally the photo above is of the font of the roof with the side tape (factory fitted) in the lower left of the photo. Dealers are instructed to clean the roof edge fully before fit replacement seals !

All failures have been at different points on the seal, the last I belive is purely a manufacturing fault that was not picked up during fitting, but the amount of rust observed leaching is more considerable than the previous two failures.

i will post this detail and some photos in another thread specifically related To this issue to assist other when carrying out specific search(s).


edit: importantly two have failed on the front of the roof where VW have omitted to fit the remedial “ tape” in an attempt to prevent this issue !

Clear there is still a major issue with this part and VW have failed to resolve the known issue since production of the T5, it is now being reported on T6.1 models.
 
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icic

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UK
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T6 Ocean 150
Thanks, that’s my experience as well getting my fourth seal fitted Monday !

so who’s going to break the first story of a T6.1 with roof rot, it only a matter of time?
Gosh sorry you having this going on, does this rust issue apply to T6s as well
 
Perfectos

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Gosh sorry you having this going on, does this rust issue apply to T6s as well
This issue applies to T5, T5.1, T6 & T6.1 models i.e all transporter based models (All) as they use exactly the same roof seal !
 
Perfectos

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I'm expecting ours early next year, so all this to look forward to and no direct experience, so apologies if this is a stupid question, but has anyone tried an aftermarket seal instead of the VW one...something like this? https://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/product/1286/door-seal
Hi Big John,

the seal is the conglomeration of two profiles of rubber seal
the two profiles are specifically jointed to become as one continuous rubber seal (the front section is a knife edge seal at the front of the roof , jointed at 90 degrees to the ”u” profile seal at the Sides and back, to form one continuous seal unique to the VW California )
I.e the factory seal is unique, specific to VW & not replaceable with a proprietary after market seal as it is specifically designed & manufactured for VW, to VW specifications and is designed to be a non serviceable part by VW. I.e a fit and forget weather seal, designed to be fitted at the factory, to last the duration of the vehicles life (Not).

Specifically this seal is manufactured to VW, design and VW specification, I.e a unique part specific to this / these model(s) ( the California) and not readily available from other sources / suppliers.

IMO the seal is a cheap part, poorly designed, not fit for the purpose it has been designed to fulfil a role, that when used as intended causes / has the potential to cause wider “known” issues, relating directly to its specific use, poor design & manufacturing , which is a known cause specifically causing / has the potential to cause secondary issues as a direct result of its intended use, (as designed & intended by VW ) thorough NO fault of the user, I.e. as VW intended it to be used by the user over the course of the intended use of the Van (in a way that it was intended to be used) and as was specifically designed & intended to be used by VW !
 
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