WelshGas
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Knordkapp. End of the road in Norway. Furthest North you can drive in the EU/Europe.Where is this?
Knordkapp. End of the road in Norway. Furthest North you can drive in the EU/Europe.
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Seeing as I didn’t wish to go on a ferry, it was the furthest most point I could drive to. I didn’t cross over any water to get there. Norway is part of the EU Schengen area so as far as I am concerned part of the EU, and by the way I did state EU/Europe and as my California is not amphibious I wasn’t aware of a road to the middle of the Karasjohka River that I could have driven.Several accuracy issues with that final sentence @WelshGas
You can drive further north in Europe, you just need to get a ferry there if travelling from continental Europe.
Norway is not in the EU, so neither is Nordkapp. The most northerly point of the continental EU is In the middle of the Karasjohka River, about 2km east of the Finnish community at Nuorgam. If I recall correctly there are some Danish dependent islands further north that that.
And just for completeness, Nordkapp is on an island, so not part of continental Europe.
Does this definition work?
“Nordkapp is the northernmost point in Europe that can be accessed by car from the Eurasian continent.”
It’s a remote tourist trap.
Not Cali related but probably my most memorable trip: Mrs WW and I in front of the abs huge statues of Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang N Korea. You were only allowed to photograph the whole of both statues.
Yes the whole experience was fascinating yet bizarre. We went the Xmas before the Palin documentary, which I thought gave an even more glossy picture than we got from our 2 guides that didn't leave our sides for the 3 days we were there. It was -10 most of the time but we got a good insight and saw a lot more than they showed on the BBC: the 30mph train there and back from Dandong in China chugged past faceless villages of white bungalows with dirt roads and ox-drawn carts as the only visible transport apart from the Chinese trucks that were queued up for miles at the border in Dandong. The 2 hours of questioning and searching by officious DPRK guards on the border over the Yalu River both ways was oppressive, especially with all the bribing that was going on by the Chinese businessmen in our train compartment, one of which apparently had 1000s of US Dollars hidden in bags of tea. I also got to sample the Taedonggang beer that I'd wanted to try, which was brewed in the old Ushers brewery that was bought for £1.5m and transported from Trowbridge in Wilts when Ushers went bust.Must be a really interesting country to visit. I've always fancied seeing it (well, the bits they let you see anyway). Michael Palin's TV travelogue/docu on DPRK a year or two ago was a good appetite-whetter.
Yes the whole experience was fascinating yet bizarre. We went the Xmas before the Palin documentary, which I thought gave an even more glossy picture than we got from our 2 guides that didn't leave our sides for the 3 days we were there. It was -10 most of the time but we got a good insight and saw a lot more than they showed on the BBC: the 30mph train there and back from Dandong in China chugged past faceless villages of white bungalows with dirt roads and ox-drawn carts as the only visible transport apart from the Chinese trucks that were queued up for miles at the border in Dandong. The 2 hours of questioning and searching by officious DPRK guards on the border over the Yalu River both ways was oppressive, especially with all the bribing that was going on by the Chinese businessmen in our train compartment, one of which apparently had 1000s of US Dollars hidden in bags of tea. I also got to sample the Taedonggang beer that I'd wanted to try, which was brewed in the old Ushers brewery that was bought for £1.5m and transported from Trowbridge in Wilts when Ushers went bust.
Yes they take to several shops to marvel at the dead Kim's books on Juche ideology, and to where he was born etc etc.: I just bought a t-shirt but the transfer came off after the 1st wash ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Conveyor belts have been around since a least 1900 to transport coal, so I think that's just a bit of their propaganda as was the fact that the Americans caused the Korean war after the N invaded the S. The flight from Beijing is operated by Air Koryo in poorly maintained Tupolevs, so I'd give that a miss and take the train option.I’d love to visit NK. My brother flew there from Beijing ~20 years ago. He brought back a biography of Kim Il-sung translated into English. A fascinating read - I had no idea the Eternal Leader was such a prolific inventor, inventing things such as the conveyor belt. And as well as suppressing the population of NK he found the time to write some 1500 books.
I have found a suitable home for you.Which I have indeed traversed. But not in a Cali.
We cheated and went there on a Hurtigruten ship December 2018. Boy oh boy was it cold.Seeing as I didn’t wish to go on a ferry, it was the furthest most point I could drive to. I didn’t cross over any water to get there. Norway is part of the EU Schengen area so as far as I am concerned part of the EU, and by the way I did state EU/Europe and as my California is not amphibious I wasn’t aware of a road to the middle of the Karasjohka River that I could have driven.
As far as “ a tourist trap “ that is your opinion. Myself , I found it very interesting especially the history,
In 1553 an expedition of three ships sailed from England in search of the Northeastern Passage. Two of the ships never returned home. The third ship with Richard Chancellor as commander passed a mighty mountain plateau and gave it the name Nordkapp. Over a century later the Italian priest Francesco Negri arrived at the same cliff. He is considered the first tourist to Nordkapp, and describes it as the end of the known world. It took another two hundred years before tourism to Nordkapp established. In 1873 the union king Oscar climbed the steep cliff of Nordkapp. This visit sparked great interest around the world, and just two years later the first group of travelers on a cruise arrived. The journey to the far north was a great achievement and was celebrated with a glass of Champagne - a tradition still kept alive at Nordkapp.
Finally, I found the Thai Museum , next to the St Johns Chapel extremely interesting.
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