Norway is shutting down

[Velma's Dad]

This Epidemiologist is not impressed.

I’m an epidemiologist. When I heard about Britain’s ‘herd immunity’ coronavirus plan, I thought it was satire | William Hanage

Vulnerable people should not be exposed to Covid-19 right now in the service of a hypothetical future, says William Hanage, a professor of the evolution and epidemiology of infectious disease at Harvard

www.theguardian.com

As I read today (Sunday Times), the 'herd immunity' thing was something put out by Dr David Halpern, the head of the Nudge Unit (and a psychologist, not a public health specialist), and he got bollocked for it. I'd say it's inevitable that messaging is going to be inconsistent at times, and the media is ready to pounce on any cracks in the comms grid.

 

[Amarillo]

My parents, aunt and uncle on the Hurtigruten are now stranded off Tromso. After sailing from Bergen to Kirkenes the ship turned around heading back to Bergen. It was ordered into port at Tromso and my parents have not been allowed to disembark. They make no mention of the other passengers aboard - dad's not good with mobile devices, and mum even worse.

They are all enjoying the adventure.

 

[Lightning]

Germany is set to close its borders with France, Austria and Switzerland from 8am on Monday to try to stem the spread of the Covid-19 pandemic, German media reported on Sunday afternoon.

Exceptions are expected to be made for goods traffic and commuters.

 

[westfalia]

● Two fatalities associated with Covid-19, but not included in the official figures, were those of Doreen Noakes, 76, and her husband Ronald, 78, of Warminster in Wiltshire. They suffocated in their sleep when an estimated 11 tons of hoarded lavatory paper smashed through from their attic into the bedroom beneath.

Mrs Noakes had become a familiar sight in the local area, wheeling home shopping trolley after shopping trolley full of vanilla-scented four-ply from the supermarket.

Her daughter Julie, 51, said: “Mum did the same thing during the Sars outbreak, the bird flu outbreak, the Iranian Revolution, the summer drought of 1976 and the Cuban Missile Crisis. All stored in the attic. We believe that somewhere near the bottom of that great pile was some of that shiny stuff that looks like tracing paper, which you can’t get any more.”

Julie added: “It’s how she would have wanted to go, to be honest. Smelling lovely and with incredibly clean nether regions.”

Also from the ST classic rod.

 

[willwander]

After 18 months planning and saving Mrs willwanders son and his girlfriend left their jobs on Friday to go ‘traveling’, bad timing.

Due to fly to Oz on Wednesday, found out This morning they will have to self quarantine for 14 days on arrival. Insurance not looking like it will pay out. Tough call.

 

[flying banana]

Sorry, but I do.

Sorry dude. I was trying to get a bite. It worked earlier on in the thread though. Now I'm trying to save face but suspect I'm passed that

 

[westfalia]

After 18 months planning and saving Mrs willwanders son and his girlfriend left their jobs on Friday to go ‘traveling’, bad timing.

Due to fly to Oz on Wednesday, found out This morning they will have to self quarantine for 14 days on arrival. Insurance not looking like it will pay out. Tough call.

What does the self quarantine actually involve.
I take it that its not just staying in a Hotel 2metres away from everyone.

 

[willwander]

What does the self quarantine actually involve.
I take it that its not just staying in a Hotel 2metres away from everyone.

Trying to figure that out. Looking like self isolation in hotel room for 14 days on arrival.
Applies to all international arrivals to Australia and NZ. Would have been better to have a total travel ban, then travel insurance would have kicked in.

 

[AlisonF]

Apologies if this has already been posted. I don’t yet have an English translation.
Norwegian, 30 something, fit and healthy.
Had a stiff back (assumed to be bad sleeping posture), then follows over a few days a blocked nose, fuzzy head... but not a fever (once a high temp, but tested regularly and otherwise normal), and no prolonged cough.
Tested positive for Coronavirus.
Here in the UK we are being advised CV symptoms are fever / high temp and persistent cough.
I find it worrying that I (with many of the above symptoms but no fever, high temp or cough) may have infected my elderly neighbour. I now feel like sh*t and yet have, so far, done everything I should (and of course, may not have CV).

Arild er smittet av korona. Nå vil han at folk skal vite hvor subtile symptomene er

Arild Øren Wanvik fra Trondheim, bosatt i Bergen, fikk lørdag påvist koronavirus.

www.nettavisen.no

 

[Amarillo]

My parents, aunt and uncle on the Hurtigruten are now stranded off Tromso. After sailing from Bergen to Kirkenes the ship turned around heading back to Bergen. It was ordered into port at Tromso and my parents have not been allowed to disembark. They make no mention of the other passengers aboard - dad's not good with mobile devices, and mum even worse.

They are all enjoying the adventure.

My parents fly home from Oslo tomorrow, five days earlier than planned.

 

[WelshGas]

Apologies if this has already been posted. I don’t yet have an English translation.
Norwegian, 30 something, fit and healthy.
Had a stiff back (assumed to be bad sleeping posture), then follows over a few days a blocked nose, fuzzy head... but not a fever (once a high temp, but tested regularly and otherwise normal), and no prolonged cough.
Tested positive for Coronavirus.
Here in the UK we are being advised CV symptoms are fever / high temp and persistent cough.
I find it worrying that I (with many of the above symptoms but no fever, high temp or cough) may have infected my elderly neighbour. I now feel like sh*t and yet have, so far, done everything I should (and of course, may not have CV).

Arild er smittet av korona. Nå vil han at folk skal vite hvor subtile symptomene er

Arild Øren Wanvik fra Trondheim, bosatt i Bergen, fikk lørdag påvist koronavirus.

www.nettavisen.no

The symptoms can be all, some or none of the ones you quoted. It is thought that there could be in excess of 10,000 UK residents who are virtually asymptomatic . If the symptoms were so predictable in every case then life would be a little easier.

 

[WelshGas]

Apologies if this has already been posted. I don’t yet have an English translation.
Norwegian, 30 something, fit and healthy.
Had a stiff back (assumed to be bad sleeping posture), then follows over a few days a blocked nose, fuzzy head... but not a fever (once a high temp, but tested regularly and otherwise normal), and no prolonged cough.
Tested positive for Coronavirus.
Here in the UK we are being advised CV symptoms are fever / high temp and persistent cough.
I find it worrying that I (with many of the above symptoms but no fever, high temp or cough) may have infected my elderly neighbour. I now feel like sh*t and yet have, so far, done everything I should (and of course, may not have CV).

Arild er smittet av korona. Nå vil han at folk skal vite hvor subtile symptomene er

Arild Øren Wanvik fra Trondheim, bosatt i Bergen, fikk lørdag påvist koronavirus.

www.nettavisen.no

Translation.

Arild er smittet av korona. Nå vil han at folk skal vite hvor subtile symptomene er

Arild Øren Wanvik fra Trondheim, bosatt i Bergen, fikk lørdag påvist koronavirus.

translate.google.co.uk

 

[bigmac77]

‘Cramped in the nuts’ doesn’t sound good.

 

[Maskweech]

Apologies if this has already been posted. I don’t yet have an English translation.
Norwegian, 30 something, fit and healthy.
Had a stiff back (assumed to be bad sleeping posture), then follows over a few days a blocked nose, fuzzy head... but not a fever (once a high temp, but tested regularly and otherwise normal), and no prolonged cough.
Tested positive for Coronavirus.
Here in the UK we are being advised CV symptoms are fever / high temp and persistent cough.
I find it worrying that I (with many of the above symptoms but no fever, high temp or cough) may have infected my elderly neighbour. I now feel like sh*t and yet have, so far, done everything I should (and of course, may not have CV).

Arild er smittet av korona. Nå vil han at folk skal vite hvor subtile symptomene er

Arild Øren Wanvik fra Trondheim, bosatt i Bergen, fikk lørdag påvist koronavirus.

www.nettavisen.no

For all of you who crave unbiased logical fact-based information and eschew misplaced feelings of superiority and obsession with identity, please peruse the following: https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...-main_virus-simulator520pm:homepage/story-ans
From The Washington Post of today, March 14

 

[briwy]

Not quite sure where Corcubion is but it looks like you are two days behind everyone else. Today is the 16th.

 

[Maskweech]

Not quite sure where Corcubion is but it looks like you are two days behind everyone else. Today is the 16th.

The article was written on March 14 and published today.
So glad you are focusing on the important issues...

 

[briwy]

Yes I am well aware of that. Just trying to keep some sense of proportion among all the arguing that is going on.
Smiling apparently is good for you.

 

[Maskweech]

Yes I am well aware of that. Just trying to keep some sense of proportion among all the arguing that is going on.
Smiling apparently is good for you.

Why not comment on the substance of the article instead?

 

[Maskweech]

Those who smile in the face of death cheat only themselves.
Smiling is appropriate only after victory has been achieved.

 

[willwander]

 

[Maskweech]

Pyrrhus smiled.
Then he lost.
No one mourns him.

 

[Joker 1299]

Those who smile in the face of death cheat only themselves.
Smiling is appropriate only after victory has been achieved.

 

[GrannyJen]

Those who smile in the face of death cheat only themselves.
Smiling is appropriate only after victory has been achieved.

Alack poor Pyrrhus I knew him well.....

I'm smiling because I am away in Alfie in the middle of a field getting a few days away from everyone and everything and before the government imposes 12 weeks voluntary house arrest on me

 

[Maskweech]

Alack poor Pyrrhus I knew him well.....

I'm smiling because I am away in Alfie in the middle of a field getting a few days away from everyone and everything and before the government imposes 12 weeks voluntary house arrest on me

I appreciate your situation.
Making light of something as serious as this is dangerous, however, because it spurs others to do the same and ignore reality in favor of self-delusion.
The herd immunity "plan" is a recipe for disaster.
It all but ensures the collapse of your NHS. A contagion left to run rampant the way Covid-19 has demonstrated it can-and will-leads to catastrophic overburdening of the healthcare system, as has been demonstrated in Italy where doctors have had to choose to let older people die in favor of treating younger people. Not by choice, but by necessity driven by lack of resources.
For your sake, I hope your "government" comes to its senses, although I fear it's already too late.

 

[Maskweech]

I appreciate your situation.
Making light of something as serious as this is dangerous, however, because it spurs others to do the same and ignore reality in favor of self-delusion.
The herd immunity "plan" is a recipe for disaster.
It all but ensures the collapse of your NHS. A contagion left to run rampant the way Covid-19 has demonstrated it can-and will-leads to catastrophic overburdening of the healthcare system, as has been demonstrated in Italy where doctors have had to let older people die in favor of treating younger people. Not by choice, but by necessity driven by lack of resources.
For your sake, I hope your "government" comes to its senses, although I fear it's already too late.