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So are mosques open or closed, or is this open season for the far right ( or the hard of thinking as they are also known)
 
So are mosques open or closed, or is this open season for the far right ( or the hard of thinking as they are also known)
You don't have to get like that. It's a genuine concern if they are open. And it's attitudes like your right on left wing thinking is the reason no one dare question it.
 
Question religion all you like, it’s all mumbo jumbo, it’s attitudes I’m questioning, eg ‘ they’
If I saw 3 people in a park. I would call them the same. What are they doing? I don't get your point. Well I do your dying to say im racist or something. I too hate all religion. But one in particular seems to trigger all this abuse when you question it. If they aren't open I'm wrong. But I hear that ' they' are in leeds
 
Am I dying to say Racist, you seem to think I am , all I’m doing is repeating your words, if you meant nothing by them, fair enough, but considering your general attitude it might be wise to consider your words carefully in future, otherwise they could be misconstrued
 
Am I dying to say Racist, you seem to think I am , all I’m doing is repeating your words, if you meant nothing by them, fair enough, but considering your general attitude it might be wise to consider your words carefully in future, otherwise it could be misconstrued
I still don't get how the word 'they' regarding a bunch of people is misconstrued unless you purposely look for offence in it. Anyway you've ground me down. I was wrong. ' they' are all shut. I give in before the thread is closed. Where's joker when you need him
 
I asked a question ‘ are they all shut’ you implied they weren’t , please don’t try to take the moral high ground. You can’t !
 
Last weekend a photo of the A55 jam packed with cars, motor homes and caravans was widely circulated with the title tourist horde heads for north Wales to escape Coronavirus. People went nuts about it, except the photo was taken on good Friday last year.
 
Either way. They are gathering. Apparently

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To convince me that's not an archive photo, I'd need to see someone (not superimposed) reading today's newspaper. Unbelievable as you may find this, some people will use any excuse to stir up racial hatred.

Furthermore, His Holiness once again cautioned all members of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community to strictly follow the precautionary measures and instructions of the government and health authorities.
Amongst other measures, His Holiness said that the elderly and those suffering from illnesses should avoid leaving their homes as much as possible and Ahmadi Muslims should only pray in their local Mosques in smaller gatherings rather than the central Mosques where more people come into contact with one another.

 
Afraid to say the police in some (not all) parts of the country seem to be losing the plot a teeny bit. I read this in today's Sunday Times and had to check with myself it wasn't April 1st.


(It's pay-walled, so here's the first two paras:
"The enforcement of social distancing sank to new depths when Derbyshire police arrived at a beauty spot known as the Blue Lagoon and poured in dye to turn it black.
Alerted by reports that visitors were gathering in bright sunshine at the quarry pool in Buxton, police decided it should become the murky, dye-streaked black lagoon for the lockdown’s duration. “This type of gathering is in contravention of the current instruction of the UK government,” a police statement warned. “We used water dye to make the water look less appealing.” " )
 
The police are there to enforce the law, not make it up. Driving to exercise is lawful.

That is very simplistic. If that were the case we would be living in a completely different society.


Mike
 
That is very simplistic. If that were the case we would be living in a completely different society.

Some more or less sensible restrictions made lawfully.


I don’t understand the rationale behind closing public toilets, or why the Royal Parks have issued the lawful instruction that dogs must be kept on leads. But the restrictions all appear lawful. I’m particularly pleased that the instruction not to cycle in Richmond Park does not apply to under 12s, and I wish the government would apply this sensible exception to cycling on the footway.
 
My observation to you was about the role of the police. You appear to believe that there job is to just implement the law.

I’m not really interested in the rights of cycling in London Parks. Common sense I would have thought and not requiring laws.
I don’t particularly like unnecessary ones.


Mike
 
Afraid to say the police in some (not all) parts of the country seem to be losing the plot a teeny bit. I read this in today's Sunday Times and had to check with myself it wasn't April 1st.


(It's pay-walled, so here's the first two paras:
"The enforcement of social distancing sank to new depths when Derbyshire police arrived at a beauty spot known as the Blue Lagoon and poured in dye to turn it black.
Alerted by reports that visitors were gathering in bright sunshine at the quarry pool in Buxton, police decided it should become the murky, dye-streaked black lagoon for the lockdown’s duration. “This type of gathering is in contravention of the current instruction of the UK government,” a police statement warned. “We used water dye to make the water look less appealing.” " )
Been done before. It’s a water filled former quarry and also has toxic levels of some chemical compounds.
 
The police are there to enforce the law, not make it up. Driving to exercise is lawful.
Apparently not where I live. The Police have blocked the only access road to Butts Brow, Eastbourne with a ‘Police accident’ sign. So even local people have no access to exercise. And no there was no accident. Sign is still there today.
 
The police are there to enforce the law, not make it up. Driving to exercise is lawful.
Only if the journey wasn't necessary - can't see it being the case .... plus only were the time spent outside was minimised ... can't see it being the case either in most cases were the Police intervene - both these requirements are in the current guidelines... so the police are simply enforcing the guidelines .

Plus the Government is now talking about a tightening up of the rules if people don't stay at home and minimise unnecessary travel / time away from the home.

Here is the sort of nonsense that happens when people ignore the guidelines. Thankfully because of the guidelines and the police they are few and far between



The article in the Sunday Times is potentially very misleading or at least the headline and sentiment is (unfortunately I can't access the full article). Why because Dye is added to the stunning blue water every summer to deter swimmers, as the water has a pH almost as strong as bleach and the water can cause skin complaints. Around 750 local people, concerned about the health risks prior to Corona, signed a petition to have the quarry drained and closed off. However the water was deemed too toxic to drain, as it would risk contaminating local water supplies.

Maybe they should have left them to it !
 
Some more or less sensible restrictions made lawfully.


I’m particularly pleased that the instruction not to cycle in Richmond Park does not apply to under 12s, and I wish the government would apply this sensible exception to cycling on the footway.

I have police in my family (raising some eyebrows at some of the interpretation of the guidelines currently, but it is difficult for them)... they pointed me to this ministerial guidance on kids cycling on pavements, supported and circulated to forces by ACPO (Assoc. of Chief Police Officers):

“Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required.”

I can’t imagine any penalty being applied to a child (or accompanying adult) cycling considerately on a pavement; I would just do it.
 
Some more or less sensible restrictions made lawfully.


I don’t understand the rationale behind closing public toilets, or why the Royal Parks have issued the lawful instruction that dogs must be kept on leads. But the restrictions all appear lawful. I’m particularly pleased that the instruction not to cycle in Richmond Park does not apply to under 12s, and I wish the government would apply this sensible exception to cycling on the footway.
Public toilets are a breeding ground for germs for obvious reasons. Would you like to risk you life cleaning after god knows who has been in there doing their business but also coughed or spit in an enclosed space. Also a deterrent to anyone wanting to go out for a long time who may not have a large bladder.
 
Public toilets are a breeding ground for germs for obvious reasons. Would you like to risk you life cleaning after god knows who has been in there doing their business but also coughed or spit in an enclosed space. Also a deterrent to anyone wanting to go out for a long time who may not have a large bladder.
I second the bladder bit. It seems as I get older my bladder seems to get smaller I reckon roughly the size of a shrivelled up old walnut
 

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