California Surf Model

[Corradobrit]

Parking heater is standard on the surf option on both beach models

Thanks for the correction. Found the line item.

 

[Tomdbreeze]

16” wheels/brakes
Mirrors don’t fold
No digital cockpit
One sliding rear window not two
No privacy glass in rear
No ACC
No auto dimming mirror
No auto headlights
No auto wipers
No front fogs
No parking sensors
No heated washer nozzles
No side assist
No awning.

That lot must add up to more than £5k

It does have front and rear sensors. Your find those options are about £2-£3k for those bits to add on. from a spec point of view it’s higher spec than a coast was as standard.

 

[2into1]

If the wheels are as pictured on the California Chris video thumbnail, they look good... And will look better with some all terrain tyres if you want that look.

They're not. Back to 16" silver Claytons

 

[66tim99]

It does have front and rear sensors. Your find those options are about £2-£3k for those bits to add on. from a spec point of view it’s higher spec than a coast was as standard.

Thanks for correcting, amended my list to exclude park assist on Surf rather than parking sensors.
The 16”brake system must be a big chunk of that £2-3k?
I can understand a lot of the exclusions are electronic, but no awning? And there’s eg no price for digital dash… really only £3k for that lot?

 

[Tomdbreeze]

Thanks for correcting, amended my list to exclude park assist on Surf rather than parking sensors.
The 16”brake system must be a big chunk of that £2-3k?
I can understand a lot of the exclusions are electronic, but no awning? And there’s eg no price for digital dash… really only £3k for that lot?

So the way of making it have a 17” chassis and 17” brakes you would purely have to spec a set of 17” alloys to give you that, same as what use to happen with T6 Beach. So would cost you £1062 for the 17” woodstocks.

Trying to rack my brain back to coast and I’m sure digital cockpit upgrade was only about £362 some real obscure figure.

 

[66tim99]

So the way of making it have a 17” chassis and 17” brakes you would purely have to spec a set of 17” alloys to give you that, same as what use to happen with T6 Beach. So would cost you £1062 for the 17” woodstocks.

Trying to rack my brain back to coast and I’m sure digital cockpit upgrade was only about £362 some real obscure figure.

And then £635 for an awning and we’re over £2k already

 

[soulstyledevon]

Thanks for correcting, amended my list to exclude park assist on Surf rather than parking sensors.
The 16”brake system must be a big chunk of that £2-3k?
I can understand a lot of the exclusions are electronic, but no awning? And there’s eg no price for digital dash… really only £3k for that lot?

The less electronics aspect could be a bonus. Real clocks, over an ipad screen.
No acc, I’m guessing it comes with standard cruise. Again, i personally would prefer that…?

 

[Corradobrit]

The less electronics aspect could be a bonus. Real clocks, over an ipad screen.
No acc, I’m guessing it comes with standard cruise. Again, i personally would prefer that…?

Yes standard cruise but can be optioned with ACC.

 

[2haw]

I added up the Surf options that are standard on the Ocean and it came to around 6k.

17” Woodstock Wheels £1062
Sat Nav £948
Park Assist £366
Rear Cam £312
ACC £288
Fogs £456
Lights and Vision £330
Power Fold Mirrors £180
Awning £516
Fly Screens £126
Sliding Drivers Side Window £360
Privacy £402
Digital Dash £?

The Surf list price is 4.7k less than the Ocean so like the Beach, VW UK are charging more for less, if you get what I mean!

Edit:
All Prices added except Digital Dash so it’s probably just under 6k of options.

 

[larrylamb]

I know this might be a run out model but I can't understand why manual/electric roof has never been a tickable option on a Cali.
Anyway, it's a cut price Ocean missing a few goodies. Might appeal to those wanting less tech or those stretching the budget for an Ocean. It's another choice, which is a good thing.

 

[larrylamb]

The Surf list price is 4.7k less than the Ocean so like the Beach, VW UK are charging more for less, if you get what I mean!

Call me a cynic, sales technique to boost Ocean orders.

 

[2haw]

Trying to rack my brain back to coast and I’m sure digital cockpit upgrade was only about £362 some real obscure figure.

Digital Dash was £468 on old Coast brochure

 

[reserves]

For anyone caring about resale looks like the Surf like the Coast should be given a miss.

From my experience when buying 2nd hand more people will push the boat out for an Ocean, especially as you have to find a Coast with the options you want whereas the Ocean has most popular options as standard.

 

[chockswahay]

For anyone caring about resale looks like the Surf like the Coast should be given a miss.

From my experience when buying 2nd hand more people will push the boat out for an Ocean, especially as you have to find a Coast with the options you want whereas the Ocean has most popular options as standard.

Eh? Nah. When we bought our 20 month old Coast it was because it was a lot cheaper than an Ocean. It also came with 17“ wheels, parking sensors, ACC, heated seats, big screen Nav Pro, diesel heater, tow hook and a few other goodies. I think the only things we are missing is leccy roof and heated front screen.

Cant see the Surf coming any where near that

 

[soulstyledevon]

Eh? Nah. When we bought our 20 month old Coast it was because it was a lot cheaper than an Ocean. It also came with 17“ wheels, parking sensors, ACC, heated seats, big screen Nav Pro, diesel heater, tow hook and a few other goodies. I think the only things we are missing is leccy roof and heated front screen.

Cant see the Surf coming any where near that

The Coast seems like a better proposition…
Manual roof it’s big trump card.

 

[reserves]

Eh? Nah. When we bought our 20 month old Coast it was because it was a lot cheaper than an Ocean. It also came with 17“ wheels, parking sensors, ACC, heated seats, big screen Nav Pro, diesel heater, tow hook and a few other goodies. I think the only things we are missing is leccy roof and heated front screen.

Cant see the Surf coming any where near that

Haven’t you just proven the points I was making?

 

[The Merle]

The T6.1 is dead just a way of vw maximising profits on a model that has been stopped

 

[chockswahay]

Haven’t you just proven the points I was making?

Err, I probably have inadvertently. Perhaps what I should have said is that the Coast represents better value to start with (to the untrained eye it might as well be an Ocean) and even better value if well specced 2nd hand. From what I can tell (and we are all a bit short of detail here) the Surf is more of a day/weekend camper whereas the Coast and Ocean are more suited to longer trips away?

 

[andyinluton]

the Surf is more of a day/weekend camper whereas the Coast and Ocean are more suited to longer trips away?

I disagree with that bit, there's no difference in their camping ability at all.
In fact other than double glazing ( thats a £468 option) & possibly the front fogs, I am struggling to think of anything the surf has missing that a T5.1 SE or even a T6 Ocean had as standard.

Back in T5.1 days the awning, parking sensors, basic cruise control, bluetooth connection etc were all optional extras even on a SE

If you had never seen an Ocean you would think the Surf was a very highly specified Campervan.

 

[andyinluton]

Just checking the configurator -
It does have sliding windows both sides.
If you spec the tinted glass at £468 it gets you the double glazing as well.

 

[Syuile75]

It’s live on the configurator, glad I got my Coast when I did, this can only help used values


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[Syuile75]

No split colour option I can see, this was a must for us, factoring this cost in and all the various options to make it the same as our Coast we bought last year, this works out over £10k more than we paid….


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[Perfectos]

The thread has become a little like the bad old “mines better than yours” “It’s not a real camper” ”the Ocean is the only real camper” etc etc.

Choice in a range can never be bad Can it ?

if VW thought it would not sell they simply would not produce a new model Spec. Price point draws people in !

Much of the previous comment in this thread has be conjecture based on little fact, prejudice And poor press reporting, the same happened when the Beach was discontinued and then again when it was reinstated into the Cali range shortly after, presumably due to customer demand.
Only now the Configurator has gone live can the true spec be interrogated properly, allowing prospective customers to make an informed decision of their own choice as to what will suit them And the price point they are willing to consider vs options.

As far as parts bin run out Being used as a derogatory term:
Car manufacturers operate a very sophisticated planning system, one of the aims is to prevent over supply of parts & large stock issues at the factory, suggesting that it’s a parts bin run out would suggest that VW are sitting on vast warehouses of unused parts or open orders with suppliers for parts they didn’t know they had !
Remember that VW have closed the order book on Transporter vans, if they had excess parts issues they would run out parts on a wider line offering them as an incentive And in a shorter time !
VW would have known a long time ago they were going to stop T6.1 production & when, this would have been reflected in forward orders being scaled back, closing the Transporter order book suggests that parts are probably in short supply not over supply!
To suggest that this model is a “parts run out“ is simply a ludicrous statement If you know how vehicle manufacturers work.

Future parts supply would use up any in pipe parts, parts that are manufactured by third parts companies for years after production of a vehicle ceases And is a requirement to ensure future supply of parts availability.

I see Choice as a good thing, it seems many don’t and can’t accept that some people do not want a bog standard Ocean, regardless of the counter argument offered up by many.

 

[Tomdbreeze]

The thread has become a little like the bad old “mines better than yours” “It’s not a real camper” ”the Ocean is the only real camper” etc etc.

Choice in a range can never be bad Can it ?

if VW thought it would not sell they simply would not produce a new model Spec. Price point draws people in !

Much of the previous comment in this thread has be conjecture based on little fact, prejudice And poor press reporting, the same happened when the Beach was discontinued and then again when it was reinstated into the Cali range shortly after, presumably due to customer demand.
Only now the Configurator has gone live can the true spec be interrogated properly, allowing prospective customers to make an informed decision of their own choice as to what will suit them And the price point they are willing to consider vs options.

As far as parts bin run out Being used as a derogatory term:
Car manufacturers operate a very sophisticated planning system, one of the aims is to prevent over supply of parts & large stock issues at the factory, suggesting that it’s a parts bin run out would suggest that VW are sitting on vast warehouses of unused parts or open orders with suppliers for parts they didn’t know they had !
Remember that VW have closed the order book on Transporter vans, if they had excess parts issues they would run out parts on a wider line offering them as an incentive And in a shorter time !
VW would have known a long time ago they were going to stop T6.1 production & when, this would have been reflected in forward orders being scaled back, closing the Transporter order book suggests that parts are probably in short supply not over supply!
To suggest that this model is a “parts run out“ is simply a ludicrous statement If you know how vehicle manufacturers work.

Future parts supply would use up any in pipe parts, parts that are manufactured by third parts companies for years after production of a vehicle ceases And is a requirement to ensure future supply of parts availability.

I see Choice as a good thing, it seems many don’t and can’t accept that some people do not want a bog standard Ocean, regardless of the counter argument offered up by many.

Couldn’t agree more!

 

[chockswahay]

The thread has become a little like the bad old “mines better than yours” “It’s not a real camper” ”the Ocean is the only real camper” etc etc.

Choice in a range can never be bad Can it ?

if VW thought it would not sell they simply would not produce a new model Spec. Price point draws people in !

Much of the previous comment in this thread has be conjecture based on little fact, prejudice And poor press reporting, the same happened when the Beach was discontinued and then again when it was reinstated into the Cali range shortly after, presumably due to customer demand.
Only now the Configurator has gone live can the true spec be interrogated properly, allowing prospective customers to make an informed decision of their own choice as to what will suit them And the price point they are willing to consider vs options.

As far as parts bin run out Being used as a derogatory term:
Car manufacturers operate a very sophisticated planning system, one of the aims is to prevent over supply of parts & large stock issues at the factory, suggesting that it’s a parts bin run out would suggest that VW are sitting on vast warehouses of unused parts or open orders with suppliers for parts they didn’t know they had !
Remember that VW have closed the order book on Transporter vans, if they had excess parts issues they would run out parts on a wider line offering them as an incentive And in a shorter time !
VW would have known a long time ago they were going to stop T6.1 production & when, this would have been reflected in forward orders being scaled back, closing the Transporter order book suggests that parts are probably in short supply not over supply!
To suggest that this model is a “parts run out“ is simply a ludicrous statement If you know how vehicle manufacturers work.

Future parts supply would use up any in pipe parts, parts that are manufactured by third parts companies for years after production of a vehicle ceases And is a requirement to ensure future supply of parts availability.

I see Choice as a good thing, it seems many don’t and can’t accept that some people do not want a bog standard Ocean, regardless of the counter argument offered up by many.

You are right, I certainly hope I have not offended anyone and apologise for my poor choice of terminology. I was perhaps a little defensive about ‘my own van’. The beauty of a transporter van is that it can be whatever you want it to be, and that is the bigger deal.