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Cracked EGR Pipe

if6was9

if6was9

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Manchester
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T6 Beach 150
My 2016 Beach has done ~55k miles with full VW service history and has just failed its MOT due to a cracked EGR pipe.
The pipe had already been replaced under warranty in March 2020 at ~40k mile by the same dealer carrying out the MOT.

The dealer initially wanted to charge around £600 to replace the pipe, but when I pointed out that they had already replaced it, they agreed to goodwill, so I paid 50% of the parts, to which I agreed.

Once the new pipe had been fitted, I received a further call from the dealer to say that they'd established that there was actually a fault with the EGR unit, and it would be replaced free of charge.

I took the van today to have the EGR replaced, and after 2 hours, I received a call to say that actually, the EGR didn't need replacing, and the van was ready to collect.

Questions are if anybody would be so kind:
• Is there any way to determine when the redesigned pipe (PN: 04L131521BH) was made available by VW?
• Should I be concerned that the van has had two pipe replacements?
• Is there any way to determine whether the EGR unit is in good shape so I can establish whether the dealer is fobbing me off or not?

Any advice/experience would be appreciated.
 
B J G

B J G

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Stamford
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T6 Ocean 204 4Motion
Expensive pipe fitting by VW quoted as available for £125 on a DIY basis.

Faulty pipes usually split and cause exhaust fume smell.

Looks like this if not sure

 
CALI FATE

CALI FATE

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Cheltenham
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T6 Beach 150
Hi - i can report a cracked EGR pipe too - thought id pop up a pic as its something thats quite easy to spot - on a 150 Beach - the pipe is at the front of the engine linking the exhaust to the EGR. If it is cracked there will be black soot near the damaged pipe. I have been getting exhaust smells in the cabin and traced the fault via T6 forums / online research to the EGR pipe. Four bolts looks a straightforward fix IMG_830CA03E2235-1.jpeg
 
Perfectos

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T6 Beach 150
Here is a previous thread showing the old and new EGR pipe and the “flushing process“ carried out to clean the EGR system

mine was replaced by the AA at the roadside.(August 2020)

VW supplied the AA with the new pipes and equipment to carry out the upgrade of the EGR pipe and flush the EGR, due to the amount of issue VW were experiencing with EGR pipe / engine management light / fault codes (old design EGR).
I.E VW gave the equipment and updated EGR pipe to the AA so they didn’t have to recover vehicles to a VW dealer at additional cost to VW (which probably indicates how common the problem is )

have a look at this thread it shows the old gummed up EGR pipe which has two holes in the end of the pipe which block up and the new design (slotted) which resolves the issue. ( it was raining when the work was carried out hence the water droplets in the photos)
post #4 onwards


edit: the process of changing the pipe and flushing the EGR took approx 1 hour start to finish (150ps engine)

Edit: my dealer told me one customer has had the EGR flushed six times to date (from new)
I don’t know if the dealer has fitted the new (redesigned) pipe or not
 
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PIERPO

PIERPO

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Merseyside
Vehicle
T6 Ocean 204 4Motion
Here is a previous thread showing the old and new EGR pipe and the “flushing process“ carried out to clean the EGR system

mine was replaced by the AA at the roadside.(August 2020)

VW supplied the AA with the new pipes and equipment to carry out the upgrade of the EGR pipe and flush the EGR, due to the amount of issue VW were experiencing with EGR pipe / engine management light / fault codes (old design EGR).
I.E VW gave the equipment and updated EGR pipe to the AA so they didn’t have to recover vehicles to a VW dealer at additional cost to VW (which probably indicates how common the problem is )

have a look at this thread it shows the old gummed up EGR pipe which has two holes in the end of the pipe which block up and the new design (slotted) which resolves the issue. ( it was raining when the work was carried out hence the water droplets in the photos)
post #4 onwards


edit: the process of changing the pipe and flushing the EGR took approx 1 hour start to finish (150ps engine)

Edit: my dealer told me one customer has had the EGR flushed six times to date (from new)
I don’t know if the dealer has fitted the new (redesigned) pipe or not
Van went into Liverpool vw for mot and service they found Egr pipe split and changed it free of charge as under warranty on looking at paperwork apparently it would of cost me £809:48 had it not been under warranty
 
Perfectos

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Van went into Liverpool vw for mot and service they found Egr pipe split and changed it free of charge as under warranty on looking at paperwork apparently it would of cost me £809:48 had it not been under warranty
Surely that is a new EGR valve and pipe for that cost ?
 
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vbk1975

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UK
Vehicle
T6 Ocean 204 4Motion
We have just had the rear EGR pipe fail on our 2017 Ocean, it has been replaced by the VW dealer with the latest part.

It was covered under extended warranty, the paperwork suggested this would have been £342.28 (not sure if this include VAT) had we had to pay for it. The parts 4 bolts, 2 gaskets and the pipe are ~£180-200 (I don’t know if the quote included new bolts but I think they have been changed as part of the swap to the later part)

We have a 4Motion DSG and there is an extra cooler next to the pipe which make access interesting, so the price might be cheaper for a non DSG if it takes less time.
 
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