Fitting OEM Underslung Spare Wheel GC680

[G-A-R-Y]

I have found the parts via MAN dealership and the difference in price

VW 7C0803660BF SPARE WHEEL BRACKET AND CABLE £166.80 (MAN 65424030048 £123.60)

VW 7C0805350F REBOUND STRAP £68.88 (MAN 65424400006 £48.60)

VW 7 X N0195308 M8X25 FLANGED HEX BOLTS (MAN 65900500002 £16.04)

VW 1 X N10714101 M10 X 25 FLANGED HEX BOLT (MAN 65904050136 £1.92)

Quite a bit cheaper, so handy to know for other stuff as well...

You'll need a jack and the tools to work it, you'll also need a wheel brace "T" bar and the adapter tool to allow lowering.

 

[DonGraham]

You'll need a jack and the tools to work it, you'll also need a wheel brace "T" bar and the adapter tool to allow lowering.

Yes, the VW part numbers for those are all in an earlier post. I didn't get them from MAN as I already had them..

 

[DonGraham]

You can get 205/75-16 with 116 load rating though - which is what I have
Continental van tyre

Hi Andrew, looked it up and found it!

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m91b0s518p208752/Continental_Tyres_Van_Continental_Conti_Van_Contact_Eco_205_75_R16_C_116_114R_%28113_111R%29_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_A_Wet_Grip%3A_A_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_72dB

 

[andyinluton]

Poor design by VW

At a guess 99% of new cars don’t have space for a full size spare.
Crafter can take a full size steel spare of the size fitted to commercial versions - the only thing stopping an alloy fitting is the hole in the centre of the alloy hub isn’t big enough for the support bracket to pass through. The emergency restraint strap would also make a mess of the face of the alloy.

So if you are fully laden on a trip, you then have to carry the dirty punctured alloy inside the van until you get the puncture fixed / tyre replaced?

Yes exactly the same as 99% of new cars & any transporter fitted with bling wheels.

 

[andyinluton]

A same size steel wheel with matching tyre would do.

VW don't do a 17" steel wheel for the crafter.

 

[WelshGas]

VW don't do a 17" steel wheel for the crafter.

Informative. So you are obliged to use a 16” wheel + tyre if you specify 17” Alloys and wish to carry a spare.?

 

[andyinluton]

Informative. So you are obliged to use a 16” wheel + tyre if you specify 17” Alloys and wish to carry a spare.?

I'll save you the effort of checking the configurator......

 

[WelshGas]

I'll save you the effort of checking the configurator......View attachment 121773

Why would I want to check the configurator? Never, ever going to own a GC or equivalent.

 

[andyinluton]

Why would I want to check the configurator? Never, ever going to own a GC or equivalent.

Probably for the same reason that anyone that has never owned and has no intention of owning a GC would read and comment on 3 pages of posts about fitting a spare wheel to one.

 

[WelshGas]

Probably for the same reason that anyone that has never owned and has no intention of owning a GC would read and comment on 3 pages of posts about fitting a spare wheel to one.

No different to fitting/carrying a spare on a Transporter based California that has 18/19/20” wheels. Same problem.

 

[Mr T]

Just find it strange that VW didn't design the crafter to carry a matching ‘normal’ wheel size to those fitted on the axles. Imagine most will spec a grandcali with alloys.

Up until recently you could only have 17” alloys on a Grand in the UK, no choice, now there is an option to save money (and weight) and spec 16” steel wheels instead.
Very few owners spec a spare from factory I would think due to additional weight. Certainly true on a GC600 + 3.5t anyway.

 

[andyinluton]

Up until recently you could only have 17” alloys on a Grand in the UK, no choice,

Apart from if you bought an early one, the first batch all came on steels & you couldn't have alloys.

 

[andyinluton]

Up until recently you could only have 17” alloys on a Grand in the UK, no choice, now there is an option to save money (and weight) and spec 16” steel wheels instead.

Thats a good point - the steels actually weigh less than the alloys!

 

[Mr T]

Apart from if you bought an early one, the first batch all came on steels & you couldn't have alloys.

Yes of course, the first few did only come with steelies for a short period of time.

 

[G-A-R-Y]

Does anyone know or can show me where the safety cable mounts, it has a 10mm flanged bolt. I think it goes on the left somewhere.

 

[AndrewCook680]

Does anyone know or can show me where the safety cable mounts, it has a 10mm flanged bolt. I think it goes on the left somewhere.

 

[AndrewCook680]

Does anyone know or can show me where the safety cable mounts, it has a 10mm flanged bolt. I think it goes on the left somewhere.

@G-A-R-Y yes on left side - posted a photo

 

[rod_vw]

FREE

Steel wheels if you don't mind scabby steel ones, see https://www.facebook.com/groups/2017CrafterTGE/permalink/3606806232913375

Nothing to do with me except that I saw the advert.

 

[AndrewCook680]

Swapped my spare wheel (1050kg) rated wheel for a 1200kg rated one this afternoon in my garage

 

[Mr T]

Swapped my spare wheel (1050kg) rated wheel for a 1200kg rated one this afternoon in my garage

View attachment 121985

Nice. Is there a load rating clearly stamped on the steel wheel?

 

[AndrewCook680]

Nice. Is there a load rating clearly stamped on the steel wheel?

Yes nice and clear

 

[Mr T]

Yes nice and clear

Good, thanks.

 

[pinomarmo1958]

HI dont know what a 4 bolt tow bar is . But just collected our grand 600 with fixed tow bar an spare wheel. Cant see the spare so must be back a bit.

I’m contemplating adding a spare wheel to my GC680. Not wishing to go for the off road look I’m planning to do more or less OEM.

Question 1, Does anyone know if this will be a problem as my van has the factory fitted VW tow bar with the 4 bolt towball.

Question 2, I have also found items described as “Spare Wheel Cover” 7C0825213A (Left) 7C0825214A (Right). Does anyone know if this is required?
The previous post on here which contained a list of parts fitted by the VW dealer never mentioned these items. Anyone with an underslung spare wheel fitted could you have a look to see if there are any plastic cover parts beneath or around the spare wheel? Thanks!

For the spare wheel, to keep the same rolling dimension as the 235/60R17 alloys, tyre size should be 205/75R16 on the 2N0601027L/J wheel. I have just ordered a delivery miles new for £59.95 from e-bay. I believe wheel 2N0601027L is rated 1000kg, 2N0601027J is rated 1200Kg. There are still 2 more available on e-bay as I type.

I have obtained the list below from a previous post, and 0% discount price from TPS:

7C0803660BF SPARE WHEEL BRACKET AND CABLE £166.80

7C0012163B WHEEL WRENCH BAR EXTENSION (TO RELEASE SPARE WHEEL) £12.50

7C0012218 WHEEL WRENCH £26.20

2N0601027L SPARE STEEL WHEEL £140 (£59.95 EBAY) (Search: "Vw Crafter/MAN TGE 16” Steel Wheel Silver 5x120 2N0601027J *Delivery Miles*")

7C0805350F REBOUND STRAP £68.88

7 X N0195308 M8X25 FLANGED HEX BOLTS (I THINK MIGHT BE INCLUDED WITH SPARE WHEEL BRACKET AND CABLE, SO PERHAPS NOT REQUIRED AS A SEPERATE ITEM)

1 X N10714101 M10 X 25 FLANGED HEX BOLT

205/75R16 C TYPE VAN LOAD TYRE

2N0011031E JACK - SEARCH EBAY "Crafter-Sprinter Bottle Jack VW Crafter SC SZ SX Bottle Jack 3500KG Genuine Red" NEW £79.90 (Still available)

 

[DonGraham]

Hi, most normal non removeable tow bars have a towball fitted with 2 large nuts and bolts. The VW towball has 4 smaller nuts and bolts. This unfortuately prevents fitting some two bolt bike racks to the towbar.
The spare wheel is under the rear of the van, and should be clearly visible simply by looking under the rear bumper towards the front of the van...
See here for more info:

 

[DonGraham]

UPDATE TO MAN PARTS - See below:

I have found the parts via MAN dealership and the difference in price

VW 7C0803660BF SPARE WHEEL BRACKET AND CABLE £166.80 (MAN 65424030048 £123.60)

UPDATE This MAN part number is NOT correct! There are 2 x part numbers that cross reference with the VW Part number, so it must be the "other one". They do not like giving part numbers out! The difference is the bracket that goes through the hole in the wheel centre is too big. I ended up going back to TPS and getting the VW part. Other parts fit fine....

VW 7C0805350F REBOUND STRAP £68.88 (MAN 65424400006 £48.60)

VW 7 X N0195308 M8X25 FLANGED HEX BOLTS (MAN 65900500002 £16.04)

VW 1 X N10714101 M10 X 25 FLANGED HEX BOLT (MAN 65904050136 £1.92)