Perhaps counterintuitive, but these covers work adversely. The gas needs warmth from the surroundings to vaporise. If you insulate the bottle too heavily with a cover, it will cool off inside its cover when used and less and less gas will vaporise. Here speaks experience.
There is also these Gaslow refillables. They also make a 2.7KG one that is supposed to be a direct replacement for the 907 cylinder - they mention VW T5 campers in their blurb.
This looks very good, especially with the contents gauge and the 80% overfill safety gauge! That would mean that in principle you would be allowed in many countries to fill it at an lpg station, although we have read that more and more countries don't allow the filling of separate bottles at station anymore.
Ours was delivered with a 33mb regulator, said to be able to serve both butane and propane... A continental thing?
Hi thanks for this old thread. I have a question ...you say you need to fit a new valve...is this easy to find and change ? thanksWe have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.
We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):
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We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.
You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php
Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!
The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment.
Oupss..another question...do you use the cali Regulator (Propane 907) and fix this to the valve supplied with the ALUmini bottle?We have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.
We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):
View attachment 28304
We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.
You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php
Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!
The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment
Hi Im off to Varanger in April and looking at ordering this bottle for Propane...is the - with gas cylinder valve (incl. Safety valve) all you need to change ? is that correct? ThanksWe have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.
We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):
View attachment 28304
We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.
You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php
Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!
The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment
I ordered an Alumini bottle, but what valve should I get to fit it?We have written about it before (see e.g this thread): indeed butane (Campingaz) stops vaporising around 4 degrees Celsius. That's why they don't sell Campingaz in Scandinavia.
We do a lot of winter camping, and we have got ourselves one of those ALUmini refillable propane bottles, they fit the gas compartment in the Cali, and you do not need to change anything to the setup, regulator, etc. You just need a different valve (seeing that propane has a higher pressure at comparable temperatures than butane; around 30 degrees Celsius the pressure is much higher than what the Campingaz bottle and valve are designed for! Never put propane in a butane bottle!):
View attachment 28304
We also have a set of filling adapters, because the filling stations in different countries such as Italy, Germany or Norway use different attachments.
You can order these ALUmini refillable bottles, together with a valve and adapter set, online in Germany on eBay or at several on line shops, e.g. here: http://www.gas-shop-24.de/gasflasche/alugasflasche2kg.php
Careful: there is also a 2.7 kg variant of the ALUmini, but that is too big for the Cali's gas compartment!
The bottle is € 109, a filling about € 6, so if you refill 4 times instead of changing your Campingaz 907 at on average € 30 a time, you have recovered your investment
E.g. a GOK valve with a propane safety (higher pressure possible) and a EU thread.
is your watertank filled ? It serves as a buffer around the gaz bottle. The water has to freeze before the gaz bottle does. never had frozen gas even at -5Celsius.3 times last week, No gas to make a cuppa first thing in the morning. Temp overnight below freezing. We were snug under the duvet. Is lagging the gaz pipesand bottle the answer? Shook the bottle and it sounded liquid inside. after 30 minutes with the heating on everything worked ok. Anyone got a solution?
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